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Updated Sunrise Summary Table + Homework Reminder
by Ariel Liang April 17, 2019

April 17, 2019

Dear Sunrise Sub Team members, This is a reminder for the homework due on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC. To facilitate your completion of homework and the discussions during the meeting, staff have now included an updated Sunrise Summary Table (draft as of 16 April 2019), which has been reviewed by the Sub Team Co-Chairs. This updated Summary Table will be used during the meeting. What’s New: Compared to the 8 March version Summary Table, this update version has included the tentative answers to agreed charter questions, preliminary recommendations, and summaries of Sub Team review of the individual proposals so far. The new content has been developed based on staff’s encapsulation of the Sub Team discussions. Where We Stand on Preliminary Recommendations: So far, the Sunrise Sub Team has developed draft preliminary recommendations for Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, and Q7. The discussions of Q2 and Q7 are likely completed; the discussions of Q1, Q3, and Q4 are not completed due to the review of individual proposals. The Sunrise Sub Team needs to finish reviewing Proposal #10 (related to Q3) and Proposal #11 (related to Q4) in order to conclude the discussions of Q3 and Q4. Then the Sunrise Sub Team needs to revisit the preliminary recommendations for Q1 when reviewing Proposal #9. What to Focus on Now: When reading the updated Sunrise Summary Table, the Sub Team should focus on reviewing the items that are bolded and colored in green. These items are expected to be covered during the upcoming meeting. * Sunrise Q1: p.8 * Sunrise Q2: pp.12-13 * Sunrise Q3: pp.15-18 * Sunrise Q4: pp.20-22 * Sunrise Q7: pp.32-33 Next Steps: Staff will let the Sub Team know how to provide input to the draft preliminary recommendations. As a heads-up, a discussion thread for each agreed charter question, which includes its relevant individual proposal(s), will be launched gradually to facilitate review/feedback. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel From: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 2:30 PM To: "gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org> Subject: [HOMEWORK] Due Wed 17 April 18:00 UTC Dear Sunrise Sub Team members, By the beginning of the Sunrise Sub Team meeting on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC, the Sub Team is tasked to complete: 1. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 3, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #10; 2. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 4, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #11; 3. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 1, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #9; 4. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 5(a). Resources NOTE: Staff have been informed that there are temporary tech issues with the community wiki, so please use the attachments for now. Summary Table (draft as of 08 March 2019): It contains all Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions, as well as the reference to and summary of all data gathered to assist answering these questions. Regarding the most updated version that contains the draft preliminary recommendations that staff have already encapsulated, Sub Team Co-Chairs will discuss with staff about the best approach and timing to circulate them to facilitate the Sub Team’s review. We will keep the Sub Team posted. * Question 1: pp.8-11 * Question 3: pp.13-15 * Question 4: pp.15-18 * Question 5(a): pp.18-20 Relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions, multiple individual proposals were submitted. Initial staff analysis concluded the following Individual Proposals are more relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions being reviewed by the Sub Team in the homework assignment: * Individual Proposal #9 (Q1) * Individual Proposal #10 (Q3) * Individual Proposal #11 (Q4) Intended Scope of Work for the Upcoming Meeting According to the current workplan, during the Sunrise Sub Team meeting on Wednesday, 17 April, the Sub Team is expected to have completed the preliminary recommendations for Questions 3 and 4, as well as the review of Individual Proposals #10 and #11. If the Sub Team progresses faster than expected and if time permits, the Sub Team can also proceed with developing preliminary recommendations for Questions 1 and 5(a), as well as the review of Individual Proposal #9. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel

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Update - Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG Sunrise Sub Team - 17 April 2019
by Julie Hedlund April 16, 2019

April 16, 2019

Dear All, Please see the agenda below and the attached documents for the meeting on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC. Note the update that because the meeting will be run in Zoom, rather than Adobe Connect, we have included a brief introduction to Zoom on the agenda. 1. Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs) 2. Zoom Introduction 3. Development of Preliminary Recommendations: * Continue discussion of agreed Sunrise Charter Question 3 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #10 (see attached PDF) * Continue discussion of agreed Sunrise Charter Question 4 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #11 (see attached PDF) * Discuss agreed Sunrise Charter Question 1 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #9 (see attached PDF) * Discussion agreed Sunrise Charter Question 5(a) (see attached summary table) 4. AOB Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG Sunrise Sub Team - 17 April 2019
by Julie Hedlund April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear All, Please see the agenda below and the attached documents for the meeting on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC. 1. Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs) * Continue discussion of agreed Sunrise Charter Question 3 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #10 (see attached PDF) * Continue discussion of agreed Sunrise Charter Question 4 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #11 (see attached PDF) * Discuss agreed Sunrise Charter Question 1 (see attached summary table), in conjunction with Individual Proposal #9 (see attached PDF) * Discussion agreed Sunrise Charter Question 5(a) (see attached summary table) 2. AOB Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Actions & Notes: RPM Sunrise Sub Team Meeting 10 April 1800 UTC
by Julie Hedlund April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear All, Please see below the action items and notes captured by staff from the RPM Sunrise Sub Team meeting held on 10 April 2019 (18:00-19:00 UTC). Staff will post them to the wiki space. Please note that these are high-level notes and are not meant as a substitute for the recording, chat room, or transcript. The recording, AC chat, transcript and attendance records are posted on the wiki. Best Regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director == NOTES & ACTION ITEMS Actions: 1. Staff, as a continuation of the action item from the 03 April call, will continue to compile into the summary table draft language for preliminary recommendations as suggested in the Sub Team discussions. Staff will initiate email threads on charter questions under discussion and associated draft preliminary recommendations for Sub Team members to review and discuss. 2. Sub Team members: Complete the homework (see separate [HOMEWORK] email with PDFs) in preparation for the next meeting on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC: * Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 3, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #10; * Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 4, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #11; * Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 1, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #9; * Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 5(a). Notes: 1. Updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs): No updates provided. 2. Development of Preliminary Recommendations: Overview: -- Focus attention on the work between now and mid-May (6 meetings). -- Supplement what we are doing on the calls with work on the list. -- Thinking of creating email threads per charter question. -- Staff is encapsulating potential preliminary recommendation language to share with the sub team for review. -- Only forwarding to the WG the proposals that have broad support. -- Consider moving to 90-minute meetings. a. Discuss individual proposals relating to question 3 (see individual proposals at: https://community.icann.org/x/R6EWBg) -- #10 -- Seems like this could be an outlier behavior. -- Where you have generic words or non-fanciful/famous marks that is one case; fanciful/famous marks is another case. -- Registry operators usually have a basis /case for why they are placing a premium pricing or reserve on a name -- usually to protect the TM holder. -- We do have the issue of pricing, which is out of scope. -- Might consider an informal approach, such as a best practice. -- Registries cannot look into the TMCH for any name; they need to be able to verify against the TMCH list for necessary circumstance. -- Maxim Alzoba: 1. As I understand the 'not fair' point happens where Sunrise has differentiated pricing (and not just - any word = same price), but this can be used only as a good practice suggestion (outside of picket fence) -- Maxim Alzoba: 2. TMCH subscribers need to be verified by TLDs, in case of this hypothetical procedure (currently Registries are prohibited from looking into TMCH) -- Maxim Alzoba: 3. the hypothetical process (if we go there) should have safeguards from not very good actors (like parties lost URDP too often), and parties registering TMs on basis of how word is good in the dictionary , (I am not talking about good TM owners, who protect their business and ventures) -- Helpful to get input from Compliance. But they can enforce only what is in the contract, around the contract, and policies. b. Begin discussion of preliminary recommendations and individual proposals for question 4 -- #11 Individual Proposal #11: -- On picket fence and pricing: there can be pricing provisions in the registry agreement. -- Seems that this would be a highly subjective process to come up with a formal system for how to adjudicate these. -- What about a general policy recommendation that pricing policies should not circumvent other policies (e.g., RPMs)? -- Registry Agreement Spec 1 is one approach, PICs are another. -- Doesn't seem a big a risk for the PIC process to be abused. -- TMCH has been abused.

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Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Proposal to Extend Sunrise Sub Team Meetings to 90 minutes as of 17 April
by Julie Hedlund April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear all, Further to the message below, as we’ve heard no objections and there was general agreement on the call yesterday, we will proceed to schedule the next call for 90 minutes. Best, Julie From: Gnso-rpm-sunrise <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:21 PM To: "gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Proposal to Extend Sunrise Sub Team Meetings to 90 minutes as of 17 April Dear all, Per the discussion on our call today, the Sub Team Co-Chairs and support staff have suggested extending the calls, beginning with the call on 17 April at 18:00 UTC, to 90 minutes to help in expediting the work. If there is general agreement the invite to the next call will be sent out with the new call duration. Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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[HOMEWORK] Due Wed 17 April 18:00 UTC
by Ariel Liang April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear Sunrise Sub Team members, By the beginning of the Sunrise Sub Team meeting on Wednesday, 17 April at 18:00 UTC, the Sub Team is tasked to complete: 1. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 3, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #10; 2. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 4, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #11; 3. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 1, in conjunction with Individual Proposal #9; 4. Reviewing Agreed Sunrise Charter Question 5(a). Resources NOTE: Staff have been informed that there are temporary tech issues with the community wiki, so please use the attachments for now. Summary Table (draft as of 08 March 2019): It contains all Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions, as well as the reference to and summary of all data gathered to assist answering these questions. Regarding the most updated version that contains the draft preliminary recommendations that staff have already encapsulated, Sub Team Co-Chairs will discuss with staff about the best approach and timing to circulate them to facilitate the Sub Team’s review. We will keep the Sub Team posted. * Question 1: pp.8-11 * Question 3: pp.13-15 * Question 4: pp.15-18 * Question 5(a): pp.18-20 Relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions, multiple individual proposals were submitted. Initial staff analysis concluded the following Individual Proposals are more relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions being reviewed by the Sub Team in the homework assignment: * Individual Proposal #9 (Q1) * Individual Proposal #10 (Q3) * Individual Proposal #11 (Q4) Intended Scope of Work for the Upcoming Meeting According to the current workplan, during the Sunrise Sub Team meeting on Wednesday, 17 April, the Sub Team is expected to have completed the preliminary recommendations for Questions 3 and 4, as well as the review of Individual Proposals #10 and #11. If the Sub Team progresses faster than expected and if time permits, the Sub Team can also proceed with developing preliminary recommendations for Questions 1 and 5(a), as well as the review of Individual Proposal #9. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel

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Recordings, attendance & AC chat / Review of all Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sunrise Data Review Sub Team call on Wednesday, 10 April 2019 at 18:00 UTC
by Andrea Glandon April 10, 2019

April 10, 2019

Dear all, Please find the attendance and AC Chat attached to this email, and the MP3 & AC recording below for the Review of all Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sunrise Data Review Sub Team call held Wednesday, 10 April 2019 at 18:00 UTC. Attendance and recording of the call is also posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/qhtIBg MP3: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/audio/audio-rpm-revi… AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p53yyrsnwiz/<https://participate.icann.org/p53yyrsnwiz/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=df70939b158ea81e…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar/2019 [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Main wiki page for the working group: https://community.icann.org/x/KhGsAw Thank you. Kind Regards, Andrea

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Proposal to Extend Sunrise Sub Team Meetings to 90 minutes as of 17 April
by Julie Hedlund April 10, 2019

April 10, 2019

Dear all, Per the discussion on our call today, the Sub Team Co-Chairs and support staff have suggested extending the calls, beginning with the call on 17 April at 18:00 UTC, to 90 minutes to help in expediting the work. If there is general agreement the invite to the next call will be sent out with the new call duration. Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Reminder - Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG Sunrise Sub Team - 10 April 2019
by Julie Hedlund April 10, 2019

April 10, 2019

Dear All, Please see the agenda below and the attached summary table for the meeting on Wednesday, 10 April at 18:00 UTC. Here is a proposed Draft Agenda below. 1. Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs) 2. Development of Preliminary Recommendations: * Discuss individual proposals relating to question 3 (see individual proposals at: https://community.icann.org/x/R6EWBg) -- #10 * Begin discussion of preliminary recommendations and individual proposals for question 4 -- #11 3. AOB NOTE: If any Sub Team member knows they will miss the 10 April meeting could they please consider emailing any suggested preliminary recommendations to the Sub Team list. Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG Sunrise Sub Team - 10 April 2019
by Julie Hedlund April 4, 2019

April 4, 2019

Dear All, Please see the agenda below and the attached summary table for the meeting on Wednesday, 10 April at 18:00 UTC. Here is a proposed Draft Agenda below. 1. Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs) 2. Development of Preliminary Recommendations: * Discuss individual proposals relating to question 3 (see individual proposals at: https://community.icann.org/x/R6EWBg) -- #7, #10, #11 * Begin discussion of preliminary recommendations and individual proposals for question 4 -- #7 and #11 3. AOB NOTE: If any Sub Team member knows they will miss the 03 April meeting could they please consider emailing any suggested preliminary recommendations to the Sub Team list. Please note also the homework from the last meeting: 1. Sub Team members should review the questions, beginning with Question 4 (see attached summary table) and suggest preliminary recommendations. 2. Sub Team members should review individual proposals: See https://community.icann.org/x/R6EWBg (top half of the table on the wiki page includes the Sunrise related individual proposals) 3. Staff will draft language for preliminary recommendations for which proposals have been discussed (1, 2, 3, and 7) Thank you very much. Best, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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