Understand Milton. But I still think it would be helpful to know what languages are needed now. More could be added later as needed. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gomes, Chuck; 'James Gannon'; 'cwg-stewardship@icann.org' Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach The problem is that this WG is required to be open and transparent. People may be coming in to it over the next month or so. How can they know whether they want to participate if there is a language barrier at this stage? How can they ask for translation services if they are not participating yet? Chicken and egg?

-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:38 AM To: James Gannon; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

I think it would be helpful if those who need translation services would identify which U.N. language is needed. That way we can pursue this possibility in the most cost efficient manner and maybe increase chances of succeeding.

Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James Gannon Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:13 AM To: cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

Hi All, Following up on the discussion on translation services that occurred on the CWG call on 6th October.

I think its valuable to initiate a discussion on wether the group feels that not having a translation service available is a barrier to participation and outreach and if so what can be done to alleviate any concerns in this area.

Personally I feel that this is a process that encompasses an internationally diverse group and that participation should not be functionally limited to those who have a working command of any single language. However I do understand the logistics of providing such a service come at a cost.

So is there a value in requesting translation (live or for the recorded calls) services to be provided to the group?

Please feel free to comment.

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Although I personally don't need interpretation services for the CWG meeting, I would appreciate if ICANN could provide translation of the documents that will be placed in the repository into Spanish. I hold webinars and list serve exchanges with ccTLDs in LAC and documentation in Spanish is a good way to facilitate outreach. Personally, I believe that all the documents that will be in this repository should be translated into the UN languages as a gesture of inclusion. On 06/10/2014 11:42 a.m., Milton L Mueller wrote:

The problem is that this WG is required to be open and transparent. People may be coming in to it over the next month or so. How can they know whether they want to participate if there is a language barrier at this stage? How can they ask for translation services if they are not participating yet? Chicken and egg?

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-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:38 AM To: James Gannon; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

I think it would be helpful if those who need translation services would identify which U.N. language is needed. That way we can pursue this possibility in the most cost efficient manner and maybe increase chances of succeeding.

Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James Gannon Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:13 AM To: cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

Hi All, Following up on the discussion on translation services that occurred on the CWG call on 6th October.

I think its valuable to initiate a discussion on wether the group feels that not having a translation service available is a barrier to participation and outreach and if so what can be done to alleviate any concerns in this area.

Personally I feel that this is a process that encompasses an internationally diverse group and that participation should not be functionally limited to those who have a working command of any single language. However I do understand the logistics of providing such a service come at a cost.

So is there a value in requesting translation (live or for the recorded calls) services to be provided to the group?

Please feel free to comment.

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+1 to the language options. However i think the charter should reflect this[1] and the languages to be supported be determine early enough. It may also be good to agree on what level of language translation is required (for the meetings alone or all other content?) as this will also determine the cost implications. Cheers! 1. Current charter does make mention of any language requirement On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Fatima Cambronero < fatimacambronero@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 Carolina

I am already one of the members of this CWG who asked for interpretation services. I am Spanish speaker. I think if I want to invite people from my region to participate and involve in this complicated process, we have to offer interpretation services in the calls and in the F2F meetings. So answering Chuck's question, we can begin offering Spanish interpretation.

Best Regards, Fatima

2014-10-06 11:50 GMT-03:00 Carolina Aguerre <carolina@lactld.org>:

Although I personally don't need interpretation services for the CWG

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meeting, I would appreciate if ICANN could provide translation of the documents that will be placed in the repository into Spanish. I hold webinars and list serve exchanges with ccTLDs in LAC and documentation in Spanish is a good way to facilitate outreach. Personally, I believe that all the documents that will be in this repository should be translated into the UN languages as a gesture of inclusion.

On 06/10/2014 11:42 a.m., Milton L Mueller wrote:

The problem is that this WG is required to be open and transparent. People may be coming in to it over the next month or so. How can they know whether they want to participate if there is a language barrier at this stage? How can they ask for translation services if they are not participating yet? Chicken and egg?

-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship <cwg-stewardship>-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:38 AM To: James Gannon; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

I think it would be helpful if those who need translation services would identify which U.N. language is needed. That way we can pursue this possibility in the most cost efficient manner and maybe increase chances of succeeding.

Chuck

-----Original Message----- From: cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship <cwg-stewardship>-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James Gannon Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:13 AM To: cwg-stewardship@icann.org Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Provision of translation services - Participation and Outreach

Hi All, Following up on the discussion on translation services that occurred on the CWG call on 6th October.

I think its valuable to initiate a discussion on wether the group feels that not having a translation service available is a barrier to participation and outreach and if so what can be done to alleviate any concerns in this area.

Personally I feel that this is a process that encompasses an internationally diverse group and that participation should not be functionally limited to those who have a working command of any single language. However I do understand the logistics of providing such a service come at a cost.

So is there a value in requesting translation (live or for the recorded calls) services to be provided to the group?

Please feel free to comment.

== James Gannon Director - Cyber Invasion Ltd

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