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56 simplitional chars based on 4819 chars in K-LGR v0.3
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 1, 2016

Aug. 1, 2016

Dear everybody: Enclosed you will find 56 simplitional chars based on 4819 chars in K-LGR v0.3. Thanks. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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comments (4) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.20.), Q7
by KIM Kyongsok July 20, 2016

July 20, 2016

Dear Mr. Wang Wei: Thanks for your quick response. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:07 AM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: > Dear Prof. Kim > > Thanks for your review which help find out some editorial errors. > > I noticed that you compared the current table with 2015.04.30, > which was already replaced by CGP LGR 20160612 > before the ICANN Helsinki meeting. > The rational of the repertoire extension was explained > in the attached WORD document. I fully understand your repertoire extension. I checked each of CGP LGR 20160612, CGP LGR 20160718, and CGP LGR 20160720 against LGR 20150430. > To your question Q1, the sequencing of "朦(6726)䑃(4443)" > has been changed to "䑃(4443)朦(6726)" > To your question Q3, MSS --> CCC, yes, > it is an editorial mistake that replace the "CCC" by "MSS" automatically. > To your question Q4, yes, the parentheses has been changed into ASCII format in the attached new version. RE: Q1, Q3, and Q4: Great. Thanks. > To your question Q2, your number is correct. Great. Thanks. I hope that correct numbers of characters and variant groups will be incorporated into the "revised" CGP Proposal Draft 20160613.docx later. > To your question Q5, those characters went through > review process last year and were set as independent chars. I see. I wll summarize my understanding below: 1) The two var. groups dropped. 1a) formerly vg (5CAB 岫, 5CC0 峀) --> Now, 2 independent chars. 諝 8ADD 1b) formerly vg of size 3: (O 5999 妙, X 7385 玅, O 7AD7 竗) --> Now, split into ONE indep. char. 竗(7AD7) and ONE var. group of size 2 composed of (妙 5999, 玅 7385). 2) Three new var. groups created (added) in C-LGR 2016.06.12.) 2a) (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫): a new vg of size 2 2b) (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆): a new vg. of size 2 2c) formerly, ONE independent char 㥠(3960) and one var. group of size 2 composed of ( 諝 8ADD, 谞 8C1E) --> Now, a new vg of size 3 (3960 㥠, 8ADD 諝, X 8C1E 谞). Plz correct me if I am wrong. > After Helsinki meeting, the IP reminds that㩜(3A5C) and墵(58B5) are out of MSR scope, so I also take them away for the time being. I see. Thanks. I will label it Q6 (although it is not my question..) Q7. TWO minor typos on page 5 of file <CGP Proposal Draft 20160613.docx>. 1) "한자 Hanjia" --> "한자 Hanja" (without "i") 2) and Hanjia are both therefore covered by CGP. --> and Hanja are both therefore covered by CGP. (without "i") Thanks again. Rgds, KIM, K. > > Please refer the attached new version of repertoire and variants. > > > Regards > WANG Wei > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: KIM Kyongsok [mailto:gimgs0@gmail.com] > 发送时间: 2016年7月19日 15:47 > 收件人: 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> > 抄送: chinesegp(a)icann.org; JapaneseGP(a)icann.org; koreanGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> > 主题: Re: comments (3) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.), Q4 and Q5. > > Dear Mr. Wang Wei: > > I am making progress ^-^ and noticed some more errors/changes. > > > ================================================================ > Q3 (My previous message RE: MSS --> CCC) > > ================================================================= > > Q4. This seems minor too. I notices that CJK compatibility paren was used instead of regular ASCII paren. There were 2 occurrences in one line. > > I would like to suggest that > "）" (CJK compatibility paren) --> ")" (ASCII paren). > [ 2 occurrences in one line] > > 83B5 莵菟(83DF）菟(83DF）莵(83B5)菟(83DF) > --> > 83B5 莵菟(83DF) 菟(83DF) 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) > > > ================================================================= > Q5: I compared variant groups in C-LGR (2015.04.30.) and vg in C-LGR > (2016.07.18.) and > noticed some two variant groups (vg) were removed and three new vg are added. > > I would like to know whether these removals are mistakes or not and > whether additions are really intended. > > 1) [removal] existed in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now missing in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) > > 1a) > < 2 2 (O 5CAB 岫) (O 5CC0 峀): vg > > ===> > >> 5CAB 岫岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB): indep. char. >> 5CC0 峀峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0): indep. char. > > 1b) > < 3 2 (O 5999 妙) (X 7385 玅) (O 7AD7 竗): vg of size 3 (3 variants) > > ===> > >> 5999 妙妙(5999) 妙(5999) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 >> 7385 玅妙(5999) 玅(7385) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 >> 7AD7 竗竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) : indep. char. > > 2) [addition] did NOT exist in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now added to C-LGR > (2016.07.18.) > > 2a) > > < 7200 爀爀(7200) 爀(7200) : indep. char. > < 8D6B 赫赫(8D6B) 赫(8D6B) : indep. char. > > ===> > >> 2 2 (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫) : a new vg of size 2 > > 2b) > > < 757A 畺畺(757A) 畺(757A) : indep. char. > < 7586 疆疆(7586) 疆(7586) : indep. charf. > > ===> > >> 2 2 (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆) : a new vg. of size 2 > > 2C) > < 3960 㥠㥠(3960) 㥠(3960) : indep. char. > < 8ADD 諝谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 > < 8ADD 諝谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 > > ===> > >> 3 2 (O 3960 㥠) (O 8ADD 諝) (X 8C1E 谞) : a new vg of size 3 > > * * * > > Thanks in advance. > > KIM, K. > > ------------------------------- > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear Mr. Wang Wei: >> >> I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.) >> >> In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC. >> One sample line is shown below: >> >> 5MSS 峌峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) >> --> >> 5CCC 峌峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> KIM, K. >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: >>> Dear Prof. Kim >>> >>> I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL >>> I have re-edited them in the attached document. >>> >>> Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR. >>> >>> So please refer the latest version as attached. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> WANG Wei >>> >>> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] >>> 代表 KIM Kyongsok >>> 发送时间: 2016年7月17日 22:26 >>> 收件人: chinesegp(a)icann.org >>> 抄送: JapaneseGP(a)icann.org; koreanGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok >>> <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> >>> 主题: [ChineseGP] comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.) >>> >>> Dear Mr. Wang: >>> >>> I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12. >>> >>> I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below. >>> >>> ==================================================== >>> Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors: >>> >>> --- 1 >>> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) >>> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) >>> >>> --- 2 >>> cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) >>> cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) >>> >>> --- 3 >>> cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) >>> cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor) >>> >>> --- 4 >>> cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA) >>> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) >>> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) >>> >>> --- 5 >>> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) >>> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) >>> >>> --- 6 >>> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043) >>> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043) >>> >>> >>> ====================================================== >>> Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it. >>> >>>> Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant >>>> character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, >>>> 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, >>>> 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants. >>> >>> - Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant). >>> >>> - However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant >>> Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers >>> (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars): >>> >>> a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 >>> b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415 >>> >>> Plz correct me if I am wrong. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Rgds, >>> >>> -- >>> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ChineseGP mailing list >>> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp >> >> >> >> -- >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok > > > > -- > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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Re: [Japanesegp] comments (3) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.), Q4 and Q5.
by KIM Kyongsok July 19, 2016

July 19, 2016

Dear Mr. Wang Wei: I am making progress ^-^ and noticed some more errors/changes. ================================================================ Q3 (My previous message RE: MSS --> CCC) ================================================================= Q4. This seems minor too. I notices that CJK compatibility paren was used instead of regular ASCII paren. There were 2 occurrences in one line. I would like to suggest that "）" (CJK compatibility paren) --> ")" (ASCII paren). [ 2 occurrences in one line] 83B5 莵菟(83DF）菟(83DF）莵(83B5)菟(83DF) --> 83B5 莵菟(83DF) 菟(83DF) 莵(83B5)菟(83DF) ================================================================= Q5: I compared variant groups in C-LGR (2015.04.30.) and vg in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) and noticed some two variant groups (vg) were removed and three new vg are added. I would like to know whether these removals are mistakes or not and whether additions are really intended. 1) [removal] existed in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now missing in C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 1a) < 2 2 (O 5CAB 岫) (O 5CC0 峀): vg ===> > 5CAB 岫岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB) 岫(5CAB): indep. char. > 5CC0 峀峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0) 峀(5CC0): indep. char. 1b) < 3 2 (O 5999 妙) (X 7385 玅) (O 7AD7 竗): vg of size 3 (3 variants) ===> > 5999 妙妙(5999) 妙(5999) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 > 7385 玅妙(5999) 玅(7385) 妙(5999)玅(7385): vg of size 2 > 7AD7 竗竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) 竗(7AD7) : indep. char. 2) [addition] did NOT exist in C-LGR (2015.04.30.); now added to C-LGR (2016.07.18.) 2a) < 7200 爀爀(7200) 爀(7200) : indep. char. < 8D6B 赫赫(8D6B) 赫(8D6B) : indep. char. ===> > 2 2 (O 7200 爀) (O 8D6B 赫) : a new vg of size 2 2b) < 757A 畺畺(757A) 畺(757A) : indep. char. < 7586 疆疆(7586) 疆(7586) : indep. charf. ===> > 2 2 (O 757A 畺) (O 7586 疆) : a new vg. of size 2 2C) < 3960 㥠㥠(3960) 㥠(3960) : indep. char. < 8ADD 諝谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 < 8ADD 諝谞(8C1E) 諝(8ADD) : a vg. of size 2 ===> > 3 2 (O 3960 㥠) (O 8ADD 諝) (X 8C1E 谞) : a new vg of size 3 * * * Thanks in advance. KIM, K. ------------------------------- On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Mr. Wang Wei: > > I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.) > > In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC. > One sample line is shown below: > > 5MSS 峌峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) > --> > 5CCC 峌峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) > > Thanks in advance. > > KIM, K. > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: >> Dear Prof. Kim >> >> I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL >> I have re-edited them in the attached document. >> >> Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR. >> >> So please refer the latest version as attached. >> >> >> >> Regards >> WANG Wei >> >> >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 KIM Kyongsok >> 发送时间: 2016年7月17日 22:26 >> 收件人: chinesegp(a)icann.org >> 抄送: JapaneseGP(a)icann.org; koreanGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> >> 主题: [ChineseGP] comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.) >> >> Dear Mr. Wang: >> >> I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12. >> >> I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below. >> >> ==================================================== >> Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors: >> >> --- 1 >> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) >> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) >> >> --- 2 >> cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) >> cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) >> >> --- 3 >> cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) >> cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor) >> >> --- 4 >> cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA) >> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) >> cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) >> >> --- 5 >> cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) >> cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) >> >> --- 6 >> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043) >> cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043) >> >> >> ====================================================== >> Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it. >> >>> Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant >>> character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, >>> 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, >>> 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants. >> >> - Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant). >> >> - However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant >> Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers >> (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars): >> >> a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 >> b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415 >> >> Plz correct me if I am wrong. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Rgds, >> >> -- >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >> _______________________________________________ >> ChineseGP mailing list >> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp > > > > -- > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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comments (2) RE: C-LGR (2016.07.18.)
by KIM Kyongsok July 19, 2016

July 19, 2016

Dear Mr. Wang Wei: I seem to have found some minor errors in your C-LGR (2016.07.18.) In 9 lines (24 occurrences), MSS need be changed to CCC. One sample line is shown below: 5MSS 峌峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) 峌(5MSS) --> 5CCC 峌峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) 峌(5CCC) Thanks in advance. KIM, K. On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 7:01 PM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: > Dear Prof. Kim > > I checked these chars and confirm that there are some coding error/editorial error in the EXCEL > I have re-edited them in the attached document. > > Also, I excluded the char of 58B5 which is not in MSR. > > So please refer the latest version as attached. > > > > Regards > WANG Wei > > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 KIM Kyongsok > 发送时间: 2016年7月17日 22:26 > 收件人: chinesegp(a)icann.org > 抄送: JapaneseGP(a)icann.org; koreanGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> > 主题: [ChineseGP] comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.) > > Dear Mr. Wang: > > I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12. > > I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below. > > ==================================================== > Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors: > > --- 1 > cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) > cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) > > --- 2 > cvg_0: (5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) > cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) > > --- 3 > cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) > cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor) > > --- 4 > cvg_0:击(51FB) (6483) 擊(64CA) > cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) > cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) > > --- 5 > cvg_0: (5378) 缷(7F37) > cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) > > --- 6 > cvg_0:沣(6CA3) (7043) > cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043) > > > ====================================================== > Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it. > >> Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant >> character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, >> 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, >> 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants. > > - Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant). > > - However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant > Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers > (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars): > > a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 > b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415 > > Plz correct me if I am wrong. > > Thanks in advance. > > Rgds, > > -- > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok > _______________________________________________ > ChineseGP mailing list > ChineseGP(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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comments (1) RE: C-LGR (2016.06.12.)
by KIM Kyongsok July 18, 2016

July 18, 2016

Dear Mr. Wang: I started analyzing your variant groups published on 2016.06.12. I seem to have found some errors and will appreciate if you would check two issues described below. ==================================================== Q1. The following six variant groups seem to have some errors: --- 1 cvg_0:��(5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) --- 2 cvg_0:��(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) cvg_0:嫔(5AD4) 嬪(5B2A) --- 3 cvg_0:䑃(4443) 朦(6726) OOO (sorted) cvg_0:朦(6726) 䑃(4443) XXX (NOT sorted, minor) --- 4 cvg_0:击(51FB) ��(6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) cvg_0:击(51FB) 撃(6483) 擊(64CA) --- 5 cvg_0:��(5378) 缷(7F37) cvg_0:卸(5378) 缷(7F37) --- 6 cvg_0:沣(6CA3) ��(7043) cvg_0:沣(6CA3) 灃(7043) ====================================================== Q2. I wonder if the following information RE: 3103 variant groups is correct. I will appreciate if you would check it. > Among 19738 characters, 3103 of them have non-reflexive variant > character(s), including 2214 with 1 variant, 545 with 2 variants, > 200 with 3 variants, 89 with 4 variants, 36 with 5 variants, > 14 with 6 variants, 4 with 7 variants, 1 with 8 variants. - Based on your info, there should be 3103 variant groups and 12075 independent char (i.e., char with NO variant). - However, my initial "rough" analysis of <column G, All Variant Mappings> of Appendix C file seems quite different from your numbers (i.e., 3103 var. groups and 12075 indep. chars): a) # indep. chars: 11684 (<-- your number is 12075), diff = 391 b) # var. groups: 3518 (<-- your number is 3103), diff = 415 Plz correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance. Rgds, -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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