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Cyrillic GP meeting rescheduled
by Sarmad Hussain April 15, 2015

April 15, 2015

Dear All On the request of the chair today's meeting is postponed to Monday at 1200 UTC. I will circulate a revised invitation. We apologise for any inconvenience. Regards Sarmad

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 15, 2015

April 15, 2015

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Agenda for meeting tomorrow (Wednesday 15 April)
by Sarmad Hussain April 14, 2015

April 14, 2015

Dear All, Here is the proposed agenda for the meeting tomorrow by Yuriy. 1. the suggestions about including of the languages in "Proposal..." according to EGIDS levels. 2. discussing approach for forming the matrix "languages - EGIDS levels". 3. the propositions on terms (a fixed period of time or deadlines for any points) in "Work Plan". Please feel free to suggest any additions. Regards, Sarmad

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Proposal - table 3 and Part 1
by Vladimir Shadrunov April 2, 2015

April 2, 2015

Thanks everyone for the call today. There were some very good suggestions on the call on how to amend the Proposal document such as creating a comprehensive list of Cyrillic languages. I've reviewed the draft Proposal once again and I think Table 3 that lists the characters used in different languages should be removed for the time being from the Proposal document. This is all good work and we should definitely use it at some later stage, but inclusion it here can actually delay ICANN's evaluation of the Proposal. Further, I'm of two minds regarding the introductory part 1 (paragraphs 100 - 116). While it does contain interesting facts, I'm not yet sure if all of them are relevant enough for the purposes of this document. Would appreciate hearing others' point of view on this. So my input as a summary: - remove Table 3 - strip down introductory part 1 Thanks, Vladimir

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 1, 2015

April 1, 2015

Based on the Doodle Poll, Cyrillic GP meeting will be held every other Wednesday at 1200 UTC starting from 1 April 2015. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Notes from Chat Room during the call on 1 April 2015
by Sarmad Hussain April 1, 2015

April 1, 2015

Yuriy Kargapolov: let's wait 3-5 min and start Sarmad Hussain 2: ok Sarmad Hussain 2: Over to you. Please start when ready Yuriy Kargapolov: ok Sarmad Hussain 2: Latest version of porposal shared by Yuriy on email is being displayed Yuriy Kargapolov: thanks Yuriy Kargapolov: start confcall Dusan Stojicevic: Yuriy, we don't hear You Yuriy Kargapolov: who are hear me? Sarmad Hussain 2: we cannot hear you Sarmad Hussain 2: we could hear your earlier Sarmad Hussain 2: coudl you try to re-connect? Yuriy Kargapolov: i try reconnect Yuriy Kargapolov: i reconnected Dusan Stojicevic: Yes Yuriy Kargapolov: 2.1 Nelly Stoyanova (cell "Organization" in Table #6)2.2 Sanja Simonova - (cell "Languages" in Tables #6) + #7 and #82.3 Dmitry Kohmanyuk - Table #72.4 Yashar Hajiyev - Tables #7 and #82.5 Iliya Bazlyankov - Table #7 and #82.6 Sergey Povalishev - Table #7 and #82.7 Alexey Sozonov - Table #7 and #8 Sarmad Hussain 2: Request from Yuriy to fill in information by 2 April Sarmad Hussain 2: Circulate the working groups and their members for others to join Yuriy Kargapolov: request from me - o fill and give propositions to Plan until 8 Apr Yuriy Kargapolov: deadline of the Plan's points suggestions - util 8 Apr Sarmad Hussain 2: FInalize proposal before next call and discuss it in next call Yuriy Kargapolov: 1) i ask to notr - a lot of subject (material) already in our emailing Yuriy Kargapolov: 2) Vladimir proposal - finish the "Prposal..." up to end of April Yuriy Kargapolov: 3) pls, type your ALL prposals in emailing! Sarmad Hussain 2: 3 months for code point analysis Sarmad Hussain 2: https://www.ethnologue.com/about/language-status Sarmad Hussain 2: Integration panel recommends considering languages with no. 4 or lower on EGIDS scale Yuriy Kargapolov: my opinion - we should take into account ALL langs Mirjana Tasic: I support Sarmad's proposal, first we have to decide which languages shall be included in our work Sarmad Hussain 2: I recommend that this be done after the proposal is done Sarmad Hussain 2: during the analysis phase Sarmad Hussain 2: for code points Yuriy Kargapolov: i support Sarmad's proposition too Mirjana Tasic: So we shall not mention languages in proposal Yuriy Kargapolov: then consider and examine this aspect and return after some time Mirjana Tasic: I agree with you we can mention that members of the panel are familiar with which languages Yuriy Kargapolov: Mirjana, can u formate this proposition about "...not mention languages in proposal..."? Yuriy Kargapolov: formulate - sorry Mirjana Tasic: we can say , there are 108 languages that are using Cyrillic, mebers of the panel are familiar with some of languages Dusan Stojicevic: fine by me. Yuriy Kargapolov: support Sarmad Hussain 2: list of languages is a requirement of the proposal Sarmad Hussain 2: a reasonably comprehensive list Dusan Stojicevic: Also, we need a list of languages because we need to get the picture about the scope of the work and deadlines. Dusan Stojicevic: Also, we need a list of languages because we need to get the picture about the scope of the work and deadlines. Dusan Stojicevic: comprehensive list Sarmad Hussain 2: ISO language codes for these languages Sarmad Hussain 2: see the appendix of Arabic Script Genertaion Panel Proposal Yuriy Kargapolov: ок Sarmad Hussain 2: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/43976436/Arabic%20Script%20 Generation%20Panel%20Document.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1390426534000&a pi=v2 Yuriy Kargapolov: thanks, Sarmad, this material should be studied by us Mirjana Tasic: Sarmad how many months you have prapared Arabic script GP Sarmad Hussain 2: it took 15 months :-) Mirjana Tasic: That's why it looks so well Yuriy Kargapolov: :) Sarmad Hussain 2: I meant the final proposal Sarmad Hussain 2: this proposal took 2 months :-) Yuriy Kargapolov: I propose to discuss point 4 of Agenda in Panel's emailing Sarmad Hussain 2: 15 months for Arabic GP to complete their work, including the analysis and the final product Yuriy Kargapolov: Vladimir proposition - this issues should be discuss during the next stages of our work Yuriy Kargapolov: not specials cases -> only examples in this stage of "Prposal..." Dusan Stojicevic: Did I understand that we leave this 1.6 in Proposal, only as a examples? Because, Montenegro case cannot be included into our work during this year? Yuriy Kargapolov: it's one of propostion for future discussion via emailing Sarmad Hussain 2: If there are code points which do not exist in Unicode right now, you can proceed with your analysis without them Sarmad Hussain 2: once they are encoded by Unicode and are stable, the LGR proposal can then be reviewed Yuriy Kargapolov: yes, it's smart way Dusan Stojicevic: ok, superb. So, we should leave this in Proposal Sarmad Hussain 2: similar cases exist in other scripts as well Sarmad Hussain 2: would you all want to extend the call time to 1.5 hours for future? Dusan Stojicevic: yes, extend the call Dusan Stojicevic: because we need approx 1,5 hour. Yuriy Kargapolov: for future - yes! Dusan Stojicevic: yes, for the future Dusan Stojicevic: thanks, bye Mirjana Tasic: Bye Yuriy Kargapolov: bye

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 1, 2015

April 1, 2015

Based on the Doodle Poll, Cyrillic GP meeting will be held every other Wednesday at 1200 UTC starting from 1 April 2015. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 1, 2015

April 1, 2015

Based on the Doodle Poll, Cyrillic GP meeting will be held every other Wednesday at 1200 UTC starting from 1 April 2015. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 1, 2015

April 1, 2015

Reminder: (call details after the agenda) Agenda (as suggested by Yuriy - please feel free to suggest changes/additions): ====== 1. The discussion on paragraph 3 "Work plan". 1.1. Suggestions on the relevant addition subjects of work which should be included in Plan. 1.2 Propositions on the deadline. The decision on the deadline of "Proposal..." the preparation and submission of this doc to ICANN 2. The Tables #6, #7 and #8 data about the Panel's members. The deadline for this work. Personally: 2.1 Nelly Stoyanova (cell "Organization" in Table #6) 2.2 Sanja Simonova - (cell "Languages" in Tables #6) + #7 and #8 2.3 Dmitry Kohmanyuk - Table #7 2.4 Yashar Hajiyev - Tables #7 and #8 2.5 Iliya Bazlyankov - Table #7 and #8 2.6 Sergey Povalishev - Table #7 and #8 2.7 Alexey Sozonov - Table #7 and #8 3. The decision on the Cyrillic scripts number which the Panel will take into account during future work. This issue has been risen in emailing. 4. The decision on specific issues which weere described in point 1.6 "Some features of subject" 4.1. Montenegrin case. 4.2 Apostrophe case. 4.3 Using Uppercase and Lowercase 4.4 Diaeresis case What else we need include in point 1.6? For reach of sub-points should be determined the responsible persons and deadline. ===================== Based on the Doodle Poll, Cyrillic GP meeting will be held every other Wednesday at 1200 UTC starting from 1 April 2015. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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