REPORT URGENT: Implementation paragraph for R3.1
Team, On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows. *Implementation:* *This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.* During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe. Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC. Regards, Lisa
No objection Lisa! Erika On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisaphifer@gmail.com> wrote:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation:*
*This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Dear Lisa, No objection either. Thank you so much! On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:34 PM Lisa Phifer <lisaphifer@gmail.com> wrote:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation:*
*This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa _______________________________________________ RDS-WHOIS2-RT mailing list RDS-WHOIS2-RT@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rds-whois2-rt
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No objection. -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:34 PM Lisa Phifer <lisaphifer@gmail.com> wrote:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation:*
*This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
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Fine by me. I still think ICANN will have to address these information gaps sooner for compliance with GDPR reasons, but it is not necessary for us to do their work for them Stephanie On 2018-08-28 13:34, Lisa Phifer wrote:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
/Implementation:/
/This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted.The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn./
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there. Best, Volke Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
/Implementation:/
/This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted.The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn./
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Agree with Volker. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:21 AM Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation:*
*This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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I’m fine with the text including Volker’s proposed edit. Best regards Cathrin
Am 29.08.2018 um 10:28 schrieb Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com>:
Agree with Volker.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:21 AM Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote: Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer: Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation: This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards, Lisa
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Good idea. -Carlton On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:21 am Volker Greimann, <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation:*
*This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Agree, Erika Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Good idea.
-Carlton
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:21 am Volker Greimann, <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote: Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer: Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation: This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards, Lisa
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I spoke to Volker today and he agreed to the suggested change. The recommendation is to revamp the website WHOIS and Registration information. We are saying that it should not start immediately but to wait until we have our GDPR implementation reasonably understood. If we replace that with privacy legislation in general, it is an excuse for ICANN to delay the website work (which will certainly not be one of their hot topics!) since there will always in the forseable future be SOME privacy legislation coming. The Recommendation does have a date-triggered fallback, but it is not to do the revamp but just to fix pointers and cross-links. Volker was also worried about making sure that the content DOES address other privacy -driven issues other than GDPR, but the Rec alread requires that the content be revised AND then kept current as things change. Alan At 29/08/2018 07:07 AM, Erika Mann wrote:
Agree, Erika
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Carlton Samuels <<mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Good idea.
-Carlton
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:21 am Volker Greimann, <<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation:
This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Makes sense! Erika Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
I spoke to Volker today and he agreed to the suggested change.
The recommendation is to revamp the website WHOIS and Registration information. We are saying that it should not start immediately but to wait until we have our GDPR implementation reasonably understood. If we replace that with privacy legislation in general, it is an excuse for ICANN to delay the website work (which will certainly not be one of their hot topics!) since there will always in the forseable future be SOME privacy legislation coming.
The Recommendation does have a date-triggered fallback, but it is not to do the revamp but just to fix pointers and cross-links.
Volker was also worried about making sure that the content DOES address other privacy -driven issues other than GDPR, but the Rec alread requires that the content be revised AND then kept current as things change.
Alan
At 29/08/2018 07:07 AM, Erika Mann wrote:
Agree, Erika
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On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Carlton Samuels < carlton.samuels@gmail.com> wrote:
Good idea.
-Carlton
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018, 3:21 am Volker Greimann, < vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer: Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation:
This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
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Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The reference to GDPR is to control the timing of the implementation. We are addressing GDPR now. We have no idea when other applicable legislation may be addressed. If we make that replacement, we can almost guarantee that the recommendation as stated will never be implemented because it may be a long time before we understand how the more general case will be addressed. Alan At 29/08/2018 04:20 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation:
This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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So one member is in disagreement, and five members in agreement or with the change or at least had no obbjections. While GDPR is the elephant in the room being adressed right now, we should be very cautious about dismissing other relevant legislation around the world by focussing on only one. I assume that with regard to timing, ICANN addressing the GDPR will already take care of many other applicable privacy regulations, considering GDPR is one of the more stringent and forceful regulations. Timing should therefore not be affected. Also, we do have the fallback deadline in paragraph 2. So I do not understand your issue here. Volker Am 29.08.2018 um 18:46 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The reference to GDPR is to control the timing of the implementation. We are addressing GDPR now. We have no idea when other applicable legislation may be addressed. If we make that replacement, we can almost guarantee that the recommendation as stated will never be implemented because it may be a long time before we understand how the more general case will be addressed.
Alan
At 29/08/2018 04:20 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
/Implementation: / /This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn./
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Dear Volker, dear Alan, I support both Alan's point and Volker's intentions. Yes, GDPR should be addressed in a special way, but it makes sense to provide a working mechanism to deal with other national regulation. So can we leave original Alan's wording but add something related to other possible regulation? Thank you! On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:27 AM Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
So one member is in disagreement, and five members in agreement or with the change or at least had no obbjections.
While GDPR is the elephant in the room being adressed right now, we should be very cautious about dismissing other relevant legislation around the world by focussing on only one. I assume that with regard to timing, ICANN addressing the GDPR will already take care of many other applicable privacy regulations, considering GDPR is one of the more stringent and forceful regulations. Timing should therefore not be affected. Also, we do have the fallback deadline in paragraph 2.
So I do not understand your issue here.
Volker
Am 29.08.2018 um 18:46 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The reference to GDPR is to control the timing of the implementation. We are addressing GDPR now. We have no idea when other applicable legislation may be addressed. If we make that replacement, we can almost guarantee that the recommendation as stated will never be implemented because it may be a long time before we understand how the more general case will be addressed.
Alan
At 29/08/2018 04:20 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
*Implementation: * *This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.*
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Note that this is not a change to the Recommendation but to the implementation note. My rationale is: This is a recommendation to revise documentation. I was trying to protect against ICANN saying there is still other legislation we have not fully addressed, so we will not clean up the documentation. We are already saying they need to keep it up to date as things change, so I was suggesting that clarity on GDPR is sufficient to trigger the re-write effort. If things change later due to other legislation, it will have to be kept up to date. If as you say GDPR is going to cover the bulk of things, then there is even less of an issue. I will bring this to the rest of the leadership team that is meeting later today. Alan At 30/08/2018 04:27 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
So one member is in disagreement, and five members in agreement or with the change or at least had no obbjections.
While GDPR is the elephant in the room being adressed right now, we should be very cautious about dismissing other relevant legislation around the world by focussing on only one. I assume that with regard to timing, ICANN addressing the GDPR will already take care of many other applicable privacy regulations, considering GDPR is one of the more stringent and forceful regulations. Timing should therefore not be affected. Also, we do have the fallback deadline in paragraph 2.
So I do not understand your issue here.
Volker
Am 29.08.2018 um 18:46 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. The reference to GDPR is to control the timing of the implementation. We are addressing GDPR now. We have no idea when other applicable legislation may be addressed. If we make that replacement, we can almost guarantee that the recommendation as stated will never be implemented because it may be a long time before we understand how the more general case will be addressed.
Alan
At 29/08/2018 04:20 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
Could we replace GDPR by "applicable privacy regulations"? Seems to be more fitting as it takes into account that there is more than the GDPR out there.
Best,
Volke
Am 28.08.2018 um 19:34 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Team,
On behalf of Alan, please be advised that the implementation timeframe for R3.1 has been clarified as follows.
Implementation:
This recommendation should ideally be implemented post-GDPR implementation, but no later than [TBD months] after the recommendation is adopted. The implementation should begin once it is moderately clear how GDPR will be addressed with relation to gTLD RDS (WHOIS). Should the implementation of this recommendation be deferred past FY2020, the then existing RDS (WHOIS)-related parts of the ICANN web site must be amended to cross-link the various sections on the RDS (WHOIS) portal, ICANN Contractual Compliance, Registrar and ICANN Learn.
During copy edits, it was noticed that the first sentence still contained a placeholder [TBD months] and could be seen as duplicating and perhaps even conflicting with the second sentence. To resolve this, Alan has proposed deleting the first sentence and letting the second sentence alone address implementation timeframe.
Because this is more substantive than a copy edit, Alan asked that the RT be advised of this change. Any objection to this change should be raised to the RT list ASAP but no later than 29 August 23.59 UTC.
Regards,
Lisa
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Alan Greenberg -
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Dmitry Belyavsky -
Erika Mann -
Lisa Phifer -
Stephanie Perrin -
Volker Greimann