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RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time
by Sarmad Hussain July 17, 2018

July 17, 2018

Hi all, Using the right time zone this time, hopefully. This is a placeholder for RZ-LGR-SG meeting with PTI staff to understand the IDN TLD delegation process in the context of IDN variant TLDs based on RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Meeting with PTI (IANA)
by Sarmad Hussain June 25, 2018

June 25, 2018

Hi All, We have started the meeting. If you would like to join remotely, please let me know on skype (sarmad.hussain.icann). Regards. Sarmad

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Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time
by 王伟 June 25, 2018

June 25, 2018

Hi Sarmad is the meeting room EPIC at E10 floor in Hard Rock Hotel? ------------------ Original ------------------ From: "wangwei(a)knet.cn"<wangwei(a)knet.cn>; Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2018 10:36 AM To: "Sarmad Hussain"<sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>; "rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org"<rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org>; "Kim Davies"<kim.davies(a)iana.org>; Subject: 回复：[RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time Hi Sarmad and all Do you mind if I ask Alibaba send someone to join us? -------- 原始邮件 -------- 主题：[RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time 发件人：Sarmad Hussain 收件人：rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org,Kim Davies 抄送： Hi all, Using the right time zone this time, hopefully. This is a placeholder for RZ-LGR-SG meeting with PTI staff to understand the IDN TLD delegation process in the context of IDN variant TLDs based on RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time
by 王伟 June 19, 2018

June 19, 2018

Hi all Please ignore my last email. ------------------ Original ------------------ From: "wangwei(a)knet.cn"<wangwei(a)knet.cn>; Date: Wed, Jun 20, 2018 10:36 AM To: "Sarmad Hussain"<sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>; "rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org"<rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org>; "Kim Davies"<kim.davies(a)iana.org>; Subject: 回复：[RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time Hi Sarmad and all Do you mind if I ask Alibaba send someone to join us? -------- 原始邮件 -------- 主题：[RZ-LGR-SG] RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time 发件人：Sarmad Hussain 收件人：rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org,Kim Davies 抄送： Hi all, Using the right time zone this time, hopefully. This is a placeholder for RZ-LGR-SG meeting with PTI staff to understand the IDN TLD delegation process in the context of IDN variant TLDs based on RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Note from the scheduled RZ-LGR-SG call on 18 Jun 2018
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana June 18, 2018

June 18, 2018

Dear All, Kindly note that, as there were only two members joined the call today, therefore the call was cancelled. Regards, Pitinan

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RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62 - 11am Panama local time
by Sarmad Hussain June 15, 2018

June 15, 2018

Hi all, Using the right time zone this time, hopefully. This is a placeholder for RZ-LGR-SG meeting with PTI staff to understand the IDN TLD delegation process in the context of IDN variant TLDs based on RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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RZ LGR Study Group meeting with PTI Staff at ICANN 62
by Sarmad Hussain June 15, 2018

June 15, 2018

Hi all, This is a placeholder for RZ-LGR-SG meeting with PTI staff to understand the IDN TLD delegation process in the context of IDN variant TLDs based on RZ-LGR. Regards, Sarmad

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Meeting with IANA at ICANN62
by Sarmad Hussain June 15, 2018

June 15, 2018

Dear All, (adding Kim Davies) Kim is available for a meeting at ICANN62. The agenda is to understand the IANA TLD delegation process and how it may be impacted by IDN Variant TLDs. So far Wang Wei, Dennis, Gaurav and Dessalegn have confirmed to attend. For those who are planning to meet, how about either at 11am or 3pm on Monday 25 June? Please let us know if you are available at these times. We will finalize accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: RZ-LGR-SG [mailto:rz-lgr-sg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:12 PM To: rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org Subject: [RZ-LGR-SG] Are you planning to be at ICANN62? Dear All, Wang Wei suggested we meet with Kim during ICANN62 with regards to learning more about IANA process and whois, following the discussing by the SG. I wanted to ask others in the SG as well if you are planning to attend so that I can find a convenient time for all the members available. Please let me know if you are intending to attend ICANN62 and would like to join this meeting. Regards, Sarmad From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:04 PM To: '王伟' <wangwei(a)knet.cn <mailto:wangwei@knet.cn> > Subject: RE: [Ext] Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] Application of RZ-LGR Study Group - 20180604 Dear Wang Wei, Yes, I am planning to be at ICANN62. It is a good idea to meet with Kim regarding the IANA process and whois system in the context of the discussion by RZ-LGR-SG. I will request for some time from Kim. Regards, Sarmad

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Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] [Ext] Re: Meeting with IANA at ICANN62
by Sarmad Hussain June 15, 2018

June 15, 2018

Hi Dr. Data. This is not a formally scheduled session so there will not be any remote participation facility. I could add you to the meeting through Skype. Regards, Sarmad From: Dr. Ajay DATA [mailto:ajay@data.in] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 3:42 AM To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>; rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org; Kim Davies <kim.davies(a)iana.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] Meeting with IANA at ICANN62 As I am not able to attend ICANN62 physically, will it be possible to have remote participation ? Thanks. On 14 June 2018 03:24:05 GMT-07:00, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> > wrote: Dear All, (adding Kim Davies) Kim is available for a meeting at ICANN62. The agenda is to understand the IANA TLD delegation process and how it may be impacted by IDN Variant TLDs. So far Wang Wei, Dennis, Gaurav and Dessalegn have confirmed to attend. For those who are planning to meet, how about either at 11am or 3pm on Monday 25 June? Please let us know if you are available at these times. We will finalize accordingly. Regards, Sarmad From: RZ-LGR-SG [mailto:rz-lgr-sg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:12 PM To: rz-lgr-sg(a)icann.org <mailto:rz-lgr-sg@icann.org> Subject: [RZ-LGR-SG] Are you planning to be at ICANN62? Dear All, Wang Wei suggested we meet with Kim during ICANN62 with regards to learning more about IANA process and whois, following the discussing by the SG. I wanted to ask others in the SG as well if you are planning to attend so that I can find a convenient time for all the members available. Please let me know if you are intending to attend ICANN62 and would like to join this meeting. Regards, Sarmad From: Sarmad Hussain Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:04 PM To: '王伟' <wangwei(a)knet.cn <mailto:wangwei@knet.cn> > Subject: RE: [Ext] Re: [RZ-LGR-SG] Application of RZ-LGR Study Group - 20180604 Dear Wang Wei, Yes, I am planning to be at ICANN62. It is a good idea to meet with Kim regarding the IANA process and whois system in the context of the discussion by RZ-LGR-SG. I will request for some time from Kim. Regards, Sarmad _____ RZ-LGR-SG mailing list RZ-LGR-SG(a)icann.org <mailto:RZ-LGR-SG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rz-lgr-sg -- Sent from my Android device with XGenPlus.

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chat log from 20180611
by Sarmad Hussain June 11, 2018

June 11, 2018

------------- (06/11/2018 22:06) ------------- Edmon: dennis/sarmad do you have the link handy? Dennis Tan: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VCpLpl9nkHq7D7Pf0gyJm7zSllVC9pLvsu_7YdJ4 73Y/edit?usp=sharing Edmon: thx ------------- (06/11/2018 22:16) ------------- Edmon: not sure if i understood sarmad correctly, but i think it might be useful to distinguish between "variants" such as netherlands vs. holland, and IDN variants that is defined by the LGR, in this case the RZ-LGR... ------------- (06/11/2018 22:17) ------------- Sarmad Hussain: "variants" are by definition those from RZ-LGR. Others should be considered unique TLD labels? ------------- (06/11/2018 22:20) ------------- Dennis Tan: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-060-en.pdf Mirjana Tasic .rs: I hear you ------------- (06/11/2018 22:30) ------------- Edmon: so 2 specific suggestions: 1. beofre a generation panel is reconvened, the issue raised should be compared with what was already discussed in the generation-integration panel decisions/discussions from before, it should only be reconvened if new information is brought in ------------- (06/11/2018 22:31) ------------- Edmon: 2. do we talk about appeal against integration panel itself and how it comes out with its consensus position Sarmad Hussain: +1 Edmon Sarmad Hussain: (on Edmon's first comment) :-) Edmon: @sarmad understood, 2 was more of a question Sarmad Hussain: IP position is generally explained Sarmad Hussain: GP should be able to ask IP rationale for a decision ------------- (06/11/2018 22:45) ------------- Edmon: sorry, let me type then ------------- (06/11/2018 22:47) ------------- Edmon: suggestion is that whoever comes in with an appeal should present a technically coherent LGR (or part of LGR pertaining the lang/script) as a basic threshold Dennis Tan: sounds like a reasonable ask Edmon: yes agree with sarmad, we shoul dhave examples Sarmad Hussain: Developing an LGR may be too technical for somebody who is appealing Sarmad Hussain: especially from the community Sarmad Hussain: Though the entity appealing must make their case ------------- (06/11/2018 22:52) ------------- Edmon: hmm sarmad, also we might want to distinguish between an update of the LGR initiated by a renewed generation panel vs. an "appeal" Sarmad Hussain: good point. GP can start at any time Edmon: i guess i read appeal as a different thing, and for that we should set some tech bar, because a renewed GP can be convened for consideration of a number of codepoints without a particualr recommended change to the LGR already in place Edmon: but an appeals should be otherwise Sarmad Hussain: yes, agree Wei WANG: I agree ------------- (06/11/2018 22:55) ------------- alireza: thanks Mirjana Tasic .rs: Bye Wei WANG: thanks

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