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Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 24, 2017

March 24, 2017

Sarmad, The traceability matrix looks fine to me. A couple of observations from my review: 1. We didn’t review appendices A and B from v3. I think we should spend some time discussing whether a revised version or removal is warranted, or nothing at all. Of course, if we do include additional information into the draft this would mean another public comment period. 2. In recommendation 13 we refer to a lot of documents and we probably want to be very specific as to which sections of those documents are relevant to the guidelines. I believe we need to be very specific in references since this document is binding for gTLDS. I’m ok with resuming the calls next week at 10:00 am UTC but if you want to do a doddle poll, that’s fine with me as well. Thanks, Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Dear All, I wanted to follow up with all of you on this thread. Kindly review the attached document and let me know if you have any feedback. We should finalize it to allow to respond to the query below. I would suggest that we post the final version of this document on our wiki page so that we can point others to the same document. Please also advise when you would like to continue our fortnightly meetings (now? After public comments?). Should we use the same time (in UTC) or change is following the daylight savings time changes in some countries. Regards Sarmad From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Wednesday, 8 March, 2017 5:46 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org Subject: [Idngwg] FW: [Ext] Re: FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Thanks Dennis. All, Please find attached a first cut for a traceability matrix. Please feel free to suggest if we want a different approach or if there are any suggestions on the content. Should we include it as an appendix to the next draft we produce or share separately? Also, please review the contents and let me know if you agree with the analysis or have any suggested changes. Regards, Sarmad From: Tan Tanaka, Dennis [mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com] Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 7:47 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>; idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline My preference is option #2. -Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:32 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Dear IDNGWG members Kindly see the enquiry below. We have not created a redline comparison with previous version, as there are significant new additions in the revised version. There are at least three options: 1. We create a redline version and release it 2. Create a traceability matrix with summary of which guidelines were retained, changed, dropped or added in the next version 3. State that the version is significantly different and thus such an analysis is not been performed (not preferred) I will proceed as you suggest, and respond to Yasmin accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: Omer, Yasmin Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 4:22 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Subject: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Hi Sarmad, Is there a redline of the new IDN Implementation Guidelines against the previous version? Thanks, Yasmin

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Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline
by Sarmad Hussain March 21, 2017

March 21, 2017

Dear All, I wanted to follow up with all of you on this thread. Kindly review the attached document and let me know if you have any feedback. We should finalize it to allow to respond to the query below. I would suggest that we post the final version of this document on our wiki page so that we can point others to the same document. Please also advise when you would like to continue our fortnightly meetings (now? After public comments?). Should we use the same time (in UTC) or change is following the daylight savings time changes in some countries. Regards Sarmad From: idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Wednesday, 8 March, 2017 5:46 PM To: idngwg(a)icann.org Subject: [Idngwg] FW: [Ext] Re: FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Thanks Dennis. All, Please find attached a first cut for a traceability matrix. Please feel free to suggest if we want a different approach or if there are any suggestions on the content. Should we include it as an appendix to the next draft we produce or share separately? Also, please review the contents and let me know if you agree with the analysis or have any suggested changes. Regards, Sarmad From: Tan Tanaka, Dennis [mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com] Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 7:47 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>; idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline My preference is option #2. -Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:32 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Dear IDNGWG members Kindly see the enquiry below. We have not created a redline comparison with previous version, as there are significant new additions in the revised version. There are at least three options: 1. We create a redline version and release it 2. Create a traceability matrix with summary of which guidelines were retained, changed, dropped or added in the next version 3. State that the version is significantly different and thus such an analysis is not been performed (not preferred) I will proceed as you suggest, and respond to Yasmin accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: Omer, Yasmin Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 4:22 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Subject: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Hi Sarmad, Is there a redline of the new IDN Implementation Guidelines against the previous version? Thanks, Yasmin

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New draft
by Mats Dufberg March 12, 2017

March 12, 2017

I think the following draft is relevant for our work: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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Fwd: [At-Large] [IDN-WG] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Implementation Guidelines
by Satish Babu March 10, 2017

March 10, 2017

Here is a comment from the At-Large list. satish ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jefsey <jefsey(a)jefsey.com> Date: Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [At-Large] [IDN-WG] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) Implementation Guidelines To: Satish Babu <sb(a)inapp.com>, At-Large Worldwide < at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: At-Large IDN WG <idn-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> At 16:10 06/03/2017, Satish Babu wrote: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Dear all, > > Please refer to the following mail announcing the release for public > comments of the IDN Implementation Guidelines 4.0. The document is > available for public comments until 17 April 2017. > > On behalf of the At-Large IDN WG, I'd like to request all At-Large > community members who are associated with local language computing--and > particularly, those working in the areas of IDNs and Universal > Acceptance--to examine the document and provide their comments. > > > With kind regards, > Would you have the proposed document in an ASCII RFC comparable format. Thx JFCM http://xlib.re satish > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Date: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:27 PM > Subject: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Internationalized Domain Name > (IDN) Implementation Guidelines > To: "alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < > alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.xn--orgy]]\tmk[\x[tm-8pb3c5erikf0fta10woa067guk9sra3ab > idn-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Dear All, > > > > This is to let you know that the Public Comment on the 'Internationalized > Domain Name (IDN) Implementation Guidelines' has now gone live: > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/idn-guidelines-2017-03-03-en. > > > > Public comment will end on 17 April 2017 23:59 UTC. During this period, > anyone can submit comment via comments-idn-guidelines-03mar17(a)icann.org. > > > > > > > As an advisory committee of ICANN, the ALAC submits Statements on Public > Comment and advises on policy matters related to the interest of Internet > users worldwide. Not just limited to the 15 ALAC members, members from the > wider At-Large community are welcome to draft a Statement on behalf of the > ALAC. > > > > If you are interested in drafting an ALAC Statement on this Public Comment, > kindly contact staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. At-Large Staff will follow up and > help you understand the procedure. > > > > Additionally, the wiki workspace for developing a potential ALAC Statement > is here https://community.icann.org/x/lLLRAw. All pertinent resources for > this public comment can also be found there. > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie > Peregrine, Terri Agnew, YeÅŸim Nazlar and Evin > Erda'ÙB‚'PÐS"ˆÛXÞHÝY™ˆ[ˆÝ\port of the At-Large Community > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > Website: atlarge.icann.org > > Facebook: facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge > >atlarge > <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> > > Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLargePÐS" ]\™ÙB > Î‹ËÝÚ]\‹€com/ICANNAtLarge> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC-Announce mailing list > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > IDN-WG mailing list > IDN-WG(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg > > IDN WG Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+IDN+Pol > icy > _______________________________________________ At-Large mailing list At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 8, 2017

March 8, 2017

My preference is option #2. -Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 12:32 AM To: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Dear IDNGWG members Kindly see the enquiry below. We have not created a redline comparison with previous version, as there are significant new additions in the revised version. There are at least three options: 1. We create a redline version and release it 2. Create a traceability matrix with summary of which guidelines were retained, changed, dropped or added in the next version 3. State that the version is significantly different and thus such an analysis is not been performed (not preferred) I will proceed as you suggest, and respond to Yasmin accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: Omer, Yasmin Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 4:22 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Subject: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Hi Sarmad, Is there a redline of the new IDN Implementation Guidelines against the previous version? Thanks, Yasmin

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FW: IDN Program Update @ ICANN 58
by Sarmad Hussain March 7, 2017

March 7, 2017

IDN Program Update 1. IDN Program - Overview and Progress - 15 mins 2. Update by Integration Panel - 10 mins 3. Update on IDN Implementation Guideline - 7 mins 4. Community Updates a. Cyrillic GP Update - 7 mins b. Ethiopic GP Update - 7 mins c. Greek GP Update - 7 mins d. Latin GP Update - 7 mins 5. Q/A Session details: https://schedule.icann.org/event/9nqW/idn-program-update Wednesday March 15, 2017 3:15pm - 4:45pm (local time in Copenhagen) Hall B4.1<https://schedule.icann.org/venue/Hall+B4.1>

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FW: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline
by Sarmad Hussain March 7, 2017

March 7, 2017

Dear IDNGWG members Kindly see the enquiry below. We have not created a redline comparison with previous version, as there are significant new additions in the revised version. There are at least three options: 1. We create a redline version and release it 2. Create a traceability matrix with summary of which guidelines were retained, changed, dropped or added in the next version 3. State that the version is significantly different and thus such an analysis is not been performed (not preferred) I will proceed as you suggest, and respond to Yasmin accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: Omer, Yasmin Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 4:22 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Subject: IDN Implementation Guidelines Redline Hi Sarmad, Is there a redline of the new IDN Implementation Guidelines against the previous version? Thanks, Yasmin

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Re: [Idngwg] IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 6, 2017

March 6, 2017

Thanks for confirming, Sarmad. Best, Dennis From: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:52 PM To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Cc: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017 Dear Dennis, We had not planned for a meeting this week, as we have a session during ICANN 58. I have sent a cancellation. Regards, Sarmad From: Tan Tanaka, Dennis [mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com] Sent: Tuesday, 7 March, 2017 12:44 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>; idngwg(a)icann.org Subject: [Ext] Re: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017 Are we meeting this Thursday 3/9? I think we don’t need to but I want to make sure before I commit this time to something else. Thank you, Dennis From: sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> When: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM March 9, 2017 Subject: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017 Location: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.myrcplus.com_cnums…> Participant Passcode: 1064158692 _______________________________________________ Idngwg mailing list Idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:Idngwg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idngwg

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Re: [Idngwg] IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 6, 2017

March 6, 2017

Are we meeting this Thursday 3/9? I think we don’t need to but I want to make sure before I commit this time to something else. Thank you, Dennis From: sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org When: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM March 9, 2017 Subject: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017 Location: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692 _______________________________________________ Idngwg mailing list Idngwg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idngwg

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Canceled: IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC - 5Jan-9Mar 2017
by Sarmad Hussain March 6, 2017

March 6, 2017

Meeting this week on 9 March will not be held. Next meeting is during ICANN 58 on Sunday 12 March, 9am local time in Denmark. Regards, Sarmad How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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