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Summary of meeting on 26 Jan. 2017
by Sarmad Hussain Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Dear All, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the WG on 26 Jan. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions. The meeting has the following AIs: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Draft the additional fourth part of the recommendation by splitting the first recommendation on comingling cross-script code points on addressing similarity cases EC 2 >From 20170119 - Update recommendation on grandfathering current registrations based on the discussion KF The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday 2 Feb. 2017 11am UTC. We will continue following a weekly meeting schedule. The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines[commun ity.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di splay_IDN_IDN-26-2343-3BImplementation-26-2343-3BGuidelines&d=DgMGaQ&c=FmY1u 3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm- mxd028M4&m=iHyLVWg5XYYYMyRqhLrWLRT-0Iuh0o5-T_cl8G4x7nY&s=_HPo9va0P1o27gRKByc MzrAZTgn8xXAy86zJg9CEjjI&e=> . Regards, Sarmad

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IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017
by Sarmad Hussain Jan. 26, 2017

Jan. 26, 2017

How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Summary of meeting on 19 Jan. 2017
by Sarmad Hussain Jan. 25, 2017

Jan. 25, 2017

Dear All, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the WG on 19 Jan. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions. The meeting has the following AIs: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update recommendation on grandfathering current registrations based on the discussion KF 2 Check for the difference between the definition of "activated" and "delegated" SH The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday 26 Jan. 2017 11am UTC. We will continue following a weekly meeting schedule. The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines[commun ity.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di splay_IDN_IDN-26-2343-3BImplementation-26-2343-3BGuidelines&d=DgMGaQ&c=FmY1u 3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=KTETvEaGPwPcawI-QmNa-kiv-ZBvdgyyLm- mxd028M4&m=iHyLVWg5XYYYMyRqhLrWLRT-0Iuh0o5-T_cl8G4x7nY&s=_HPo9va0P1o27gRKByc MzrAZTgn8xXAy86zJg9CEjjI&e=> . Regards, Sarmad

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Meeting tomorrow
by Sarmad Hussain Jan. 18, 2017

Jan. 18, 2017

Dear All Revisions by Dennis have been incorporated in the attached document (section 2.7) for discussion during our meeting tomorrow. Regards, Sarmad From: Jian Chuan Zhang [mailto:jczhang@knet.cn] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:47 AM To: edmon(a)registry.asia; Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se>; idngwg(a)icann.org; Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: Re: [Idngwg] Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week Jan 19 works for me. Thanks. Jian From: Edmon Chung <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> Date: 2017-01-12 02:15 To: 'Mats Dufberg' <mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se> ; 'idngwg' <mailto:idngwg@icann.org> ; 'Sarmad Hussain' <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Idngwg] Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week Got it. Jan 19 is clear for me. Talk to all then. Edmon > -----Original Message----- > From: Mats Dufberg [mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se] > Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:56 PM > To: idngwg <idngwg(a)icann.org <mailto:idngwg@icann.org> >; Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> >; > edmon(a)registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> > Subject: FW: Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week > > IDNGWG friends, > > Sarmad will be travelling during the meeting time tomorrow. I have got something at > work that makes it hard for me to be in time. I am not sure if Edmon will be able to > attend the meeting. > > Therefore, we will cancel the meeting tomorrow 2017-01-12. Next meeting will be > 2017-01-19. > > I am sorry for late information. > > > > Yours, > Mats > > --- > Mats Dufberg > DNS Specialist, IIS > Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 > https://www.iis.se/en/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> > > Date: Monday 9 January 2017 at 14:16 > To: "edmon(a)registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> " <edmon(a)registry.asia <mailto:edmon@registry.asia> >, Mats Dufberg > <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se <mailto:mats.dufberg@iis.se> > > Subject: Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week > > Hi Mats and Edmon, > > I will be travelling this Thursday. Though I will be able to open the bridge and start > the conference, I may not be able to participate. Therefore, I am requesting if one of > you could manage the meeting. Else we may have to cancel this week. Please let > me know. > > Regards > Sarmad _______________________________________________ Idngwg mailing list Idngwg(a)icann.org <mailto:Idngwg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idngwg

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FW: Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week
by Mats Dufberg Jan. 12, 2017

Jan. 12, 2017

IDNGWG friends, Sarmad will be travelling during the meeting time tomorrow. I have got something at work that makes it hard for me to be in time. I am not sure if Edmon will be able to attend the meeting. Therefore, we will cancel the meeting tomorrow 2017-01-12. Next meeting will be 2017-01-19. I am sorry for late information. Yours, Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/ -----Original Message----- From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Monday 9 January 2017 at 14:16 To: "edmon(a)registry.asia" <edmon(a)registry.asia>, Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se> Subject: Conducting IDN Guidelines WG meeting this week Hi Mats and Edmon, I will be travelling this Thursday. Though I will be able to open the bridge and start the conference, I may not be able to participate. Therefore, I am requesting if one of you could manage the meeting. Else we may have to cancel this week. Please let me know. Regards Sarmad

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Re: [Idngwg] Summary of meeting and AIs from 20170105
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Jan. 11, 2017

Jan. 11, 2017

Please find revised document for Action Item #1. Do read the comment boxes as they provide additional information about rationale. Of course, we need to discuss as a group and get others to weigh in. -Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, January 6, 2017 at 8:04 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Summary of meeting and AIs from 20170105 Dear All, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the WG on 5 Jan. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions. The meeting has the following AIs: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the recommendation on harmonization of LGRs/IDN tables for the registries as per the discussion DT 2 Pending from 20161222 - Re-write the recommendation on automatic activation based on the current input for further discussion EC 3 Pending from 20161222 - Recommendation on grandfathering current registrations should be updated per the current discussion KF The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday 12 Jan. 2017 11am UTC. We will continue following a weekly meeting schedule. The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Regards, Sarmad

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Canceled: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017
by Sarmad Hussain Jan. 11, 2017

Jan. 11, 2017

How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Summary of meeting and AIs from 20170105
by Sarmad Hussain Jan. 6, 2017

Jan. 6, 2017

Dear All, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the WG on 5 Jan. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions. The meeting has the following AIs: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the recommendation on harmonization of LGRs/IDN tables for the registries as per the discussion DT 2 Pending from 20161222 - Re-write the recommendation on automatic activation based on the current input for further discussion EC 3 Pending from 20161222 - Recommendation on grandfathering current registrations should be updated per the current discussion KF The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday 12 Jan. 2017 11am UTC. We will continue following a weekly meeting schedule. The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Regards, Sarmad

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"will" versus "must" or "should"
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Jan. 5, 2017

Jan. 5, 2017

Following up our brief discussion earlier today on this subject. Food for thought about the use of the word “will” instead of “must” or “should” in previous version of the guidelines. The term “will” was the preferred word in version 2.2. as well. Here is an excerpt about the subject: “The IDN Guidelines have no direct conformance implications with respect to the IDN standards that they reference. The term "will" is not to be read as it would be in a formal normative instrument. Although the IDN Guidelines apply directly to the gTLD registries, they are intended to be suitable for implementation in other registries on all levels. Any areas in the present wording that lack clarity will be corrected in the successor Best Current Practices document.” Since these are guidelines (i.e. recommendations or advice) to registries and registrars of all sorts, the choice of word was perhaps intentional so that it doesn’t alienate parties that are not bound to them like gTLDs are. ccTLDs and third-level registries may find the terms “must” or “should” too strong and thus they may dismiss the guidelines altogether. I know we discussed incorporating the use of MUST, SHOULD or MAY per RFC 2119. Maybe we want to revisit this. My two cents. Dennis

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Re: [Idngwg] Summary of meeting and AIs from 22 Dec.
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Jan. 5, 2017

Jan. 5, 2017

Please find attached proposed recommendations per action item 4 below. This document has three sections. I thought it would be useful to see all three sections in a holistic way since all three address the same topic (i.e. confusables) 1. Commingling of cross-script code points in a single label – This is from version 3, recommendation 5. 2. Harmonization of variant rules across same-script IDN tables – This is new 3. Cross-script or whole-script homoglyph labels – This is new. The document has a couple of comments to explain context. I look forward to our meeting tomorrow. -Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 at 8:19 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Summary of meeting and AIs from 22 Dec. Dear All, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the WG on 22 Dec. Please let me know if there are any changes or suggestions. The meeting has the following AIs: S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Re-write the recommendation on automatic activation based on the current input for further discussion EC 2 Recommendation on grandfathering current registrations should be updated per the current discussion KF 3 Update recommendation 5 from version 3.0 to include in the current version, to address the discussion on mingling scripts and removing the last sentence MD 4 Update the recommendation on harmonization of LGRs/IDN tables for the registries, addressing the two use cases identified DT The next meeting is schedule for 5 Jan. 2017 11am UTC. We will continue following a weekly meeting schedule from next year. The attached notes of the meeting and the recording of the meeting are available at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Hope you all have a great holiday season. Regards, Sarmad

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