Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP
Sure Mirjana, We can develop a draft for Latin GP to review. Comparing document versions may not work as some sections were re-structured. However, we will try to document all the changes from the previous version submitted to the IP. Regards, Sarmad From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:39 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Sarmad, Is it possible that Pitinan provide such document. One possibility is to compare two documents and find differences. After that we can add rationale. I shall not be available next Thursday for a meeting, I’ll be travelling. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Reply to: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 18:34 To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. Regards, Sarmad
Dear Mirjana, and all, I used the word document to compare the version 6 and version 5 of the main document and provided the red-line version (proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-v6-redline.docx) as attached. It might be a little hard to see all changes as we have restructure some of the sections. Therefore, here are the list of changes: 1. Adding 4 more code points to the repertoire from two languages (Serer, Kpelle) * 0260 ɠ LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK Kpelle * 0188 ƈ LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH HOOK Serer * 01A5 ƥ LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH HOOK Serer * 01AD ƭ LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH HOOK Serer 2. With point #1: * Two references added for Serer and Kpelle language in the main document * Appendix B was updated with additional languages. * Appendix C was updated with additional code points. 3. Move the Variants Pairs Due to Transitivity to be section 6.5 4. Adding variant mapping for Latin Small Letter S (0073) and Malayalam Letter Tta (0D1F) 5. With point #5: * The code point sequence 0D1F 0D1F also added in the set of double S * Appendix D.7 Generic Glyphs was updated, Adding 0D1F to S-Shape set. 6. Other editorial changes. In addition, the GP has conducted the additional variant set based on the additional code points and the Malayalam Letter Tta. The analysis table has not been included in the version 6 yet. It might be useful to also share the analysis detail to the IP along with this message. Please find attached the sheet (Additional Variant Candidates.xlsx). Kindly let us know if any further information should be included. We are planning to share the message and the attachments with the IP on Tuesday 18 May. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:11 AM To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP Sure Mirjana, We can develop a draft for Latin GP to review. Comparing document versions may not work as some sections were re-structured. However, we will try to document all the changes from the previous version submitted to the IP. Regards, Sarmad From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:39 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Sarmad, Is it possible that Pitinan provide such document. One possibility is to compare two documents and find differences. After that we can add rationale. I shall not be available next Thursday for a meeting, I’ll be travelling. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Reply to: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 18:34 To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. Regards, Sarmad
Hi Pitinan, There were a couple of cases where we considered the IP's comments from our previous draft, but decided not to go with their suggestion. Those are, I believe, noted in our working version of their review. It might be good to note these explicitly for them, since they would not result in any red-line changes in our document. Bill . On Monday, May 17, 2021, 11:36:02 AM PDT, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: #yiv5859167099 #yiv5859167099 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5859167099 #yiv5859167099 p.yiv5859167099MsoNormal, #yiv5859167099 li.yiv5859167099MsoNormal, #yiv5859167099 div.yiv5859167099MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv5859167099 p.yiv5859167099MsoListParagraph, #yiv5859167099 li.yiv5859167099MsoListParagraph, #yiv5859167099 div.yiv5859167099MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv5859167099 span.yiv5859167099EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5859167099 .yiv5859167099MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv5859167099 div.yiv5859167099WordSection1 {}#yiv5859167099 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5859167099 ol {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv5859167099 ul {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv5859167099 Dear Mirjana, and all, I used the word document to compare the version 6 and version 5 of the main document and provided the red-line version (proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-v6-redline.docx) as attached. It might be a little hard to see all changes as we have restructure some of the sections. Therefore, here are the list of changes: - Adding 4 more code points to the repertoire from two languages (Serer, Kpelle) - 0260 ɠ LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK Kpelle - 0188 ƈ LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH HOOK Serer - 01A5 ƥ LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH HOOK Serer - 01AD ƭ LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH HOOK Serer - With point #1: - Two references added for Serer and Kpelle language in the main document - Appendix B was updated with additional languages. - Appendix C was updated with additional code points. - Move theVariants Pairs Due to Transitivity to be section 6.5 - Adding variant mapping for Latin Small Letter S (0073) and Malayalam Letter Tta (0D1F) - With point #5: - The code point sequence 0D1F 0D1F also added in the set of double S - Appendix D.7 Generic Glyphs was updated, Adding 0D1F to S-Shape set. - Other editorial changes. In addition, the GP has conducted the additional variant set based on the additional code points and the Malayalam Letter Tta. The analysis table has not been included in the version 6 yet. It might be useful to also share the analysis detail to the IP along with this message. Please find attached the sheet (Additional Variant Candidates.xlsx). Kindly let us know if any further information should be included. We are planning to share the message and the attachments with the IP on Tuesday 18 May. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:11 AM To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP Sure Mirjana, We can develop a draft for Latin GP to review. Comparing document versions may not work as some sections were re-structured. However, we will try to document all the changes from the previous version submitted to the IP. Regards, Sarmad From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:39 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Sarmad, Is it possible that Pitinan provide such document. One possibility is to compare two documents and find differences. After that we can add rationale. I shall not be available next Thursday for a meeting, I’ll be travelling. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Reply to: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 18:34 To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. Regards, Sarmad _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Dear Pitinan, I cannot remember any other changes. Bill, I don’t think that it is necessary to send more data to IP than they asked. I agree to send the text that Pitinan proposed. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Reply to: Bill Jouris <b_jouris@yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 00:35 To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org>, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP Hi Pitinan, There were a couple of cases where we considered the IP's comments from our previous draft, but decided not to go with their suggestion. Those are, I believe, noted in our working version of their review. It might be good to note these explicitly for them, since they would not result in any red-line changes in our document. Bill . On Monday, May 17, 2021, 11:36:02 AM PDT, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: Dear Mirjana, and all, I used the word document to compare the version 6 and version 5 of the main document and provided the red-line version (proposal-latin-lgr-29apr21-v6-redline.docx) as attached. It might be a little hard to see all changes as we have restructure some of the sections. Therefore, here are the list of changes: 1. Adding 4 more code points to the repertoire from two languages (Serer, Kpelle) * 0260 ɠ LATIN SMALL LETTER G WITH HOOK Kpelle * 0188 ƈ LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH HOOK Serer * 01A5 ƥ LATIN SMALL LETTER P WITH HOOK Serer * 01AD ƭ LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH HOOK Serer 1. With point #1: * Two references added for Serer and Kpelle language in the main document * Appendix B was updated with additional languages. * Appendix C was updated with additional code points. 1. Move the Variants Pairs Due to Transitivity to be section 6.5 2. Adding variant mapping for Latin Small Letter S (0073) and Malayalam Letter Tta (0D1F) 3. With point #5: * The code point sequence 0D1F 0D1F also added in the set of double S * Appendix D.7 Generic Glyphs was updated, Adding 0D1F to S-Shape set. 1. Other editorial changes. In addition, the GP has conducted the additional variant set based on the additional code points and the Malayalam Letter Tta. The analysis table has not been included in the version 6 yet. It might be useful to also share the analysis detail to the IP along with this message. Please find attached the sheet (Additional Variant Candidates.xlsx). Kindly let us know if any further information should be included. We are planning to share the message and the attachments with the IP on Tuesday 18 May. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 12:11 AM To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP Sure Mirjana, We can develop a draft for Latin GP to review. Comparing document versions may not work as some sections were re-structured. However, we will try to document all the changes from the previous version submitted to the IP. Regards, Sarmad From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:39 PM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Sarmad, Is it possible that Pitinan provide such document. One possibility is to compare two documents and find differences. After that we can add rationale. I shall not be available next Thursday for a meeting, I’ll be travelling. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Reply to: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 18:34 To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Early feedback from IP Dear Latin GP members, Here is a request for IP. Before doing a more detailed review, the Integration Panel would like to receive a list of changes and their rationale from the previous version of the Latin LGR. As the Latin LGR proposal does not have redline changes, developing a short document for identifying recent changes will help IP review the Latin GP proposal more effectively. 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Hi all, On 19.05.2021 09:57, Mirjana Tasić via Latingp wrote:
Dear Pitinan,
I cannot remember any other changes.
Bill, I don’t think that it is necessary to send more data to IP than they asked.
I agree to send the text that Pitinan proposed.
I tend to agree with Bill. I think there have been a few comments from the IP, where we decided not to follow their preferred suggestion. If we still have those decisions written down somewhere, we should add it to our report to the IP. This avoids confusion where IP could think we overlooked/ignored their comments while we actually did consider them and spent time discussing them, just in the end decided to not change anything. Cheers, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp
I concur. On 5/19/21, 10:17 AM, "Latingp on behalf of Michael Bauland via Latingp" <latingp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of latingp@icann.org> wrote: Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi all, On 19.05.2021 09:57, Mirjana Tasić via Latingp wrote: > Dear Pitinan, > > I cannot remember any other changes. > > Bill, I don’t think that it is necessary to send more data to IP than > they asked. > > I agree to send the text that Pitinan proposed. I tend to agree with Bill. I think there have been a few comments from the IP, where we decided not to follow their preferred suggestion. If we still have those decisions written down somewhere, we should add it to our report to the IP. This avoids confusion where IP could think we overlooked/ignored their comments while we actually did consider them and spent time discussing them, just in the end decided to not change anything. Cheers, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://secure-web.cisco.com/1IY81dbfIUzway-l0fmX2j0HHkPtwyLTcKd8imD3E28GlFr... _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://secure-web.cisco.com/1qv0tKz87aTnhBWASSxK_sObpUt0urDk8DK73U4O_TnLFf4...) and the website Terms of Service (https://secure-web.cisco.com/1eiMYYuLxZCZQeyRwhCUM93uJeb42MTp4D8kxi8JgLDmh9-...). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
I concur too Am 19. Mai 2021, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp <latingp@icann.org>:
I concur.
On 5/19/21, 10:17 AM, "Latingp on behalf of Michael Bauland via Latingp" <latingp-bounces@icann.org on behalf of latingp@icann.org> wrote:
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Hi all,
On 19.05.2021 09:57, Mirjana Tasić via Latingp wrote:
Dear Pitinan,
I cannot remember any other changes.
Bill, I don’t think that it is necessary to send more data to IP than they asked.
I agree to send the text that Pitinan proposed.
I tend to agree with Bill. I think there have been a few comments from the IP, where we decided not to follow their preferred suggestion. If we still have those decisions written down somewhere, we should add it to our report to the IP. This avoids confusion where IP could think we overlooked/ignored their comments while we actually did consider them and spent time discussing them, just in the end decided to not change anything.
Cheers,
Michael
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Agree to that Regards, Hazem Hezzah -----Original Message----- From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Michael Bauland via Latingp Sent: 19 May, 2021 16:01 To: latingp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Re: Early feedback from IP Hi all, On 19.05.2021 09:57, Mirjana Tasić via Latingp wrote:
Dear Pitinan,
I cannot remember any other changes.
Bill, I don’t think that it is necessary to send more data to IP than they asked.
I agree to send the text that Pitinan proposed.
I tend to agree with Bill. I think there have been a few comments from the IP, where we decided not to follow their preferred suggestion. If we still have those decisions written down somewhere, we should add it to our report to the IP. This avoids confusion where IP could think we overlooked/ignored their comments while we actually did consider them and spent time discussing them, just in the end decided to not change anything. Cheers, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland@knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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Bill Jouris -
Hazem Hezzah -
Meikal Mumin -
Michael Bauland -
Mirjana Tasić -
Pitinan Kooarmornpatana -
Sarmad Hussain -
Tan Tanaka, Dennis