Avri, Thank you for this very friendly amendment! I appreciate your help improving this motion. Best, Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of avri doria Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:46 PM To: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Revised Motion on Drafting Team/Empowerment Hi, In terms of the changes, I find it problematic that is still refers solely to modifying bylaws. I think most of the work will involve modifying operating procedures and thus the council should consider the following ammendment:

2. The Drafting Team shall comprise those volunteers from the GNSO community which are identified by their Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups who express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws. Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups are requested to identify volunteers by letter to the GNSCO Council Chair by 22 July 2016.

to 2. The Drafting Team shall comprise those volunteers from the GNSO community which are identified by their Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups who express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws _or GNSO operating procedures_. Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups are requested to identify volunteers by letter to the GNSCO Council Chair by 22 July 2016. avri On 29-Jun-16 00:00, Paul McGrady wrote:

Hi All,

Attached is a revised version (with track changes) of my motion which we discussed on Monday. Thank you all for your input into improving this. I look forward to discussing the revised version with you all soon.

Best,

Paul

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Heather,

As I see it, only the houseless NCA falls into this category

Not sure - a house is, as I see it, neither a constituency or a stakeholder group, as the whole concept of "houses" is, at least the way I see it, basically just a voting construct. But, again, I could be very wrong. And anyway, my spell checker keeps insisting "houseless" should be spelled "horseless".

but I assume any SG or C could nominate someone of their choosing (not necessarily someone from within the SG/C).

I guess so, yes - but (and now we are really getting into minor details, but...) can a NCA nominate anyone? Julf

+1. I never took the language to exclude NCAs, so if we feel the need to say this explicitly, then we should. Thanks- J. From: <owner-council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>> Reply-To: WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de<mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>> Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 12:07 To: GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org>>, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com<mailto:julf@julf.com>> Subject: Re: [council] Revised Motion on Drafting Team/Empowerment I'm not sure why there is uncertainty. This motion is related to the GNSO future. NCAs - as members of the council - are part of the GNSO. They should undoubtedly given the opportunity to take part in this effort - either being appointed themselves or appoint others. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Johan Helsingius<mailto:julf@julf.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:12 AM To: council@gnso.icann.org<mailto:council@gnso.icann.org> Subject: Re: [council] Revised Motion on Drafting Team/Empowerment Heather,

As I see it, only the houseless NCA falls into this category

Not sure - a house is, as I see it, neither a constituency or a stakeholder group, as the whole concept of "houses" is, at least the way I see it, basically just a voting construct. But, again, I could be very wrong. And anyway, my spell checker keeps insisting "houseless" should be spelled "horseless".

but I assume any SG or C could nominate someone of their choosing (not necessarily someone from within the SG/C).

I guess so, yes - but (and now we are really getting into minor details, but...) can a NCA nominate anyone? Julf

Dear colleagues, I support the friendly amendments proposed by Avri with some additional points. From NCSG's perspective it is important that the members of the group are appointed by GNSO stakeholder groups. How each SG will carry out their internal process of selection (consulting their constituencies, for instance) is a matter for each SG to define, of course. We also believe that it is important that the group is small and manageable. We believe that the best way to achieve that in a fair and balanced manner is to have a group comprised by an equal number of volunteers per SG. Please see our suggested paragraph below. We hope that these suggestions can be accepted as friendly amendments and we look forward to further discuss these points in our informal GNSO session tonight. All the best wishes, Marilia 2. The Drafting Team shall comprise an equal number of volunteers from and selected by each stakeholder group of the GNSO community. Volunteers should express interest and reasonable knowledge or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO operating procedures. Stakeholder Groups are requested to identify volunteers by letter to the GNSCO Council Chair by 22 July 2016. On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:

Paul,

"The Drafting Team shall comprise those volunteers from the GNSO community which are identified by their Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups"

Does that mean NCA's are excluded, or are NCA's considered to be their own 1-person stakeholder groups?

Julf

Dear Johan, Not at all the intention. To try to clear any misunderstanding, please see the proposed text again with a small tweak below. 2. The Drafting Team shall comprise an equal number of volunteers selected by each stakeholder group of the GNSO community. Volunteers should express interest and reasonable knowledge or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO operating procedures. Stakeholder Groups are requested to identify volunteers by letter to the GNSCO Council Chair by 22 July 2016. All the best wishes, Marilia On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:

Marilia,

"2. The Drafting Team shall comprise an equal number of volunteers from and selected by each stakeholder group of the GNSO community."

I am afraid that that wording would specifically exclude the NCA's from both being on the Drafting Team and nominating anyone to the team. Is that the intent?

Julf

You can. Please send your nomination (s) to me, and the ISPCP constituency shall forward it on behalf of the NCA. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Johan Helsingius Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:35 PM To: Marilia Maciel Cc: council@gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Revised Motion on Drafting Team/Empowerment Dear Marilia,

Not at all the intention.

Glad to hear. Thank you for that clarification.

To try to clear any misunderstanding, please see the proposed text again with a small tweak below.

2. The Drafting Team shall comprise an equal number of volunteers selected by each stakeholder group of the GNSO community. Volunteers should express interest and reasonable knowledge or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO operating procedures. Stakeholder Groups are requested to identify volunteers by letter to the GNSCO Council Chair by 22 July 2016.

I am painfully aware of suffering from sleep deprivation, but I don't quite see how that addresses the issue of NCA's. As the NCA's don't belong to any of the officially recognized stakeholder groups, it might of course be possible for one of the stakeholder groups to nominate/select one of NCA's, but the NCA's themselves could not nominate anyone. Regards, Julf