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Agenda for meeting on 29 April
by Sarmad Hussain April 29, 2015

April 29, 2015

Dear All, The following agenda has been suggested by Yuriy for the regular (fortnightly) meeting of Cyrillic GP on 29 April (1200 UTC): 1. Variants on paragraph no. 1 2. Final count and approval of the "Prposal..." Please feel free to suggest any additional items. Regards, Sarmad

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Fwd: Character repertoire
by Yuriy Kargapolov April 28, 2015

April 28, 2015

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Cyrillic GP meeting
by Sarmad Hussain April 28, 2015

April 28, 2015

Based on the Doodle Poll, Cyrillic GP meeting will be held every other Wednesday at 1200 UTC starting from 1 April 2015. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Fwd: Character repertoire
by Vladimir Shadrunov April 23, 2015

April 23, 2015

In case people can't open .eml attachments I'm forwarding my email to the list as clear text. Basically, I proposed during the call today that with regards to character repertoires we need to stick to a process whereby at least two people are involved in compiling the character table for each of the languages. Another comment was that we need to list the sources used for each character table. It appeared that I am not aware who authored the character tables that were initially used as table 3, so I thought it would be good to first, make that information public, second, list the sources for the data and third, for somebody to review that the character tables correspond to the set of characters actually used in each of the languages. I agree with Yuriy these tables are very important as the foundation of our work and we should exercise due care and process in putting them together. Therefore whoever has participated in generating the character tables for Table 3 (Mirjana? Dusan? Gombo?) please kindly share your sources with the list. Personally I can be held responsible for reviewing the Russian character table only as it's the only Cyrillic language that I speak. Thank you, Vladimir ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vladimir Shadrunov <info(a)vlad.tel> Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:00 PM Subject: Character repertoire To: Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk(a)uanic.info>, Sarmad Hussain < sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org>, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs> Hi, To illustrate what I was talking about on the call today - I think we need to keep a proper record of where the Character repertoire is coming from. I suggest that we fill in the spreadsheet attached which includes the name of the author, the name of the reviewer and source of information. We then post this spreadsheet to the list for the record. Once this is done we will at least be able to judge if the process to generate those tables was robust. Sorry Yuriy, I wasn't able to capture all the names that you mentioned on the call - so if you can just fill them in - that would be quickest I believe. Thanks, Vladimir

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Final version of "Proposal..."
by Yuriy Kargapolov April 23, 2015

April 23, 2015

Dear ALL, Once again. Please, check ALL information which may concern to you as the Panel participant. ALL Tables, ALL paragraphs. REMEMBER - 4 DAYS ONLY. ---- Best Regards, Yuri

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Cyrillic GP re-scheduled meeting; Thursday 23 March 1200 UTC
by Sarmad Hussain April 22, 2015

April 22, 2015

Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Cyrillic GP meeting 20 April 1200 UTC
by Mirjana Tasic April 21, 2015

April 21, 2015

Dear all, I will support Vladimir’s proposal to ommit table 3 from the Proposal for the Cyrillic generation panel This table should be included in one of the documents which we have to create in the future. There are few reasons why table 3 should be ommited: 1. We did not discuss table 3 thoroughly, so it might be incoplete. 2. It is not good practice mixing in the same documents the tasks that the panel has to fulfill, and some tables that might be the results of panel work. 3. My opinion is that this table will create confusion if we include it in the very first document. Also I have mentioned in one of my earlier mails that „ new version of MSR ( Maximal Starting Repertoire) is published for public comment at https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/msr-overview-04dec14-en.pdf The first few lines of our document are the statements what scripts are the subject of our GP. Looking at MSR -2 , Page 11 the script Cyrs 221 Cyrillic (Old Church Slavonic variant) is not included in MSR because it is not recommanded for use as an identifier in UAX#31 „ I am sure that we cannot incude in our proposal the script that is not included in MSR. Reagrds Mirjana From: cyrillicgp-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:cyrillicgp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Vladimir Shadrunov Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 3:00 PM To: Yuriy Kargapolov Cc: cyrillicgp(a)icann.org<mailto:cyrillicgp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Cyrillicgp] Cyrillic GP meeting 20 April 1200 UTC Hi Yuiiy and All, So what about my proposal to delete Table 3 from the document (I think Sarmad suggested essentially the same)? I haven't heard any discussion in support or objections to this proposal. Does anybody else think it should stay in there? Thanks, Vladimir On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk(a)uanic.info<mailto:yvk@uanic.info>> wrote: Dear Colleagues, Please, find last version of "Proposal..." for discussion during confcall 20 April New points was marked by yellow color. Some information that I didn't received from participants were founded on the Internet and filled in the Tables cells, but not all. Please note - were suggested time-lines of the stages, finish scheduled for Dec 2015 --- Best Regards, Yuri Saturday, April 18, 2015, 12:28:14 AM, you wrote: Cyrillic GP meeting re-scheduled to 20 April UTC 1200. Adobe Connect – IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491<tel:4054049491> _______________________________________________ Cyrillicgp mailing list Cyrillicgp(a)icann.org<mailto:Cyrillicgp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp

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Cyrillic GP meeting 20 April 1200 UTC
by Sarmad Hussain April 20, 2015

April 20, 2015

Cyrillic GP meeting re-scheduled to 20 April UTC 1200. Adobe Connect - IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: List of International Dial In Numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… Participant Passcode: 4054049491

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Re: [Cyrillicgp] Cyrillic GP meeting 20 April 1200 UTC
by Oleksandr Tsaruk April 20, 2015

April 20, 2015

This is a private meeting. Your request to enter has been sent to the host. Please wait for a response. Yours sincerely, Oleksandr Tsaruk, Ph.D. 2015-04-20 15:11 GMT+03:00 Oleksandr Tsaruk <oleksandr.tsaruk(a)gmail.com>: > me too > > Yours sincerely, > Oleksandr Tsaruk, Ph.D. > > 2015-04-20 15:10 GMT+03:00 Dusan Stojicevic <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs>: > >> Same - Yuriy and I also waiting, Sarmad is the host >> >> >> >> On 20.4.2015 14:07, Vladimir Shadrunov wrote: >> >> Hi, are we having a call today? Adobe Connect says "waiting for the host >> to arrive". >> >> Vladimir >> >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk(a)uanic.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> Please, find last version of "Proposal..." for discussion during >>> confcall 20 April >>> New points was marked by yellow color. >>> Some information that I didn't received from participants were founded >>> on the Internet and filled in the Tables cells, but not all. >>> Please note - were suggested time-lines of the stages, finish scheduled >>> for Dec 2015 >>> >>> --- >>> Best Regards, >>> Yuri >>> >>> >>> >>> Saturday, April 18, 2015, 12:28:14 AM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> Cyrillic GP meeting re-scheduled to 20 April UTC 1200. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Adobe Connect – IDN Meeting room: *How to connect: >>> Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ >>> *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the >>> option to *Dial Out* to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember >>> to change the Country Code if needed). >>> After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, >>> please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. >>> To UNMUTE select *6 again. >>> >>> *If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via >>> phone: *List of International Dial In Numbers: >>> https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4054049491&num=1-719-… >>> Participant Passcode: >>> >>> >>> *4054049491 <4054049491> * >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cyrillicgp mailing list >>> Cyrillicgp(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cyrillicgp mailing listCyrillicgp@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> <http://www.avast.com/> >> >> Ova e-pošta je provjerena na viruse Avast protuvirusnim programom. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cyrillicgp mailing list >> Cyrillicgp(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cyrillicgp >> >> >

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meeting now
by Sarmad Hussain April 20, 2015

April 20, 2015

Dear Yuriy, All, I am having trouble opening the Adobe connect bridge right now. I will keep trying until it is opened. Sorry for the trouble due to technical reasons. Regards, Sarmad

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