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Characters likely to cause offence
by Dillon, Chris Oct. 18, 2015

Oct. 18, 2015

Dear Yoneya-san, I mentioned in my last email that one of the things I found in J-LGR-2.xlsx was of a more serious nature. I suspect there may be other characters in there that could cause offence, but 卐 5350 could be horribly abused. I realize that the character it represents is used innocently in temples. It is not our responsibility to make decisions about cases such as this and as far as I know, no part of the existing system deals with them. However, having observed long discussion over cases such as .xxx and .sucks, alarm bells do go off and one feels one should draw 5350 to the attention of colleagues. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon

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[lgr] LGR toolset- beta version
by Alireza Saleh Aug. 28, 2015

Aug. 28, 2015

Dear all, Please be informed you that the beta version for LGR-toolset is now available for testing. The tool can be accessed at : http://lgr-demo.viagenie.ca <http://lgr-demo.viagenie.ca/> . For those who are interested in testing it please contact Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet(a)viagenie.ca> to get the username/password. We would appreciate your comments and feedback. Regards, Alireza _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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[lgr] FW: [ICANN News Alert] Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone‬ Label Generation Rules (LGR)
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 25, 2015

Aug. 25, 2015

Dear All, Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone LGR has been released for public comments. Details at https://www.icann.org/public-comments/arabic-lgr-proposal-2015-08-24-en. Regards, Sarmad <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-08-24-en _____ Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) 24 August 2015 Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 24 August 2015 Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Purpose (Brief): The Arabic script community has formed the Task Force on Arabic Script IDNs (TF-AIDN <https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Task+Force+on+Arabic+Script+IDNs> ), also acting as the Arabic script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed a Proposal for the Arabic Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (Proposal <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-arabic-lgr-22aug15-en.…> [XML, 29 KB] and Proposal Documentation <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/arabic-lgr-proposal-23aug15-en.…> [PDF, 2.35 MB]). As per the LGR Procedure <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/lgr-procedure-20mar13-en.pdf> [PDF, 772 KB], this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Arabic script GP to make their views known to the Arabic Generation Panel so it can finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. Public Comment Box Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/arabic-lgr-proposal-2015-08-24-en _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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[lgr] Fw: [Lager] Fw: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt
by Yoshiro YONEYA Aug. 18, 2015

Aug. 18, 2015

FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:13:23 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya(a)jprs.co.jp> To: lager(a)ietf.org Subject: [Lager] Fw: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt Dear all, On behalf of co-authors, I submitted following I-D which is a deliverable of Chinese/Japanese/Korean (CJK) Generation Panels' coordination work. We hope this document helps those who are going to generate label generation rules. Your comments are very much appreciated. -- Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya(a)jprs.co.jp> Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:57:05 -0700 From: internet-drafts(a)ietf.org To: <i-d-announce(a)ietf.org> Subject: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : CJK Terminology for Label Generation Rules Authors : Yoshiro Yoneya Wang Wei Kyongsok Kim Filename : draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2015-08-18 Abstract: Chinese Generation Panel [CGP], Japanese Generation Panel [JGP], and Korean Generation Panel [KGP] are collaborating to develop Root zone LGR [RootLGR] for Chinese/Japanese/Korean (CJK). During the cross- communities collaboration work, CJK GPs, together with Integration Panel [IP] members, recognized that a common terminology definition for key concepts is essential in order to have an efficient, transparent and smooth progress of developing CJK Label Generation Rules (LGR) [I-D.ietf-lager-specification]. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt _______________________________________________ Lager mailing list Lager(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lager _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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Re: [Japanesegp] [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph)
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear Mr. Qichao: Thanks very much for you quick response. (I thought it would take more time for you to find/make a new simp-trad list) I checked the new simp-trad list you sent to me. The quality of this new list is really great. I could not find any error/problem which existed in the first simp-trad list. There is one thing I would like to mention. I found one thing which I did not expect at all. 19 simplified chars are NOT in 12563 Hanzi in C-LGR-1 (2015.04.30.) ! I don't think this is an error. I expected that all of 2235 simplified Hanzi are in 12563 Hanzi in C-LGR-1 (2015.04.30.), which is not true. I really appreciate your help. Rgds, KIM, K. ---------------------------------- QUES3 ?: 1: simp 䎬(43AC) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 2: simp 䞍(478D) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 3: simp 㱮(3C6E) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 4: simp 䙌(464C) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 5: simp 㧏(39CF) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 6: simp 唡(5521) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 7: simp 䦶(49B6) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 8: simp 䦷(49B7) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 9: simp 鹥(9E65) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 10: simp 挢(6322) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 11: simp 谉(8C09) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 12: simp 挜(631C) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 13: simp 䲣(4CA3) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 14: simp 饦(9966) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 15: simp 馎(998E) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 16: simp 䥺(497A) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 17: simp 铓(94D3) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 18: simp 䦂(4982) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 19: simp 䦆(4986) NOT in 12563; On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:30 PM, 齐超 <qichao(a)cnnic.cn> wrote: > Mr. KIM, > > Hello, here is a new simp-trad list from > https://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/%E7%AE%80%E5%8C%96%E5%AD%97%E6%80%BB%E8%A1%A8. > > Unfortunately I could NOT visit zh.wikipedia.org, I found > zh.wikisource.org instead of it. > > This new list contains: > > Table1 , 350 Hanzi > Table 2, 132 Hanzi > Table 3, 1753 (1755 includes Two code points in Table1 as former mail, > which are > > "签 - 籤" "须 - 鬚" in table1, > "签 - 簽" "须 - 須" in table 3.) > > Total count is 2235 ! Please check it and if any problem, do not hesitate to > contact me. > > I am very sorry for any inconvenience of the last list. > > Thank you. > > ________________________________ > Qichao > > 发件人： KIM Kyongsok > 发送时间： 2015年8月11日(星期二) 下午10:57 > 收件人：齐超; wangwei > 抄送： ChineseGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok; 김 민지; 조성덕; 신상현 > 主题： Re: Re: [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars > (UCS code position and glyph) > Dear Messrs WANG and Qichao: > > Thanks very much for your list of simplified Hanzi. > I really appreciate it. > > I checked your list and found some confusing lines. > You can check the attached PDF file for details. > > Thank very much.. > > Rgds, > > KIM, Kyongsok > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:45 PM, 齐超 <qichao(a)cnnic.cn> wrote: >> Dear KIM, >> >> Hello , this attachment is Simplified Hanzi List, which is from >> http://wenke.hep.edu.cn/gfhz/html/gfbz.asp . >> >> This file contains three table: >> >> Table1 , 350 Hanzi >> Table 2, 132 Hanzi >> Table 3, 1754 (Not 1753) >> >> Total hanzi are 2236. But please note that there are duplicate simplified >> hanzi in table1 and table3: >> "签 - 籤" >> "须 - 鬚" in table1, >> and >> "签 - 簽" >> "须 - 須" in table 3. >> >> If any question ,please contact me. Thank you . >> >> Best Regards. >> >> ________________________________ >> Qichao via foxmail >> >> 发件人： KIM Kyongsok >> 发送时间： 2015年8月10日(星期一) 上午11:23 >> 收件人：王伟 >> 抄送： 김 민지; 조성덕; chinesegp(a)icann.org; 신상현 >> 主题： Re: [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars >> (UCS >> code position and glyph) >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:18 PM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Kim >>> >>> We are working on that list and will response ASAP. >> >> Dear Mr. Wang Wei: >> >> Great. Thanks so much. >> >> KIM, K. >>> >>> Thanks for your work at KGP, hope everything goes well. >>> >>> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 >>> KIM Kyongsok >>> 发送时间: 2015年8月10日 11:07 >>> 收件人: Kenny Huang, Ph.D. >>> 抄送: 김 민지; 조성덕; chinesegp(a)icann.org; 신상현 >>> 主题: Re: [ChineseGP] Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS >>> code position and glyph) >>> >>> Dear Mr. Huang: >>> >>> Thanks very much for your explanation and translation. >>> >>> Now I wonder if I can >>> a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph) and >>> corresponding Traditional Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph). >>> >>> >>> It can be shown in a table format as follows: >>> >>> Simp/UCS and glyph; Trad1/UCS and glyph, (Trad2/UCS and glyph, ...) >>> >>> 1. ..... ..... >>> 2. .... ..... >>> ... >>> 2235 ... .... >>> >>> For some simplified char, there can be more than one corresponding >>> traditional chars in general. >>> >>> >>> Thanks very much in advance. >>> >>> KIM, K. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Kenny Huang, Ph.D. <huangksh(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Dear Prof. Kim, >>>> >>>> Thanks. The information is clear. "简化字总表" in English I guess would be >>>> "A Summary of Simplified Chinese Character". Correct me if my >>>> translation is wrong. Our CN colleagues can do a much better job than >>>> me. >>>> >>>> 简化字总表 is the foundation of Traditional Chinese / Simplified Chinese >>>> CDNC table. However, the existing version of CDNC table is made by >>>> many language experts from different regions and refer to various >>>> sources, which include but not limited to 简化字总表. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Kenny Huang >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 August 2015 at 09:50, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Mr. Kenny Huang: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your quick response. >>>>> >>>>> I cannot fully understand Chinese explanation found in wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>> However, roughly I understood it. >>>>> >>>>> I am referring to 2235 chars (= 350 chars table 1, >>>>> 132 chars in table 2, 1753 chars in table 3) in 简化字总表. >>>>> >>>>> I hope it answers your question. >>>>> >>>>> * BTW, what is the official full name of "简化字总表." in Chinese and >>>>> English (e.g., standard number(?), published by what government >>>>> branch, years, etc.) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Rgds, >>>>> >>>>> KIM, K. >>>>> ----------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%AE%80%E5%8C%96%E5%AD%97%E6%80%BB%E8 >>>>> %A1%A8 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 简化字总表 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》是中国大陆曾经的简化字标准，于2013年由《通用规范汉字表》（基本沿袭《简化字总表》之标准，但没有提及字表以外的汉字是否类推 >>>>> 简化）取代。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》最初在1964年发表，是为了修补1956年公布的《汉字简化方案》的缺漏。《汉字简化方案》由于欠缺系统及不作说明，导致了社会上 >>>>> 用字混乱。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 后于1977年二简字草案公布，试行了一段时间后中止， >>>>> >>>>> 1980年起再行修订，但是二简字修订草案最后不被采用，二简字被废除， >>>>> >>>>> 因此1986年再次发布《简化字总表》。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》的最终版本是1986年修订版， >>>>> >>>>> 共收2,274个简化字及 14个简化偏旁： >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 第一表收不可用作简化偏旁的简化字350个， >>>>> >>>>> 第二表收可作简化偏旁用的简化字132个及 >>>>> >>>>> 讠[訁]、饣[飠]、纟[糹]、钅[釒]、呙[咼]等14个简化偏旁， >>>>> >>>>> 第三表收类推简化字1,753个， >>>>> >>>>> 《附录》收习惯被看作简化字的规范汉字39个， >>>>> >>>>> 其《说明》里有提到表外字“凡用第二表的简化字或简化偏旁作为偏旁的，一般应该同样简 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Kenny Huang, Ph.D. >>>>> <huangksh(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Dear Prof. Kim, >>>>> > >>>>> > I am not sure what list you requested. Can you tell us a little bit >>>>> > more about the information of the list ? >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks and Regards >>>>> > >>>>> > Kenny Huang >>>>> > >>>>> > On 10 August 2015 at 08:05, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear everybody: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would like to modify my request as follows: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would like to get >>>>> >> a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and >>>>> >> glyph) and corresponding Traditional Hanzi chars (UCS code >>>>> >> position and glyph). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It can be shown in a table format as follows: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Simp/UCS and glyph; Trad1/UCS and glyph, (Trad2/UCS and glyph, >>>>> >> ...) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 1. ..... ..... >>>>> >> 2. .... ..... >>>>> >> ... >>>>> >> 2235 ... .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For some simplified char, there can be more than one corresponding >>>>> >> traditional chars in general. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks very much in advance. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> KIM, K. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Re: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code >>>>> >> position and glyph) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:37 PM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > Hi, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > The subject tells everything ^ - ^ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Thanks in advance. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> ChineseGP mailing list >>>>> >> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >>>>> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ChineseGP mailing list >>> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp >> >> >> >> -- >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >> _______________________________________________ >> ChineseGP mailing list >> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp > > > > -- > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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[lgr] Call for participation - Latin Generation Panel
by Dillon, Chris Aug. 5, 2015

Aug. 5, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find attached to this email the call for participation for the Latin Generation Panel. It is in the process of being formed. It will focus on the identification of the permissible set of code-point repertoires, variants, if any, and the associated Whole Label Evaluation (WLE) rules. Similar treatment of all the related languages will promote the secure deployment and ease of use of Latin script labels for the community. The main aim of the Panel is to treat all Latin-based languages in a similar manner in terms of Label Generation Rule (LGR) formation. Interested candidates need to submit a covering email to idntlds(a)icann.org<mailto:idntlds@icann.org> along with the following attachments: 1. Expression of interest 2. Short profile pertinent to IDNs/lCANN/linguistics For further information, please see the Panel's wiki page: https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP and the generic call for volunteers: www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11iu113-en.htm<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-11iu113-en.htm> Yours, Chris Dillon. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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