September 2014 - Internal-cg

Fwd: [discuss] [ianatransition] ICG Issues RFP to Fulfill Secretariat Function
by Paul Wilson Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Hi all, In case not aware, there is discussion underway about the Secretariat RFP, on the 1net and ICANN ianatransition lists. FYI. Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg(a)apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 Begin forwarded message: > From: Jordan Carter <jordan(a)internetnz.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [discuss] [ianatransition] ICG Issues RFP to Fulfill Secretariat Function > Date: 5 September 2014 5:23:25 pm AEST > To: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad(a)icann.org>, "discuss(a)1net.org" <discuss(a)1net.org> > Cc: "ianatransition(a)icann.org" <ianatransition(a)icann.org> > > Can someone from the ICG please urgently explain to me (and to everyone else) how one is meant to express interest by this Sunday to run a secretariat with unspecified scope and function as of the Friday? > > Deeply puzzled here. > > Jordan > > > > On 4 September 2014 22:29, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad(a)icann.org> wrote: > Please see original post here: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-02-en > > IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group to Issue Request for Proposal (RFP) to Fulfill Secretariat Function > The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) will issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to select a suitable contractor through ICANN process to perform its secretariat function. The ICG was established as a result of a broad community consultation and in response to the announcement by the U.S National Telecommunication and Information Administration Department (NTIA) of its intent to transition key Internet domain name functions to the global multistakeholder community. > > The ICG is composed of representatives from different stakeholders groups to coordinate and deliver a single proposal. For more information about its role, please visit:https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/coordination-group > > If you are interested in bidding for this proposal please send an Expression of Intent (EoI) toSecretariatForICG-rfp(a)icann.org by 07 September 2014. > > The Expression of Interest shall provide the name of your organisation and your contact details. > > > _______________________________________________ > ianatransition mailing list > ianatransition(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ianatransition > > > > > -- > Jordan Carter > > Chief Executive > InternetNZ > > 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob) > jordan(a)internetnz.net.nz > Skype: jordancarter > > To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential. > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)1net.org > http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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Re: [Internal-cg] whereabouts
by Joseph Alhadeff Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Yes Alissa had noted her absence more than once in group emails. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [pwilson(a)apnic.net] Received: Friday, 05 Sep 2014, 1:46PM To: Narelle Clark [narelle.clark(a)accan.org.au] CC: ICG [internal-cg(a)icann.org] Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] whereabouts I too was aware of Alissa’s plans, and further I am happy for the chairs to split the work as proposed (i.e. to chair half of the meeting each). Thanks, ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg(a)apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 On 5 Sep 2014, at 7:34 pm, Narelle Clark <narelle.clark(a)accan.org.au> wrote: > I recall it being in the Doodle poll... > > -- > > > Narelle Clark > Deputy CEO > > Australian Communications > Consumer Action Network > Suite 402 > Level 4, 55 Mountain St > Ultimo NSW 2007 > Ph: 02 9288 4000 > Direct: 02 9288 4007 > Fax: 02 9288 4019 > TTY: 02 9281 5322 > > > > > Alissa Cooper <alissa(a)cooperw.in> wrote: > > > Hi Milton, > > I let the whole group (and indeed the whole world) know about this 5 weeks ago: > > http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000557.html > http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000580.html > > But from conversations with people this week it seemed like a reminder would be useful. > > Indeed Mohamed and Patrik will be chairing the meeting. > > Best, > Alissa > > On 9/5/14, 10:14 AM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller(a)syr.edu> wrote: > > Alissa, I had no idea you would not be here for the meeting. I saw you here in Istanbul earlier. > A concern: as chair of this largish group you should never presume that communications among the people you are in closer daily contact with magically filter out to the rest of us. Indeed, those kinds of assumptions can disempower committee members who are not part of the same community. > > So the question is, who will chair the meeting? Presumably you have worked something out with Patrik and Mohamed. > > > > From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:47 AM > To: ICG > Subject: [Internal-cg] whereabouts > > I think most people know this, but since I’ve gotten a couple questions, I wanted to re-iterate that I will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow in person. I have a personal engagement in the US tomorrow and my travel back was scheduled before the ICG scheduled its meeting. I will try to attend the second half of the meeting remotely but I’m not sure if I will have phone or Internet connectivity. I believe there are a few other ICG members who will be joining remotely as well. > > Best wishes for a productive meeting, > Alissa > _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg

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ICG Mtg #2 - Logistics
by Alice Jansen Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Dear ICG Members, Attached you will find information on ICG meeting #2 logistics. Thanks, Best regards Alice

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Request for Proposal for Performance of Secretariat Function
by Alice Jansen Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Dear ICG Members, For your information - In anticipation of the release of the RfP for performance of the secretariat function, please find attached the announcement prepared for publication on the website. The announcement and RfP are foreseen to be issued on Monday, 8 September. Note that Monday, 22 September is flagged as the closing date for submission of proposals. Thanks, Best regards Alice

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whereabouts
by Alissa Cooper Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

I think most people know this, but since I’ve gotten a couple questions, I wanted to re-iterate that I will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow in person. I have a personal engagement in the US tomorrow and my travel back was scheduled before the ICG scheduled its meeting. I will try to attend the second half of the meeting remotely but I’m not sure if I will have phone or Internet connectivity. I believe there are a few other ICG members who will be joining remotely as well. Best wishes for a productive meeting, Alissa

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Posting of draft RFP
by Patrik Fältström Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

All, As you have noticed ICANN posted an announcement as a result of a request to have the draft RFP posted, for transparency reasons. I am working with ICANN on coming up with issues that makes this clear. <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-02-en> Patrik

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Re: [Internal-cg] whereabouts
by Alissa Cooper Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Hi Milton, I let the whole group (and indeed the whole world) know about this 5 weeks ago: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000557.html http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000580.html But from conversations with people this week it seemed like a reminder would be useful. Indeed Mohamed and Patrik will be chairing the meeting. Best, Alissa On 9/5/14, 10:14 AM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller(a)syr.edu> wrote: > Alissa, I had no idea you would not be here for the meeting. I saw you here in > Istanbul earlier. > A concern: as chair of this largish group you should never presume that > communications among the people you are in closer daily contact with magically > filter out to the rest of us. Indeed, those kinds of assumptions can > disempower committee members who are not part of the same community. > > So the question is, who will chair the meeting? Presumably you have worked > something out with Patrik and Mohamed. > > > > > From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On > Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 2:47 AM > To: ICG > Subject: [Internal-cg] whereabouts > > > I think most people know this, but since I’ve gotten a couple questions, I > wanted to re-iterate that I will not be able to attend the meeting tomorrow in > person. I have a personal engagement in the US tomorrow and my travel back was > scheduled before the ICG scheduled its meeting. I will try to attend the > second half of the meeting remotely but I’m not sure if I will have phone or > Internet connectivity. I believe there are a few other ICG members who will be > joining remotely as well. > > > > Best wishes for a productive meeting, > > Alissa > _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg

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community information
by WUKnoben Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

All, here’s some text to be used on https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/community, Domain Names: << On the initiative of ICANN related communities a Cross Community Working Group (CWG) is being chartered to conduct the work for a proposal for the IANA stewardship transition. Membership in the CWG is open to members appointed by the chartering organizations. In addition, the CWG will be open to any interested person as an observer. The draft charter can be found at https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/Documents >> I would appreciate the secretariat inserting this in the “Domain Names” box. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich

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Re: [Internal-cg] Fwd: [ianatransition] RFP for Transition Proposal Issued by ICG
by Narelle Clark Sept. 5, 2014

Sept. 5, 2014

Yes, my understanding was this meant as a draft for community feedback *before* requesting responses. What's going on? Narelle -- Narelle Clark Deputy CEO Australian Communications Consumer Action Network Suite 402 Level 4, 55 Mountain St Ultimo NSW 2007 Ph: 02 9288 4000 Direct: 02 9288 4007 Fax: 02 9288 4019 TTY: 02 9281 5322 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> wrote: Someone seriously jumped the gun, also on the secretariat. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [ianatransition] RFP for Transition Proposal Issued by ICG Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:05:27 +0000 From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad(a)icann.org> To: ianatransition(a)icann.org <ianatransition(a)icann.org> For original post, see https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en Request for Proposals (RFP) for IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal Issued by the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group // <https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb2…>// <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en#>// <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en#>// <https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb2…>// <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en#>// <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-3-2014-09-03-en#> The IANA Stewardship Coordination Group (ICG) today issued a Request for Proposals (RFP) seeking complete formal responses from the "operational communities" of IANA (i.e. those with direct operational or service relationships with the IANA functions operator, in connection with names, numbers, or protocol parameters). *The target deadline for all complete formal responses to this RFP is 31 December 2014.* Proposals are expected to enjoy a broad consensus of support from all interested parties. During the development of their proposals, the operational communities are requested to consult and work with other affected parties. Likewise, in order to help the ICG maintain its light coordination role, all other affected parties are strongly encouraged to participate in community processes. Information about ongoing community processes and how to participate in them can be found here <https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/community>. Communities are asked to adhere to open and inclusive processes in developing their responses, so that all community members may fully participate in and observe those processes. Communities are also asked to actively seek out and encourage wider participation by any other parties with interest in their response. Additionally, while the ICG is requesting complete formal proposals from the operational communities only, and that all interested parties get involved as early as possible in the relevant community processes, some parties may choose to provide comments directly to the ICG about specific aspects of particular proposals, about the community processes, or about the ICG's own processes. Comments may be directly submitted to the ICG any time via email to icg-forum(a)icann.org <mailt:cg-forum@icann.org>. Comments will be publicly archived at http://forum.icann.org/lists/icg-forum The full RFP can be found here <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-03sep14-en…> [PDF, 95 KB]. RFP Activities Schedule: RFP Published 3 September 2014 Closing Date for Submission of Proposals 31 December 2014

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Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building
by Joseph Alhadeff Sept. 4, 2014

Sept. 4, 2014

By a proxy do you mean another icc member who would be able to participate if there's a conflicted time for the principal? Joe Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -----Original Message----- From: WUKnoben [wolf-ulrich.knoben(a)t-online.de] Received: Thursday, 04 Sep 2014, 8:03PM To: Joe Alhadeff [joseph.alhadeff(a)oracle.com] Martin.Boyle(a)nominet.org.uk [Martin.Boyle(a)nominet.org.uk] CC: internal-cg(a)icann.org [internal-cg(a)icann.org] alissa(a)cooperw.in [alissa(a)cooperw.in] Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building Yes, this is the intention. Quorum of members shall apply only in case a decision is due. Meeting attendance in general is a different aspect. We’re going to deal with more and more details which may be important to fix depending on how we want to proceed. One example could be proxy for members being absent from a meeting. To consider all communities in the way I’ve suggested may impose a problem to those represented by just 1 member (ASO, ICC/BASIS). In these cases proxy could help. Throughout our discourse various levels have been put forward to reach quorum or decision. In the paper attached I’ve tried to make it more transparent and comparable re numbers and “quality” of these figures. Maybe it could be complemented. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Joe Alhadeff Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:51 AM To: Martin.Boyle(a)nominet.org.uk Cc: internal-cg(a)icann.org ; alissa(a)cooperw.in ; Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben(a)t-online.de Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building I think there are perhaps two amendments I would suggest to Martin's comments. 1. Quorum as a concept should probably be more clearly applied only to voting/ultimate decision-making. In its normal usage it also applies to when a meeting can be held based on attendance of members. 2. I agree that operational communities have a special role, but also believe that we need to consider all communities. Is there a way to keep the text as is and address Martin's concern in IV instead? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin.Boyle(a)nominet.org.uk To: alissa(a)cooperw.in, Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben(a)t-online.de, internal-cg(a)icann.org Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building Thank you Alissa: this reflects my concerns well. I note that we did this discussion entirely by e-mail, so I can understand how Wolf-Ulrich missed it. I have a couple of other comments - all are in the marked-up draft attached and placed in drop-box. Best Martin -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper Sent: 03 September 2014 11:29 To: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben; internal-cg(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] consensus building Wolf-Ulrich, Thanks for your work on this. On 9/2/14, 1:19 AM, "WUKnoben" wrote: > >* “small minority”: should further be discussed. I added > the condition that a recommendation is not reached if at least one of >the ICG > communities (according to the list) as a whole is firmly and formally >opposed. > That would mean a formal written objection by the community >leadership on > behalf of their community. > I’m not sure this matches what was being discussed on the list. If we use the text Martin had suggested, I think the third bullet under section 4(b) should read: "After enough time has passed for the ICG to consider and attempt to accommodate objections, the ICG can reach a conclusion if at most a small minority disagrees and their objections have been documented. It is not expected that the representatives of an operational community significantly and directly affected by a conclusion would be overruled in this process.” Alissa _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg

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