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Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] Meeting notes from 20180521
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis June 4, 2018

June 4, 2018

Dear SG, The revised version of the doc is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCpLpl9nkHq7D7Pf0gyJm7zSllVC9pLvsu_7YdJ… Please review it and comment at your earliest convenience. We will regroup next Monday, June 4 … same hour, same channel. Best, Dennis From: RZ-LGR-SG <rz-lgr-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, May 28, 2018 at 7:01 AM To: "rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org" <rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RZ-LGR-SG] Meeting notes from 20180521 With the corrected date in the subject line. From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 4:00 PM To: rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org Subject: RE: Meeting notes from 20180514 Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 21 May 2018. Please let me know if you have any feedback. Please note that there is no meeting today. The next meeting will be on 4 June 2018. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the explanation for single character TLDs in the scope document based on the discussion in the SG and in SAC052 DT 2 Remove item D from the scope, regarding the discussion on two-character TLDs DT 3 Remove items E and F from the scope, as script mixing is relevant for the discussion between GP and IP but not relevant for SG DT 4 For item G, four cases to be added for discussion and, in addition, the SG should also discuss how to address the variant labels already arbitrarily identified by the applicant for ccTLDs and gTLDs DT 5 Reformulate the question in item J to discuss when can RZ-LGR be applied? DT 6 Review the updated scope document and add comments and feedback ALL Dennis, you seem to have many action items to address. I am happy to help with any of the editing tasks, if you would like. Please let me know. These meeting notes and the recording of the session have been posted at the wiki page of the study group at: https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Study+Group+on+Tech…. Regards, Sarmad

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Meeting notes from 20180521
by Sarmad Hussain May 28, 2018

May 28, 2018

With the corrected date in the subject line. From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 4:00 PM To: rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org Subject: RE: Meeting notes from 20180514 Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 21 May 2018. Please let me know if you have any feedback. Please note that there is no meeting today. The next meeting will be on 4 June 2018. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the explanation for single character TLDs in the scope document based on the discussion in the SG and in SAC052 DT 2 Remove item D from the scope, regarding the discussion on two-character TLDs DT 3 Remove items E and F from the scope, as script mixing is relevant for the discussion between GP and IP but not relevant for SG DT 4 For item G, four cases to be added for discussion and, in addition, the SG should also discuss how to address the variant labels already arbitrarily identified by the applicant for ccTLDs and gTLDs DT 5 Reformulate the question in item J to discuss when can RZ-LGR be applied? DT 6 Review the updated scope document and add comments and feedback ALL Dennis, you seem to have many action items to address. I am happy to help with any of the editing tasks, if you would like. Please let me know. These meeting notes and the recording of the session have been posted at the wiki page of the study group at: https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Study+Group+on+Techn ical+Use+of+RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Meeting notes from 20180514
by Sarmad Hussain May 28, 2018

May 28, 2018

Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 14 May 2018. Please let me know if you have any feedback. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the Scope document based on the discussion DT 2 Read SSAC's SAC052 report in the context of single character TLDs for further discussion ALL 3 Review and comment on the scope document ALL Reading materials: * There is also a board resolution on single character IDN TLDs: https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2011-08-25-en#5 * SSAC's SAC052 report on single character IDN TLDs: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-052-en.pdf These meeting notes and the recording of the session have been posted at the wiki page of the study group at: https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Study+Group+on+Techn ical+Use+of+RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] Meeting notes from 20180514
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis May 18, 2018

May 18, 2018

Dear SG, I have updated the document based on our past meeting. Please review/comment to the latest version. Thank you all. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCpLpl9nkHq7D7Pf0gyJm7zSllVC9pLvsu_7YdJ… Talk to you on Monday. Best, Dennis From: RZ-LGR-SG <rz-lgr-sg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 8:38 PM To: "rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org" <rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RZ-LGR-SG] Meeting notes from 20180514 Dear All, Please find attached the meeting notes from 14 May 2018. Please let me know if you have any feedback. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Update the Scope document based on the discussion DT 2 Read SSAC’s SAC052 report in the context of single character TLDs for further discussion ALL 3 Review and comment on the scope document ALL Reading materials: · There is also a board resolution on single character IDN TLDs: https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2011-08-25-en#5 · SSAC’s SAC052 report on single character IDN TLDs: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-052-en.pdf These meeting notes and the recording of the session have been posted at the wiki page of the study group at: https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Study+Group+on+Tech…. Regards, Sarmad

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Chat notes from SG meeting on 20180514
by Sarmad Hussain May 14, 2018

May 14, 2018

----From edmon to Everyone: 10:03 AM hi ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:04 AM Hi Edmon, we are waiting for others to join ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:04 AM am on at GDD and forgot headset :-P ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:04 AM ah! ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:06 AM do we want to talk informally to set a course forward or are we good with where we are? its also tough usually when we stop for a couple of weeks and restart ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:07 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCpLpl9nkHq7D7Pf0gyJm7zSllVC9pLvsu_7YdJ4 73Y/edit ----From Pitinan Kooarmornpatana to Everyone: 10:08 AM All, I need to drop off. will be joining the next call ----From Mirjana Tasic to Everyone: 10:12 AM Sorry, I am late, I have changed time zone ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:12 AM No worries Mirjana ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:13 AM do we want to start with 3?/ ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:14 AM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCpLpl9nkHq7D7Pf0gyJm7zSllVC9pLvsu_7YdJ4 73Y/edit ----From sarmad to Everyone: 10:16 AM Single character SSAC Advisory: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-052-en.pdf Recommendation 1 of this report ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 10:17 AM ok. thanks. ----From sarmad to Everyone: 10:20 AM Please let me know if you woudl like me to share the screen and display the document ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 10:21 AM @sarmad .. please do thanks. ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:30 AM interesting... on first reaction i might prefer App providers (browsers) to refer to the IANA list rather than to the LGR... because not all allocatable is allocated for one reason... but good point lets think through that hmm if we would make recommendations to browsers, maybe its useful to consider MTAs and MUAs as part of that? ----From sarmad to Everyone: 10:32 AM this is a scope question? Do we look at use beyond the TLD application process? +1 to edmon on a separate bucket ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:38 AM sounds good can u elaborate what you mean by not already part of the RZ LGR and being used?... is that like this round where the RZ LGR doesnt exist but we allowed IDN applications? one could argue that ASCII TLDs were also not included so i guess the quick reaction would be yes we should allow, the question then becomes how we deal with the processing (allocation and delegation) of them ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:39 AM Yes, I agree. ----From Mirjana Tasic to Everyone: 10:41 AM I agree with Edmon, we should not disallow usage of scripts which are not in LGR ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:46 AM we should allow them to apply but we need to warn them that we might not be able to process it until that part of the LGR is complete rejected for allocation but should not be rejected for application? ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 10:47 AM @edmon ,, that may be a policy point.. however it might bring pressure on ICANN to process, and someone may critise for delay in process.. joint a point of view.. ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:48 AM but rejecting the application creates even more problem... again, today the new gTLD rounds are few and far in between, keeping an application out means years of potential further delay for that language... :-P but i gess if we are confident with the MSR enough... lets keep to that :-) ----From Mirjana Tasic to Everyone: 10:51 AM Two characters for GTLD is not allowed. Two caharcters are reserved for ccTLD. This is the present situation. I meant two characters ASCII ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 10:51 AM @edmon it may be not allowed to be applied.. so no rejection :) Lets discuss more.. i am not against it.. but i m always worried about Garbage getting IN and when we dont know how to deal with that.. ----From Dennis Tan to Everyone: 10:53 AM @Mirjana, you are correct. But what about two Latin characters? e.g. dé, rś ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 10:54 AM @Mirjana yes and I dont know if there is any limitation like that for IDN's , all coutries were issued there country names as demanded as IDN ccTLD ----From Mirjana Tasic to Everyone: 10:58 AM I don't have right answer, it should be checked for GTLDs, is it allowed to apply for two characters IDN GTLD. ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:59 AM i will be on plane next week, apologies ahead of time ----From Mirjana Tasic to Everyone: 10:59 AM Bye ----From edmon to Everyone: 10:59 AM bye ----From Ajay Data to Everyone: 11:00 AM bye

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