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Re: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 14 July 2016
by Feher, Kal Aug. 10, 2016

Aug. 10, 2016

I've attached the revised recommendation 6 for section 2.4. During the last meeting, I think a few of us felt that this recommendation was an awkward fit for 'Section 2.4 Consistency'. This recommendation, if followed, will improve a user's understanding of the language table and how it is implemented in the registry and DNS. So it is more about education than collaboration/consistency. While I think the recommendation has merit and should remain in the guidelines in some form, it should probably be in a section related to user acceptance or Registrant interaction with IDN based registries. Kal Feher Neustar Inc. / Enterprise Architect Level 8, 10 Queens Road, Melbourne, Australia VIC 3004 Office +61 3 9866 3710 / kal.feher(a)neustar.biz<mailto:kal.feher@neustar.biz> / www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/> Follow Neustar: [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture.png] Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/neustarinc> [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture%20(1)(1).png] LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/5349> [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture%20(2).png] Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/neustarinc> ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Sunday, 24 July 2016 at 21:14 To: "idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 14 July 2016 Dear All, Wael also attended this meeting. The updated version of the meeting notes has been uploaded at the wiki page. Regards, Sarmad From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 1:59 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org> Subject: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 14 July 2016 Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 14 July 2016. Please let me know in case of any edits or suggestions. We have the following action items: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Staff to share when RFC on LGRs is published and update document appropriately SH 2 Suggest updated text for current Recommendation 6 in section 2.4 KF 3 Break Recommendation 9 in section 2.4 into multiple recommendations covering the various ideas discussed, including Reference 2nd Level LGRs, more general IDN policy and collaboration in other aspects of IDNs in the future SH for first-cut 4 Review the table with text on IDN Variants and come with suggestion for recommendation(s) for next meeting ALL The attached notes and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Next meeting will be on 28 July, 11am UTC. Regards, Sarmad

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Re: [Idngwg] IDNGWG Meeting - Alternate Thursdays 11am UTC
by Edmon Chung July 29, 2016

July 29, 2016

my late apologies, am at the APrIGF meetings in Taipei. Edmon -----Original Appointment----- From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016 17:53 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org Cc: Ram Mohan Subject: IDNGWG Meeting - Alternate Thursdays 11am UTC When: Thursday, 28 July 2016 16:00-17:00 (UTC+05:00) Islamabad, Karachi. Where: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-4 57-1414 Participant Passcode: 1064158692 << File: Untitled attachment 00604.txt >>

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IDNGWG Meeting - Alternate Thursdays 11am UTC
by Sarmad Hussain July 28, 2016

July 28, 2016

Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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meeting notes from 14 July 2016
by Sarmad Hussain July 24, 2016

July 24, 2016

Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 14 July 2016. Please let me know in case of any edits or suggestions. We have the following action items: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Staff to share when RFC on LGRs is published and update document appropriately SH 2 Suggest updated text for current Recommendation 6 in section 2.4 KF 3 Break Recommendation 9 in section 2.4 into multiple recommendations covering the various ideas discussed, including Reference 2nd Level LGRs, more general IDN policy and collaboration in other aspects of IDNs in the future SH for first-cut 4 Review the table with text on IDN Variants and come with suggestion for recommendation(s) for next meeting ALL The attached notes and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Next meeting will be on 28 July, 11am UTC. Regards, Sarmad

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Table on variants
by Mats Dufberg July 14, 2016

July 14, 2016

I am not sure how to reformat the table on variants. Here are some thoughts. Definition: A name (name1) is said to be variant of another name (name2) if the IDN table in question has rules that allows for the direct derivation of name1 from name2. The consequence is that variant relations are IDN table dependent, and what are variants for one TLD might not be it for another. Requirement: If name1 is a variant of name2, then name2 must be a variant of name1. If name1 and name2 are variants, and name2 and name3 are variants, then name1 and name3 must be variants. Type of variant: · Blocked, i.e. cannot be registered or allocated by anybody. · Allocatable, i.e. can be registered or allocated according to TLD specific regulation. Definitions: · Activated – A variant is activated if that name is assigned to the same registrant in the same registration is the primary registration, i.e. the registrant has been assigned the right of that name. Activation does not require being active in DNS. · Registred – A variant is registered if that name is assigned to some registrant as an independent registration. -- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/<http://www.iis.se/en> From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday 13 July 2016 10:03 To: idngwg <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 30 June and updated document Dear All, A gentle reminder that all of us should review the text on IDN variants proposed by Edmon for discussion during the call tomorrow. Please feel free to share any feedback over the email as well. Regards, Sarmad From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:41 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org Subject: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 30 June and updated document Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 30 June 2016. The updated Guidelines document based on the decisions in the meeting is also attached. Please let me know if there are any edits or additions needed. The meeting had the following action items: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Staff to find out when RFC for Label Generation Rules may be released SH 2 Suggest updated text for current recommendation 6 in section 2.4 to be more specific JZ 3 Review current recommendation 9 in section 2.4 to see how it may be clarified and focused ALL 4 Review the table with text on IDN Variants and come with suggestion for recommendation(s) for next meeting ALL The attached notes and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Next meeting will be on 14 July, 11am UTC. Regards, Sarmad

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-- Recommendation 9
by Mats Dufberg July 14, 2016

July 14, 2016

//recommendation 9: TLD registries should collaborate on issues of shared interest, for example, by forming a consortium to coordinate contact with external communities, elicit the assistance of support groups, and establish global fora. The document we are creating should contain IDN Guidelines to make the use and implementation of IDN as robust as possible, correct? Recommendation 9 does not even mention IDN. As it written I see no purpose of it. What does the Guidelines want to achieve by enforcing the TLD registries to "collaborate on issues on shared interest"? Shared interest could be anything far beyond IDN. Currently it is under section "Consistency of IDN tables". -- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/<http://www.iis.se/en> From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday 13 July 2016 10:03 To: idngwg <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 30 June and updated document Dear All, A gentle reminder that all of us should review the text on IDN variants proposed by Edmon for discussion during the call tomorrow. Please feel free to share any feedback over the email as well. Regards, Sarmad From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:41 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org Subject: [Idngwg] meeting notes from 30 June and updated document Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 30 June 2016. The updated Guidelines document based on the decisions in the meeting is also attached. Please let me know if there are any edits or additions needed. The meeting had the following action items: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Staff to find out when RFC for Label Generation Rules may be released SH 2 Suggest updated text for current recommendation 6 in section 2.4 to be more specific JZ 3 Review current recommendation 9 in section 2.4 to see how it may be clarified and focused ALL 4 Review the table with text on IDN Variants and come with suggestion for recommendation(s) for next meeting ALL The attached notes and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Next meeting will be on 14 July, 11am UTC. Regards, Sarmad

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meeting notes from 30 June and updated document
by Sarmad Hussain July 14, 2016

July 14, 2016

Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 30 June 2016. The updated Guidelines document based on the decisions in the meeting is also attached. Please let me know if there are any edits or additions needed. The meeting had the following action items: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Staff to find out when RFC for Label Generation Rules may be released SH 2 Suggest updated text for current recommendation 6 in section 2.4 to be more specific JZ 3 Review current recommendation 9 in section 2.4 to see how it may be clarified and focused ALL 4 Review the table with text on IDN Variants and come with suggestion for recommendation(s) for next meeting ALL The attached notes and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Next meeting will be on 14 July, 11am UTC. Regards, Sarmad

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IDNGWG Meeting - Alternate Thursdays 11am UTC
by Sarmad Hussain July 13, 2016

July 13, 2016

Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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