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Re: [Internal-cg] Charter commenting - ALAC Comments ( Updated Charter Draft )
by Joe Alhadeff Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

Mohamed: If the content is correct (taking into account Milton's concern), but its written in a less efficient way than possible, is redrafting an efficient use of our time? We have lots of other outstanding issues like what consensus means that I would rather focus on... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: mbashir(a)mbash.net To: mueller(a)syr.edu Cc: internal-cg(a)icann.org Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 3:05:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Charter commenting - ALAC Comments ( Updated Charter Draft ) Milton, ALAC review of the current charter draft concluded that the document need to be shorten and redrafted while at the same time maintain the main principles/objectives of the document . your comments regarding releation to ICANN accountability enhancement work is noted, i will wait for further comments from ICG regarding this approach. Regards, Mohamed On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Milton L Mueller < mueller(a)syr.edu > wrote: Mohamed This is not an updated charter it is a completely re-written charter. As such, it moves us backwards, not forwards. I also note that it lacks the critical language about the ICG’s relationship to the other enhanced accountability process and thus is non-negotiably unacceptable to my stakeholder group and, I suspect, to all the other DNS-based representatives. I would encourage ALAC to start with the draft that we worked on and provide commentary on those parts that it feels are inadequate, unclear or missing. --MM From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org ] On Behalf Of Mohamed El Bashir Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 6:36 AM Cc: ICG Subject: [Internal-cg] Charter commenting - ALAC Comments ( Updated Charter Draft ) Dear Colleagues, While ICG is finalizing the setup and publication of charter comments process, which i hope it can be published as as soon possible. I would like to provide you with ALAC comments on the draft ICG charter, ALAC has discussed been discussing the charter and we are proposing the attached updated charter document. The current draft charter is a too long document ( 6 pages ), not easy to ready and could be subject to different interpretations. The attached ALAC draft is one page only summarizing the charter objectives, attempting to make it easy to read and digest. It has contain ALAC comments in the latest charter draft. Thanks Kind Regards, Mohamed

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Charter public comment link
by Alissa Cooper Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

This is live, feel free to spread the word: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-08-en This will be linked from the ICANN homepage and sent around via ICANN social media soon. Alissa

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Charter commenting
by Alissa Cooper Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

I had sent this in the email about updated deadlines, but did not receive any feedback about it: == Charter == Originally I think we were hoping to have received all charter comments roughly by Aug 1. Mohamed has made a proposal that we setup an explicit mechanism to solicit community feedback on the charter and announce a clear deadline for comments. I have not seen anyone oppose this proposal. So my suggestion is that I work with the secretariat to get an email alias (not a mailing list) up and running where community members can send comments if they are not able to convey them via an ICG member (which I still think is the preferred approach in general for charter comments). Comments sent to this alias would be directly reflected on a web page that we can setup. Assuming we can get this working by July 31, I suggest that we announce an Aug 8 deadline for charter comments. This is not a lengthy period of time but I think we had a general sense that it’s most important to get the broad outlines of the charter right rather than spending weeks on the details, so hopefully this will be sufficient. ============= Alice has suggested that we could use a forum for this purpose, similar to the ones listed here: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/>. We could publish an announcement page that says that we are accepting public comments on the ICG charter, what the deadline is, a link to the charter, a link to the email alias to be used for comment submission, and a link to the forum page where comments will appear. Should we do this? How long of a comment period should we have? (I would say 7-10 days max, assuming we’re interested in major substantive comments and not lots of detailed nits.) Should we give any guidance about what kind of feedback we’re looking for? Thanks, Alissa

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Re: [Internal-cg] Charter commenting - ALAC Comments ( Updated Charter Draft )
by Mohamed El Bashir Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

Milton, ALAC review of the current charter draft concluded that the document need to be shorten and redrafted while at the same time maintain the main principles/objectives of the document . your comments regarding releation to ICANN accountability enhancement work is noted, i will wait for further comments from ICG regarding this approach. Regards, Mohamed On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller(a)syr.edu> wrote: > Mohamed > > This is not an updated charter it is a completely re-written charter. > > As such, it moves us backwards, not forwards. I also note that it lacks > the critical language about the ICG’s relationship to the other enhanced > accountability process and thus is non-negotiably unacceptable to my > stakeholder group and, I suspect, to all the other DNS-based > representatives. I would encourage ALAC to start with the draft that we > worked on and provide commentary on those parts that it feels are > inadequate, unclear or missing. > > > > --MM > > > > *From:* internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto: > internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mohamed El Bashir > *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 6:36 AM > *Cc:* ICG > *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Charter commenting - ALAC Comments ( Updated > Charter Draft ) > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > While ICG is finalizing the setup and publication of charter comments > process, which i hope it can be published as as soon possible. > > I would like to provide you with ALAC comments on the draft ICG charter, > ALAC has discussed been discussing the charter and we are proposing the > attached updated charter document. > > The current draft charter is a too long document ( 6 pages ), not easy to > ready and could be subject to different interpretations. The attached ALAC > draft is one page only summarizing the charter objectives, attempting to > make it easy to read and digest. > > > > It has contain ALAC comments in the latest charter draft. > > > > Thanks > > > > Kind Regards, > Mohamed >

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Session at ICANN-51
by Patrik Fältström Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

I got one comment (thanks Manal) and based on that I have submitted the following. > * Session title; Community Discussion with the ICG > * Brief session overview (extensive session overview and agenda > details can be provided closer to the date) The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) will, at the ICANN51 meeting in Los Angeles, have a discussion with the community on various aspects of the transition. The schedule for the session is as follows: - 15 min update from ICG - 30 min update from coordinated proposals, 5 min. each. To plan the session accordingly and accommodate max number of requests, groups are required to make themselves known to the ICG in advance, highlighting their coordination activities and sending in proposals and/or material they intend to discuss - 45 minutes open microphone where issues are brought up by individuals from the floor and/or remote participants > * Number of attendees ( e.g. 150, 300, 500+) 500+ > * Date, time and duration (From Alice: "based on our experience, I > suggest holding the session on Wednesday as this timeframe will allow > communities to hold discussions in their respective meetings prior to > the session") Wednesday or Thursday Patrik

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Updated draft minutes from first meeting of the ICG
by Samantha Dickinson Aug. 8, 2014

Aug. 8, 2014

Hello all In response to the input received by the 7 August deadline for commenting on the minutes, attached are the updated drafts of minutes as well as Annex A to the minutes (the "matrix"). Could some kind person please add them to the appropriate dropbox folder? I have only received one set of comments on the minutes from one person (Daniel Karrenberg) but have noticed that a few members have updated the matrix in the dropbox folder, including some who weren't present at the meeting or who have added some more informationto augment their statements at the meeting. So at this point, it might be useful to change the two references in the minutes for Days 1 and 2 to the matrix to explain it is not just a record of what people said in the meeting, but also now contains more information added after the meeting. I haven't made this change to the minutes yet, but if there are no objections posted to this list, please expect to see this change in the published version. To differentiate between those who were at the meeting and provided input there from those who weren't present but have voluntarily added information subsequently, I have added a separate table at the bottom for the post-Meeting 1 folks. But if you would prefer it to be all one table (and therefore more easily decoupled from the minutes of Meeting 1, and updated later, perhaps, as needed), please let me know or make the change to the dropbox copy. Finally, please note as explained by Manal on the mailing list, her row in the matrix is pending some text to be agreed by the GAC. In relation to the minutes, there are two documents that would be usefull to include hyperlinks to: - Jari's presentation on Day 1 about IETF's perspectives on proposal development for the IANA stewardship transition. - The draft of the secretariat functions that was edited on the big screen on Day 2. There is yellow highlighter in the minutes to show where these two references would apear. I have trawled through the mail archives, but haven't been able to find the documents. If anyone knows where they are, or would like them added to the resources for Meeting 1 so they can be linked to from the minutes, please let me know. Otherwise, the published version of the minutes will not contain links to either of these documents. Regards Samantha

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Teleconference - August 19, 12:00-14:00 UTC
by Alissa Cooper Aug. 7, 2014

Aug. 7, 2014

We have a date and time for our teleconference: August 19, 12:00-14:00 UTC. Please mark your calendars. I’ve also attached a calendar invite. Alice will follow up with conference bridge details and will get a page setup for a public announcement. I will follow up with a proposed agenda. Thanks, Alissa

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Your biographies
by Alice Jansen Aug. 7, 2014

Aug. 7, 2014

Dear ICG Members, For your information, your biographies are posted on the ICANN website at: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/icg-members-2014-07-29-en Link to interviews conducted to date are also referenced on this page. Should you have any comments or edits, please feel free to send them to Ergys and myself (off list). Thanks, Very best regards Alice

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Redraft of RFP
by Paul Wilson Aug. 6, 2014

Aug. 6, 2014

Thanks to comments from a few of you, here’s a further draft of the RFP. My feeling is that a very structured approach is needed, and I hope that we can gather all the needed information in this way. From the IP addressing community, I think we could provide a detailed and complete response in this format, but other will need to be able to do so too. I hope this is useful. Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg(a)apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38

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Samantha Dickinson in Istanbul
by Alissa Cooper Aug. 6, 2014

Aug. 6, 2014

Hi all, Since we are continuing with our interim secretarial support from ICANN until we get a more long-term secretariat plan finalized, I think it would make sense for Samantha Dickinson to join us again as minute-taker for the Sept 6 meeting. If anyone objects, please say so ASAP as the ICANN folks need to get things finalized with Sam to make this happen. Thanks, Alissa

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