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Re: [Idngwg] Request for discussion on public comment feedback on IDN Guidelines
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Aug. 16, 2017

Aug. 16, 2017

Hi Sarmad, I was reviewing my email and I wasn’t sure whether we received feedback from SSAC on this, have we? Thanks, Dennis From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:04 AM To: "steve.sheng(a)icann.org" <steve.sheng(a)icann.org> Cc: "idngwg(a)icann.org" <idngwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Request for discussion on public comment feedback on IDN Guidelines Hi Steve, As discussed, please forward the following message to SSAC on behalf of IDN Guidelines Working Group (IDNGWG), which is working on revising the IDN Guidelines. Regards, Sarmad ========= Dear SSAC colleagues, You may know that a revised draft of IDN Implementation Guidelines recently underwent a Public Comment<https://www.icann.org/public-comments/idn-guidelines-2017-03-03-en>. In a comment<http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-idn-guidelines-03mar17/2017-March/00…> submitted by Hugo Salgado from NIC Chile (.CL), it has been suggested to clarify the difference between “the use of IDN labels inside a TLD zone for records that are not-authoritative, like NS names and glue records." It further suggests that “a TLD can pose rules and restrictions for labels in the second (or third) level, but not downside and ‘sibling-side’. So my TLD can restrict a certain unicode point for registration purposes, but it could exist inside the TLD zone as an NS name in a level below the TLD as a glue record, and can exist at another TLD as a delegation, over which we don't have any jurisdiction.” “As an example, if I'm the registry of .example TLD and we don't allow U+00E1 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE, we can't prohibit a record like: allowed.example. IN NS á.allowed.example á.allowed.example. IN A 192.0.2.1 and certainly we can't prohibit a delegation to other TLD: allowed.example. IN NS á.cl” The IDN Guidelines Working Group (IDNGWG) has found the comment significant. IDNGWG would like to get SSAC’s opinion on whether records which are “not-authoritative” should also be constrained to comply with IDNA2008 by the IDN Guidelines. If SSAC considers this relevant, IDNGWG would request for assistance from SSAC to suggest appropriate language for such a guideline. We would like to invite relevant SSAC members for a discussion with IDNGWG during one of its weekly calls, held on Thursdays at 11am UTC. IDNGWG can organize a call on a different day/time if suggested schedule is not suitable for SSAC. We look forward to your confirmation. Regards, IDN Guidelines WG ========

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IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC -18 May onwards till the Guidelines are finalized
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 15, 2017

Aug. 15, 2017

Dear All, A gentle reminder. We did not get sufficient members last week to hold the call. You are requested to kindly confirm for this week. Regards, Sarmad IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Re: [Idngwg] Summary of IDNGWG meeting on 3 August 2017
by Feher, Kal Aug. 10, 2017

Aug. 10, 2017

Please see revised section 2.1.5. It is much shorter and hopefully clearer. The only clear obligation is to publish updated registration policies. I'm not aware of any objections to that particular requirement. Note that the auto numbering in the doc has experienced a critical failure and the updated section now has "1." in front of it. I've also left a comment for what was section 2.1.5.e (now auto-numbered: 'b'). Since this section refers to IDNA2008 transition specifically, I think it should be added to 2.1.3. Kal Feher Neustar Inc. / Enterprise Architect Level 8, 10 Queens Road, Melbourne, Australia VIC 3004 Office +61 3 9866 3710 / kal.feher(a)neustar.biz<mailto:kal.feher@neustar.biz> / www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/> Follow Neustar: [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture.png] Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/neustarinc> [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture%20(1)(1).png] LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/5349> [http://neunet.neustar.biz/sites/default/files/295/New%20Picture%20(2).png] Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/neustarinc> ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this e-mail message in error and any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. From: <idngwg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 06:30 To: "idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>" <idngwg(a)icann.org<mailto:idngwg@icann.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Idngwg] Summary of IDNGWG meeting on 3 August 2017 Dear IDNGWG members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the IDNGWG held on 3 August 2017. Please let me know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Shrink Recommendation 5 without changing the contents KF 2 Revise the text for Recommendation 7 with a placeholder of number of months for transition, applicable to part (a) SH 3 Redraft the sentence on references in Recommendation 11 as discussed EC The recording and this summary are also posted at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>. Regards, Sarmad

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Summary of IDNGWG meeting on 3 August 2017
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 9, 2017

Aug. 9, 2017

Dear IDNGWG members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of the IDNGWG held on 3 August 2017. Please let me know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Shrink Recommendation 5 without changing the contents KF 2 Revise the text for Recommendation 7 with a placeholder of number of months for transition, applicable to part (a) SH 3 Redraft the sentence on references in Recommendation 11 as discussed EC The recording and this summary are also posted at the IDNGWG wiki page at https://community.icann.org/display/IDN/IDN+Implementation+Guidelines. Regards, Sarmad

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IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC -18 May onwards till the Guidelines are finalized
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 9, 2017

Aug. 9, 2017

A gentle reminder for our call on 10 August, UTC 11am. Regards, Sarmad IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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Meeting Thursday Aug 3
by Mats Dufberg Aug. 1, 2017

Aug. 1, 2017

I am sorry, I will not able to participate in our meeting on Thursday. I will not be able to participate in the meeting next Thursday (Aug 10) either. I will be on travel both days. Yours, Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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IDN Guidelines WG meeting - weekly on Thursdays 11am UTC -18 May onwards till the Guidelines are finalized
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 1, 2017

Aug. 1, 2017

Hi All, A gentle reminder. We have not been able to hold a call on last two weeks as we do not get sufficient members on the call. Kindly confirm your attendance for this week. Regards, Sarmad IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 1064158692

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