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Doodle Poll for Recurring Meetings
by Steve Chan Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

Dear WG, Please complete the Doodle Poll at the link below to indicate your availability for the proposed recurring meetings times. The recurring meetings are expected to begin the second week of September. http://doodle.com/za2gf9c3vknct78q Best, Steve Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan(a)icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649

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Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org mailing list
by Edward Carstairs Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

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Threshold Issues: Data sources for IGOs & INGOs, Registrants
by George Kirikos Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Hi folks, Just to followup on our conference call, it might be useful if we had access to a database of IGOs and INGOs, which we could then survey in order to obtain primary research data. This could then be used to help answer threshold questions (such as whether the data indicates that the scale of any domain name abuse is sufficient to warrant changes to existing curative RPMs, etc). One link I had posted in the chat room was for: http://www.uia.org/yearbook which is a database of over 66,000 IGOs and INGOs. However, it costs $3,030/yr for an annual subscription (and it's unclear whether that database can be shared amongst multiple members of the working group). WIPO itself maintains a public Article 6ter database at: http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/en/6ter/ (simply clicking "Search" without putting any data into the fields yields 3027 records) Similarly, doing a search at the USPTO, via: http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/index.jsp (and then click Trademark Search, Basic Word Mark Search (New User), and then perform a search of "6ter" with a field of "ALL") provides a list of 735 such marks registered in the USA. TMView is another tool for researching marks in many countries, see: https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/welcome.html Canada's TM database is searchable via: http://cipo.gc.ca/ Of course, it is insufficient to simply survey IGOs and INGOs. We should also be reaching out to domain name registrants, to get their input/data on relevant questions (e.g. have they been accused of cybersquatting, have they received C&Ds, UDRPs, URS proceedings, lawsuits, whether those accusations had merit, how they used their short domain names, legal expenditures, etc.). There are tools to extract the contact data from the public WHOIS records on a bulk basis to form a data set, although I don't use them myself (as a domain name registrant, I regularly receive bulk mailings from others, though, who've obtained the contact info via WHOIS). There are tools like UDRPSearch.com to find historical UDRP cases involving IGOs, INGOs, and registrants of short acronyms, etc. PACER exists to find US court cases, although perhaps some of the law firms participating in this working group (or ICANN itself) have access to superior paid tools, like Westlaw, Lexis Nexis, etc. CanLII.org is a public database of Canadian court cases. I'm guessing most folks here are already familiar with sites like DomainTools.com or ZFBot.com to do research on domain names matching various strings. The OpenCorporates site maintains an index of corporations in numerous jurisdictions, see: http://opencorporates.com/ Perhaps others have ideas on additional sources of data that might be helpful to this working group. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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MP3 IGO WG - Monday 11 August 2014 at 1600 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Monday 11 August 2014 call held on Monday 11 August 2014 at 1600 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-crp-access-20140811-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Phil Corwin – BC Claudia MacMaster Tamarit - Non-GNSO (INGO) Dietmar Lenden - RySG George Kirikos - Individual Imran Ahmed Shah – NCUC Jay Chapman – Individual Jim Bikoff – IPC Nat Cohen – BC Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP Paul Raynor – Individual Paul Tattersfield – Individual Petter Rindforth – IPC Thomas Rickert - Individual Val Sherman – IPC Griffin Barnett – IPC John Mcgrann - RrSG Paul Keating - NCSG Apologies: Mason Cole - RySG ICANN staff: Mary Wong Steve Chan Berry Cobb Glen de Saint Gery Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 11 August 2014: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to first meeting of the new IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group on Monday 11 August 2014 Petter Rindforth:Hello everyone - looking forward to work with you in this WG! George Kirikos:Hi folks. Just about to dial-in via the telephone number. Imran Shah:Hi everyone,, Thanks George Kirikos:Hi Petter. I noticed Rindforth.com is unregistered. You might want to grab it. :-) (I sent an email about this a couple of weeks ago, not sure if you saw it) Jay Chapman:Hello, everyone! George Kirikos:Hi Jay and Imran. Thomas Rickert:Hello everybody! George Kirikos:Welcome Thomas. Imran Shah:I think we may hold a 5min for the remaining ones George Kirikos:ALl the SOI are on the website. Mary Wong:Please check and either create or (if necessary) update your SOIs here: https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg Mary Wong:You can see the agenda for the meeting today in the Notes pod. Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Do you wanrt SOI's for observers as well? Mary Wong:@Dietmar, yes please. Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Dietmar+Lenden+SOI Mary Wong:Thank you! George Kirikos:Should we go in order via the attendees list? Petter Rindforth:I will, by the next name Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:I'm not on the audio bridge but my statement is above Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Hello George Kirikos:Is youe audio working, Claudia? George Kirikos:You can dial in, if not. Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):Apparently not} Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Sorry Petter I'm not dialled in at the moment Dietmar Lenden - Valideus Ltd:Thank you Mary Nathalie Peregrine:@ Claudia, you cna dial into the audio bridge, passcode IGO George Kirikos:In the USA/Canada, 1-866-692-5726, code = IGO John McGrann:Hi everyone, unfortunately I have no audio at this time but I am working on it Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):I will have to call in. George Kirikos:Glen = ICANN staff George Kirikos:Imran? Are you on audio? Imran Shah:Can you hear me George Kirikos:No, you have to enable the mic. George Kirikos:Now we can hear you. Nathalie Peregrine:Claudia is now on the audio bridge George Kirikos:Jay? Jay Chapman:my audio is not working at the moment George Kirikos:1-866-692-5726 code = IGO to dial in George Kirikos:Thats what I use, and its reliable. Jay Chapman:dialing now Mary Wong:Thanks, George - yes, that is the US dial in number for many WG calls (though the passcode varies depending on which call you're dialing into). George Kirikos:(that's for Canada/USA; Nathalie sent a list of all the numbers for other countries. Mary Wong:Please mute your mics if you are not speaking. George Kirikos:Did we skip Nat Cohen and Paul Keating? Paul Keating:Mary, I am here as well but apparently not logged in. Paul Keating Mary Wong:Thanks for letting us know, Paul. George Kirikos:You can log in as a guest? Paul Keating:did not remember my UN/PW. :-( George Kirikos:No need for Username/Password. Nat Cohen:I am logged in as well as guest Nat Cohen:Nat Cohen George Kirikos:https://icann.adobeconnect.com/crp/ log in as a guest. George Kirikos:Paul: you can dial in by phone at SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 or 800-300-053USA 1-517-345-9004 or 866-692-5726 George Kirikos:with pass code of: IGO Mary Wong:Paul Keating and Nat Cohen's SOIs have been submitted and are published on the GNSO wiki page. Paul Keating:Paul Keating: Attorney since 1983 working in the IP sector. I have been active in domain names since 1999 and represent a number of portfolio holders and other service providers such as registrars and information providers. Nat Cohen:I am on a very poor internet connection. George Kirikos:We can hear you. George Kirikos:Nathalie just re-sent the dial-in instructions, in case folks missed it. Mary Wong:ICANN Expected Standards of Behaviour: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2012-05-15-en George Kirikos:Should we use Doodle.org to poll members on best day of the week and time for meetings? George Kirikos:Oops, I meant Doodle.com Paul Keating:Paul Keaeting: I would like to nominate Mr. Mason from Dounuts. I feel that it would be a good start to have someone from outside of the enforcement side. Imran Shah:Yes, Would you explain the Leadership positions, as you told two Vice Chair, Imran Shah:and what others George Kirikos:Perhaps we can defer the chair selection, until the mailing list can be consulted? George Kirikos:(since not everyone could make it today) George Kirikos:Someone's ringtone? Mary Wong:We will send a note to the full mailing list after the call today. Paul Keating:Could you please review for the group what is expected of the chair? Paul Keating:thank you Paul Keating:thank you Paul Keating:Mary, will the ICANN staff assist in providing research materials or are members of teh WG responsible for such research? George Kirikos:Do we have a budget? There is a yearbook listing IGOs and INGOs at: Paul Keating:I ws thi9nking mor ealong the lines such as soverign immunity issues. George Kirikos:http://www.uia.org/yearbook but it is very costly. George Kirikos:(over 2,000 Euros per year, and it's unclear if we can share access) Paul Keating:thank you Imran Shah:with reference to the Charter statement, as it is stated .... whether to amend the UDRP and URS "to allow access to and use of these mechanisms by"...... IGOs and INGOs, ,.. My question is that is it not yet Accessible to them or not? George Kirikos:Imran: That's not correct. UDRP has been utilized by the Red Cross in the past, for example. George Kirikos:Some IGOs/INGOs are concerned about agreeing to various jurisdictions, in the event that a UDRP/URS is appealed to a real court, though. George Kirikos:(i.e. some claim they have "immunity" from national courts) Paul Keating:Would ICANN staff kindly provide a summary of those already approved and those which are pending (and at what stage they are pending)? And, would Staff kindly undertake to update that information for the WG? Mary Wong:@Paul, yes and yes Mary Wong:For starters, the Final Report (and recommendations) from the prior WG as well as the Final Issue Report leadng to our current WG are posted on our WG wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/DrvhAg George Kirikos:There isn't one. George Kirikos:List of active GNSO projects at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active Imran Shah:Regarding frequency of meeting, I think weekly 2 hour meeting will become highly loaded, and suggest after two or more weeks. George Kirikos:We need data on the extent of the problem, to answer that. George Kirikos:So, that seems to be a threshold matter. Paul Keating:I would also suggest that we have a presentation by 1 or 2 NGO/IGOs so we can hear from them direcdtly what the issues really are. Paul Keating:I completely agree George Kirikos:Yes, Mary. I think getting that Yearbook would he helpful, as it lists all IGOs/INGOs. Paul Keating:some ideas for cattegories: George Kirikos:But, I'm not payin 2000 Euros to pay for it. :-) Petter Rindforth:Very good, thanks Paul Keating:number of UDRP/URS filings by IGO/NGOs and their outcome Paul Keating:Presentations by NGO/IGOs ato detail actual issues they face. George Kirikos:Mute your PC. Paul Keating:Number of NGO/IGOs with registered trademarks George Kirikos:Can't hear you.... John McGrann:Good points there Paul George Kirikos:Some Article 6ter marks are listed in the USPTO. Paul Keating:I could not hear all that Nat said. Imran Shah:One more question, should we have to meet in person at ICANN meetings ? George Kirikos:I didn't hear Nat either. Mary Wong:@Imran, if the WG thinks it would be timely, we can arrange for a meeting slot at an ICANN meeting - of course, full remote participation facilities will be avialable for those who are not prsent in person. George Kirikos:Nat maybe forgot to lower his hand? Paul Keating:my audio is not working for output Nat Cohen:George, I was agreeing with you that it is a threshold issue why the NGOs and INGOs Nat Cohen:yes - sorry, forgot to lower my hand Jay Chapman:I agree with Paul and George as well on investigating just what the problem/s is/are George Kirikos:The phone quality is very good, in case folks might want to try things at future meetings. Nat Cohen:I wonder about people's vacation plans during August Paul Keating:Also, can we set a time limit for calls? Nat Cohen:May be better to postpone the next call til September when most people will be back from vacations Paul Keating:Also, August is holiday time and I suggest we have the next call the 1st week in Sept? Claudia MacMaster Tamarit (ISO):On that note, I have other obligations to attend to. Thank you again. It is a privilege to join you. George Kirikos:Nice meeting you, Claudia. George Kirikos:We should definitely make sure that there is an agenda for each meeting, as sometimes it gets overloaded with admin stuff that can/should be handled on the mailing list. George Kirikos:(i.e. meetings should be for stuff that can't easily be done via the mailing list) Paul Keating:George, Can you mentione these points orally (I cannot do so). Pera is not apparently reading the c hat. Paul Keating:time limit, agenda and next meeting in Sept. George Kirikos:I'll try....raised my hands. Paul Keating:Thanks George George Kirikos:No problem. Imran Shah:Yes, I think we can resolve the time limitation through active mailing list, and sharing the informeation through maling list. Even, it is useful, if some one has some query or some comments, they shoould not wait for next meeting. John McGrann:Can we please set the time for each meeting depending on how often we are meeting?If we meet every fornight and have a scheduled one hour meetingcan be short? George Kirikos:Labour Day in Canada/USA is Sept 1st this year. Paul Keating:Mary, I think that you should only ask their availability for presentation instead of securing a date specifically for them to appear. We can then set it within the agenda. Imran Shah:So, next we have at least three items, doodle for meeting time, and frwquency, the information sharing and the election nomination and finalization for the Election dates. Paul Keating:Pera, please read teh chat. Mary Wong:@Paul, ok, thank you Paul Keating:agreed. Mary Wong:Note that this meeting was scheduled for 90 minutes. George Kirikos:We're coming close to the 90 minutes, by the way (so we might start losing some people soon). Mary Wong:Staff will follow up with a summary email to the mailing list plus a Doodle poll. George Kirikos:Great minds think alike, Mary. :-) Mary Wong::) John McGrann:Is there any way to maximise the chat area? Mary Wong:We'll look into it George Kirikos:Bye for now, everyone. Mary Wong:Thank you all Paul Keating:thank you all, and Mary Nat Cohen:Thank you John McGrann:Thanks everyone Imran Shah:Thanks Jay Chapman:Thanks, all

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Joining GNSO WG on Curative Rights Protection for IGOs and INGOs
by Imran Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Dear GNSO WG Members, My Name is Imran Ahmed Shah, belongs to Pakistan (AP Region). I just joined WG on CRP IGOs/INGOs. As per the given guidelines, I have posted my SOI on Imran Ahmed Shah SOI <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Imran+Ahmed+Shah+SOI> (https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Imran+Ahmed+Shah+SOI) I hope this email may serve the purpose of "Roll Call" Hopefully good coordination of the WG will help for the protection of Curative Rights of IGOs/INGOs. Best Regards Imran Ahmed Shah Founder & Executive Member Linguistic Internet Council, Urdu Internet Society Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan Lahore, Pakistan

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Reminder and Agenda for First Working Group Meeting
by Mary Wong Aug. 7, 2014

Aug. 7, 2014

Dear Working Group members, The agenda for our first meeting on Monday 11 August at 1600 UTC has been posted to the following page on the Working Group (WG) wiki for this Policy Development Process (PDP): https://community.icann.org/x/w8HhAg. In addition, the WG Charter has been posted, as have some background documents that we hope will be helpful to you as we begin our work. There is also a webpage on the GNSO website that provides the procedural background for the initiation of this PDP, including links to the relevant GNSO Council resolutions: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/igo-ingo-crp-access. The GNSO Secretariat will send a reminder note with all the relevant call-in and virtual meeting room details shortly. Thank you Petter Rindforth (GNSO Council liaison and interim WG Chair) and the policy staff members supporting the work of this group look forward to speaking with you all on Monday. Best regards, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session
by Nathalie Peregrine July 29, 2014

July 29, 2014

Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html If you are interested to join the next meeting on 7 August or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs(a)icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. Feel free to share this invitation with others that you think may be interested. We look forward to welcoming you at the next meeting! Nathalie Peregrine GNSO Secretariat

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Notice of first meeting of the new IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group
by Mary Wong July 29, 2014

July 29, 2014

Dear all, Please note that the first meeting of this Working Group (WG) has been scheduled for Monday 11 August at 1600 UTC (9 a.m. PDT, 12 noon EDT). We apologize in advance if you are not able to make it for this call, although we very much hope you will be available - do note that all future meetings of the WG (including their regularity) will be scheduled after the WG has had a chance to discuss the optimal time, day of the week and regularity of each WG call. As some of you know, the first meeting of a GNSO WG is of an introductory nature. At the moment, our tentative agenda is: 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Introductions - members of the WG to share information regarding backgrounds, skills, experience (especially as related to any requirements in the WG Charter) 3. Applicability of ICANN principles of transparency and openness 4. Election of WG Leaders - a Chair is normally selected by WG members at the first meeting of the WG. A WG may elect to have co-chairs or vice-chairs. Once selected, the WG Chair will need to be confirmed by the GNSO Council. 5. Items for initial review - WG Background Materials, WG Charter, GNSO Working Group Guidelines, GNSO Policy Development Process 6. Development of Work Plan: GNSO rules require that WGs develop a work plan that outlines the necessary steps and expected timing in order to achieve the milestones set out in the WG Charter 7. Confirmation of next meeting The GNSO Secretariat will send out a calendar invitation/notice in a separate email with call-in details, including details for logging into the Adobe Connect virtual meeting room that we will be using for WG meetings. Please look out for their email containing the information you will need to call in and participate in our first meeting! Please also let the Secretariat know (gnso-secs(a)icann.org) if you are unable to make the call. We will also be sending out to you the relevant Background Materials for your review and reference before the call. In the meantime, here is the link to the WG's webpage: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/igo-ingo-crp-access and collaborative wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsoicrpmpdp/IGO-INGO+Curative+Rights+P…. Both pages contain links to the WG charter, as approved by the GNSO Council on 25 June 2014. Thank you. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Welcome and roll call for PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs
by George Kirikos July 22, 2014

July 22, 2014

It has been nearly a week since this mailing list for the PDP on IGO/INGO Access to Curative RPMs has been created, and no one has posted. So, I thought I'd get the ball rolling with a "roll call." If you're a member of this mailing list, you'd have received instructions regarding creating a Statement of Interest (SOI) page. Once you've done that, feel free to reply to this email thread, with a link to your SOI, and that can serve as a "roll call" and introduction to everyone else that's participating. My own SOI is at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/George+Kirikos+SOI Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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