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Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight Nov. 20, 2013

Nov. 20, 2013

Chicken and egg, as Rubens explained .. -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ________________________________________ From: Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer(a)nic.at] Sent: 20 November 2013 15:34 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Rubens Kuhl Cc: gtld-tech(a)icann.org Subject: AW: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... The Registry Agreement is quite clear on this, though: "Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web based Directory Service at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query based access to at least the following elements in the following format." Strictly speaking, it hence looks like running the WHOIS service under a different hostname would constitute a violation of the Registry agreement? Alex > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Michele Neylon - Blacknight [mailto:michele@blacknight.com] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 16:28 > An: Alexander Mayrhofer; Rubens Kuhl > Cc: gtld-tech(a)icann.org > Betreff: RE: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... > > They aren't obliged to use nic.tld afaik - the whois server is specified in their > respective IANA entry > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > Blacknight Solutions > Hosting & Colocation, Domains > http://www.blacknight.co/ > http://blog.blacknight.com/ > http://www.technology.ie > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > Locall: 1850 929 929 > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon > ------------------------------- > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > ________________________________________ > From: gtld-tech-bounces(a)icann.org [gtld-tech-bounces(a)icann.org] on > behalf of Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer(a)nic.at] > Sent: 20 November 2013 15:25 > To: Rubens Kuhl > Cc: gtld-tech(a)icann.org > Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... > > I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and > reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My > understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under > that hostname... See the respective specification in the AGB.. > > Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand > correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than > the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm > this? > > Alex > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk@nic.br] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02 > > An: Alexander Mayrhofer > > Cc: gtld-tech(a)icann.org > > Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... > > > > > > Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at > > http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ? > > > > > > Rubens > > > > On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer > > <alexander.mayrhofer(a)nic.at> wrote: > > > > > > > > Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very > > > surprised > > to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs > > (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service > > degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA > > requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA actually > > "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured right now by > ICANN ... > > > > > > Any information about this? > > > > > > Alex > > >

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Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight Nov. 20, 2013

Nov. 20, 2013

Any I've tested had functioning whois - do you have any examples of broken ones? -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Domains http://www.blacknight.co/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ________________________________________ From: gtld-tech-bounces(a)icann.org [gtld-tech-bounces(a)icann.org] on behalf of Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer(a)nic.at] Sent: 20 November 2013 13:53 To: gtld-tech(a)icann.org Subject: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs... Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very surprised to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA actually "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured right now by ICANN ... Any information about this? Alex

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Agenda for TechDay Buenos Aires
by Dr Eberhard W Lisse Nov. 17, 2013

Nov. 17, 2013

Please find enclosed the agenda for TechDay Buenos Aires. Can all the speakers who have not done so please forward their final presentations as PDF without animations or transition effects to Kristina Nordstrom at kristina.nordstrom(a)icann.org before 17:00 today local time so she can load them into the Adobe Connect software for the remote participants. greetings, el

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TMCH SMD Application Priorities
by Mike O'Connell Nov. 12, 2013

Nov. 12, 2013

All, I know this might be more of a policy than a technical issue but I had some questions around application priorities. We're going to be ranking applications based on a few different factors in the following priorities. Regional Trade Marks, Regional Court Orders, Treaties or Statutes Other Trade Marks Other Court Orders Regional Unregistered Marks Other Unregistered Marks Where 'regional' is the region for which the gTLD is intended to service. The technical part comes from the SMD and the TreatyOrStatute section, specifically the 'protection' element. There exist certain 'global' treaties or statutes, how will these be represented in the SMD? Will SMDs for 'champagne' or 'bordeaux' have a protection 'cc' entry for all countries of the world. I would like to, ideally, split the 'Treaties or Statues' on 'Regional' and 'Other' but I'm not sure about the 'global' treaty and statute's protection. Apologies if this is slightly off topic for the gtld-tech list, I couldn't really place the query between tmch-tech and gtld-tech. Sincerely, -- Mike

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Bar BoF at IETF 88, anyone?
by Alexander Mayrhofer Nov. 8, 2013

Nov. 8, 2013

Hi, Is anybody interesting in a bar BoF / lunch around (technical) new gTLD topics? Please respond in PM with possible date/time, and i'd arrange something. Alex

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