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Meeting agendas in Dublin
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 18, 2015

Oct. 18, 2015

Dear CJK GP members, Now ICANN Dublin meeting is less than 1-week away. According to the answers to my previous mail, the participants will be : == CGP Wei WANG 18-22, Oct. Kenny Huang 18-22, Oct. Di MA 18-22, Oct. Chris Dillon 18-22, Oct. Ning Kong 19-21, Oct. JGP Hiro Hotta 18-22, Oct. Yoshiro Yoneya 18-22, Oct. Akinor Maemura Yoshitaka Murakami Yuri Takamatsu 18-22, Oct. KGP Dongman Lee 17-19, Oct. Shin-Young Park 17-22, Oct. Minjung PARK 17-22, Oct. == As to CJK GP coordination meeting, the framework of the meetings is planned to be the same. I.e., they are : === Oct.18(Sun) xx:xx-xx:xx CJK only meeting @xxxx Oct.19(Mon) 15:30-16:30 1st CJK GP Coordination Meeting @Ecocem Oct.21(Wed) 10:30-11:45 IDN Program Update @Wicklow MRS 13:00-14:15 Root Zone LGR Workshop @Wicklow MR4 Oct.22(Thu) 08:00-09:15 2nd CJK GP Coordination Meeting @Liffey BR3 09:15-10:30 CJK only meeting @xxxx === I'll come back to you as soon as the meeting time/room on Sunday and Thursday are confirmed. In 24 hours from now, I'll send you 4 mails that includes each draft meeting agenda (except of those meeting agendas on Wednesday). Regards, Hiro, JGP

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Re: [Japanesegp] [ChineseGP] Your homework for CJK Coordination Meetings in Dublin
by 王伟 Oct. 18, 2015

Oct. 18, 2015

Dear JGP, KGP and CGP members CGP's homework are as attached: 1) Updated LGR documents in EXECL format and XML format 2) a public letter to ICANN on label generation process Please feel free to give your valuable comments Wang Wei -----邮件原件----- 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 HiroHOTTA 发送时间: 2015年10月18日 16:17 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org; JapaneseGP(a)icann.org; KoreanGP(a)icann.org 主题: Re: [ChineseGP] [Japanesegp] Your homework for CJK Coordination Meetings in Dublin If you haven't, please send the documents relavant to today's CJK meeting before 13:00 Dublin local time. Below you can find the documents that you have a responsibility for : > 1. working status of the action items from the ICANN Buenos Aires > meeting > > - action item list [Hiro] > > 2. each GP update > > - recent CGP XML (updated referring to CDNC version) [CGP] > - recent JGP XML (same as Buenos Aires version) [JGP] > - recent KGP XML (newly developed) [KGP] > - overview of Korean XML (LGR-alpha) [KGP] > - if there's a need for any other update than the above, > please give them orally > > 3. sharing the result of CJK LGR-alpha analysis (if ready) > > - any document CGP will provide (if any) [CGP] > - analysis report regarding allocatable variants [JGP] > - any document KGP will provide (if any other than 4.) [KGP] > > 4. discussion on pending coordination issues > > - analysis report regarding the difference between > CGP variants and KGP variants [KGP] > > 5. finalizing presentation on CJK coordination given by Hiro > > - presentation slides for CJK coordination [Hiro] > > 6. discussion about letters to ICANN > > - draft letter-1 to ICANN [Wang Wei] > - draft letter-2 to ICANN [Hiro] On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:18:16 +0900 HiroHOTTA <hotta(a)jprs.co.jp> wrote: > Dear all, > > This mail picks up the homework (documents) that you are expected to > bring in to Dublin CJK Coordination Meetings. > > If [your name] is clearly specified, you are requested to bring the > document to the meeting. > If [GP name] is specified, Chair is requested to appoint someone to > write the document for the GP, and the appointee is requested to bring > the document to the meeting. > > Please send all documents well in advance to each meeting - at least > by the time 8 hours before the meeting. Each document should have the > document title and the author name at the top of the document. > > Below : please refer to your homework for each meeting in Dublin. > > Regards, > Hiro > > =============== > > a line in the form of > > - document content [author] > > shows "[author] is requested to provide the document to the meeting" > > =============== > (1) Oct.18(Sun) xx:xx-xx:xx CJK only meeting > > 1. working status of the action items from the ICANN Buenos Aires > meeting > > - action item list [Hiro] > > 2. each GP update > > - recent CGP XML (updated referring to CDNC version) [CGP] > - recent JGP XML (same as Buenos Aires version) [JGP] > - recent KGP XML (newly developed) [KGP] > - overview of Korean XML (LGR-alpha) [KGP] > - if there's a need for any other update than the above, > please give them orally > > 3. sharing the result of CJK LGR-alpha analysis (if ready) > > - any document CGP will provide (if any) [CGP] > - analysis report regarding allocatable variants [JGP] > - any document KGP will provide (if any other than 4.) [KGP] > > 4. discussion on pending coordination issues > > - analysis report regarding the difference between > CGP variants and KGP variants [KGP] > > 5. finalizing presentation on CJK coordination given by Hiro > > - presentation slides for CJK coordination [Hiro] > > 6. discussion about letters to ICANN > > - draft letter-1 to ICANN [Wang Wei] > - draft letter-2 to ICANN [Hiro] > > 7. confirming CJK & IP meeting (19 Oct.) agenda and materials > > - no specific document is needed > > =============== > (2) Oct.19(Mon) 15:30-16:30 1st CJK GP Coordination Meeting > > 1. each GP status brief update > > - no document is needed for this > - only oral brief report that are not related to 2., 3., or 4. > below is expected > > 2. review of the algorithm > > - revised algorithm (v0.4) [Yoneya] > > 3. discussion: reducing the number of allocatable labels > > - investigation on the reduction of allocatable labels [Yoneya] > > 4. discussion: letters to ICANN > > - draft letter-1 to ICANN (revised in Sunday meeting) [Wang Wei] > - draft letter-2 to ICANN (revised in Sunday meeting) [Hiro] > > 5. AOB > > 6. summary > > - no specific document is needed beforehand > > =============== > (3) Oct.22(Thu) 08:00-09:15 2nd CJK GP Coordination Meeting > > 1. discussion: matters raised in the 1st CJK coordination meeting > on 19 Oct 2015 > > - necessary document will be defined on Oct.19(Mon) meeting > > 2. continued discussion: reducing the number of allocatable labels > > - necessary document will be defined on Oct.19(Mon) meeting > > 3. continued discussion: letters to ICANN > > - necessary document will be defined on Oct.19(Mon) meeting > > 4. AOB > > 5. summary and further action items > > - no specific document is needed beforehand > > =============== > (4) 2nd CJK coordination meeting (CJK only) on 22 Oct 2015 > > 1. discussion: finalize the format (including : from whom to whom) > and the content of the letters to ICANN > > - necessary document will be defined in > (3) Oct.22(Thu) 08:00-09:15 2nd CJK GP Coordination Meeting > > 2. summary of Dublin meetings > > - no specific document is needed beforehand > > 3. allocate specific person names who will resolve action items > > - no specific document is needed beforehand > > 4. future plan > > - no specific document is needed beforehand > > 5. AOB > > =============== > > > > _______________________________________________ > japanesegp mailing list > japanesegp(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/japanesegp > _______________________________________________ ChineseGP mailing list ChineseGP(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp

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Characters likely to cause offence
by Dillon, Chris Oct. 18, 2015

Oct. 18, 2015

Dear Yoneya-san, I mentioned in my last email that one of the things I found in J-LGR-2.xlsx was of a more serious nature. I suspect there may be other characters in there that could cause offence, but 卐 5350 could be horribly abused. I realize that the character it represents is used innocently in temples. It is not our responsibility to make decisions about cases such as this and as far as I know, no part of the existing system deals with them. However, having observed long discussion over cases such as .xxx and .sucks, alarm bells do go off and one feels one should draw 5350 to the attention of colleagues. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon

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agenda of Sunday CJK meeting
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 18, 2015

Oct. 18, 2015

Please find attached the following 2 agenda files - Dublin Overall Agenda for CJK Coordination - 1st CJK coordination meeting (CJK only) on 18 Oct 2015 Hiro

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Re: [Japanesegp] [lgr] IDN Program Interactions at ICANN 54
by Sarmad Hussain Oct. 16, 2015

Oct. 16, 2015

Dear All, Please find attached the updated schedule of IDN Program interactions at ICANN 54. Regards, Sarmad From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:58 PM To: LGR(a)icann.org Subject: IDN Program Interactions at ICANN 54 Dear All, Kindly find attached the schedule of IDN Program interactions at ICANN 54. We look forward to your participation. Regards, Sarmad _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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Presentation about CJK Coordination Committee
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 16, 2015

Oct. 16, 2015

Dear CJK GP colleagues, CJK GPs will collectively present the status of our coordination to the public audience on Wednesday 21 October in ICANN Dublin meeting. I drafted the slides for that as attached. As far as I know, no substantial coordination outcome has been made regarding the RootLGR per se after Buenos Aires. Instead of that, two letters to ICANN, which were suggested in Buenos Aires meetings, have been mostly drafted by Wang Wei and me. Seeing this situation, my idea becomes that we use this "CJK coordination committee update slot" to pose these letters (= proposals) to the audience and solicit their (preferably positive) feedback - at least explain the existence of the problems to the audience out of CJK. Of course we CJK will discuss about the letters (= proposals) in the meetings on Sunday 18 and Monday 19 October, which is before the presentation about CJK Coordination Committee. Happy to have your comments on the tactics and on the slides themselves. Wang Wei, could you elaborate one slide of the content of your letter? I will do the same for second slide. Regards, Hiro

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(1) Draft agenda of 18 Oct. CJK-only meeting
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 16, 2015

Oct. 16, 2015

Dear CJK GP members, Below is the draft agenda of 18 Oct. CJK-only meeting and draft status update of the action items from Buenos Aires meetings. Please give comments about the format and agenda items. And, PLEASE READ THE DRAFTS CAREFULLY AND PREPARE FOR DOCUMENTS OF - Necessary information for the agenda items. - Report regarding action items from Buenos Aires meetings AND SEND THEM TO ChineseGP(a)icann.org, JapaneseGP(a)icann.org, KoreanGP(a)icann.org AT LEAST 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING This time, my plan is that we won't distribute paper-copies. Regards, Hiro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [18 Oct 2015] [CJK coordination meeting (CJK only)] Proposed by Hiro ================ draft draft draft draft ================ agenda of 1st CJK coordination meeting (CJK only) on 18 Oct 2015 date/time Oct 18 2015 xx:xx - xx:xx (1.5 hours) place TBD (any remote participants?) participants (the whole list not confirmed yet) CGP Wei WANG Kenny Huang Di MA Chris Dillon Ning Kong JGP Hiro Hotta Yoshiro Yoneya Akinor Maemura Yoshitaka Murakami Yuri Takamatsu KGP Dongman Lee Shin-Young Park Minjung PARK Advisor Edmon Chung agenda 1. working status of the action items from the ICANN Buenos Aires meeting Action items from Buenos Aires meetings are pasted at the bottom of this mail. I commented to each action item with my perception of its working status. 2. each GP update 3. sharing the result of CJK LGR-alpha analysis (if ready) 4. discussion on pending coordination issues + coordination between "CGP variants" and "KGP variants" + any others? 5. finalizing presentation on CJK coordination given by Hiro 6. discussion about letters to ICANN (drafted by Wang Wei and Hiro) 7. confirming CJK & IP meeting (19 Oct) agenda and materials + each GP status brief update + letter to ICANN + reduction of allocatable labels + any others? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Action list (agreed in ICANN Meeting Buenos Aires) 1. Yoneya will remove the last note and finalize the terminology. ->done 2. Yoneya will revise “step3, 1.1.2” and send it to CJK to confirm integration algorithm. ->'review' is introduced as an intermediate status of some kinds of variant labels generated by the algorithm ->done 3. propose comments and questions to ICANN 3.1. Hiro will write something that propose use of LGR as part of the application process. ->under drafting 3.2. Wang Wei will write something of putting attributes to the generated labels possibly using subtypes. ->almost drafted 4. Edmon will draft a statement for consideration for agreement for the LGR being only the part of the application process, which is one of the results of this meeting. ->not yet done : may follow 3.1 and 3.2 5. JGP will try to find some ways to reduce the allocatable labels. ->investigation done 6. CGP will find the way using WLE to ensure that the applied for label can be allocatable even the result of the LGR has it as blocked. ->will be included in the document in 3.2i --

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Chair of each GP in Dublin
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 14, 2015

Oct. 14, 2015

Dear Wang Wei, Kenny, Prof. Kim, Could you share about who will represent each GP in Dublin? My understanding is below : CGP Wei WANG & Kenny Huang during 18-22 October (whole Dublin period) JGP Hiro Hotta during 18-22 October (whole Dublin period) KGP Dongman Lee during 18-19 October Shin-Young Park during 20-22 October If you choose someone else, please respond ASAP. Regards, Hiro == participants == CGP Wei WANG 18-22, Oct. Kenny Huang 18-22, Oct. Di MA 18-22, Oct. Chris Dillon 18-22, Oct. Ning Kong 19-21, Oct. JGP Hiro Hotta 18-22, Oct. Yoshiro Yoneya 18-22, Oct. Akinor Maemura Yoshitaka Murakami Yuri Takamatsu 18-22, Oct. KGP Dongman Lee 17-19, Oct. Shin-Young Park 17-22, Oct. Minjung PARK 17-22, Oct. ==

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[lgr] IDN Program Interactions at ICANN 54
by Sarmad Hussain Oct. 12, 2015

Oct. 12, 2015

Dear All, Kindly find attached the schedule of IDN Program interactions at ICANN 54. We look forward to your participation. Regards, Sarmad _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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(4) Draft agenda of 22 Oct. CJK-only meeting
by HiroHOTTA Oct. 12, 2015

Oct. 12, 2015

Dear CJK GP members and Sarmad, Below is the draft agenda of 22 Oct. CJK-only meeting. This is the wrap-up meeting to summarize what happened in Dublin, confirm action items, and allocate each action item to some member(s). Please give comments about the format and agenda items. Regards, Hiro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [22 Oct 2015] [CJK coordination meeting (CJK only)] Proposed by Hiro ================ draft draft draft draft ================ agenda of 2nd CJK coordination meeting (CJK only) on 22 Oct 2015 date/time October 22 2015 9:15 - 10:30 place TBD (remote participant) participants (the whole list not confirmed yet) CGP Wei WANG Kenny Huang Di MA Chris Dillon Ning Kong JGP Hiro Hotta Yoshiro Yoneya Akinori Maemura Yoshitaka Murakami Yuri Takamatsu KGP Shin-Young Park Minjung PARK Advisor Edmon Chung agenda 1. discussion: finalize the format (including : from whom to whom) and the content of the letters to ICANN 2. summary of Dublin meetings - result - action Items 3. name specific person names who resolve action items 4. future plan - each GP - coordination committee 5. AOB ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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