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Please post IRTP D transcript on calendar
by Julia Charvolen Aug. 26, 2013

Aug. 26, 2013

Dear Web Team, Please post the attached transcript on page http://gnso.icann.org/en/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/calendar#oct>aug In line, 26 August IRTP D Working Group 15:00 UTC Thanks so much, Julia

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MP3 IRTP Part D Working Group - Monday 26 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC
by Julia Charvolen Aug. 26, 2013

Aug. 26, 2013

Dear All, Given that the 2nd of September is Labour day in the US, the next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 9 September 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 26 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20130826-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Chris Chaplow - CBUC Avri Doria - NCSG Kristine Dorrain – NAF Kevin Erdman - IPC Angie Graves – CSG Volker Greimann - RrSG Barbara Knight – RySG Bob Mountain – RySG Bartlett Morgan - NCUC Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: James Bladel - RrSG Holly Raiche – ALAC Rob Golding – RrSG Paul Diaz - RySG ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Monday 26 August 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting on Monday 26 August 2013 Avri Doria:Hi Graeme Bunton:hello Volker:yes Avri Doria:Fun house not mad house Volker:thats what i meant ;-) Julia Charvolen:Chris Chaplow joined the Adobe Connect Julia Charvolen:Kristine Dorrain joined the meeting Julia Charvolen:Kevin Erdman joined the meeting Julia Charvolen:Bartlett Morgan joined the meeting Bartlett Morgan:having some issues...reconnecting shortly Julia Charvolen:Bob Mountain joined the meeting Bob Mountain:Sorry to be late Chris Chaplow:This is a common problem in the small business world in Spain Kristine Dorrain:good point, Volker...I didn't think of that. Kristine Dorrain:As far as that passage that I read, it came from this doc: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/rrdrp-04jun12-en.pdf Volker:"RTP-E" - say it, Mikey Volker:IRPT-E Bob Mountain:The saga continues..... Avri Doria:IRTP-week Chris Chaplow:No No Berry Cobb:Kristine, which page were you reading from the PDF? Volker:IRTP N+1 Kristine Dorrain:the footnote, Berry Berry Cobb:Thank you. Kristine Dorrain:see also 5.3 Berry Cobb:http://www.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints Bob Mountain:Volker can you increase your microphone volume? Avri Doria:Dreamer Mike O'Connor:argh! just cut out Kevin Erdman:yes, good summary! Kevin Erdman:Step 1--some clearance at Registry, Step 2--some interaction with ICANN legal Kristine Dorrain:And I know ICANN Legal/Compliance won't want to "hands" on each of these, so I think we would assume that this will end up being a part of their ticketing system Kristine Dorrain:yes..Registrar first... Kristine Dorrain:Good point, Barbara... Berry Cobb:Curious, what is typical quantity that Registries receive TDRP? Volker:we found that to be rather on the low end Volker:but it will likely increase if the process is opened up to registrants Kristine Dorrain:And the non-.com registries have handfuls... Bob Mountain:THat sounds right, it was very low. Volker:sure Berry Cobb:You won! :-( Chris Chaplow:leaving desk for a moment Berry Cobb:Charter Question D could be address by output of Charter Question C. The checklist before getting to provider could define the best practice, yes? Berry Cobb:scratch that. Kristine Dorrain:Thanks for your fearless leadership, Mikey. Volker:thanks mikey Graeme Bunton:Same in Canada Bob Mountain:Agree, we should cancel Bob Mountain:Au revoir all. Julia Charvolen:Next week call will be canceled Julia Charvolen:Thank you everyone Bartlett Morgan:take care all

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Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 23, 2013

Aug. 23, 2013

Dear all, Apologies for the very short email before. All information (incl. agenda and local times) for the IRTP Part D PDP WG meeting on Monday, 26 August 2013 15.00 UTC can be found here https://community.icann.org/display/ITPIPDWG/Next+Meeting. Very best, Lars

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For your review
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 23, 2013

Aug. 23, 2013

Dear all, Please find attached the draft agenda for Monday's meeting. Best wishes, Lars --- 1. Roll Call/SOI Updates 2. Discussion on Charter Question C <https://community.icann.org/display/ITPIPDWG/3.+WG+Charter> 3. If time, discussion on Recommendations for Charter Questions D <https://community.icann.org/display/ITPIPDWG/3.+WG+Charter> 4. Next steps / Confirm next meeting

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MP3 IRTP Part D Working Group - Monday 19 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC
by Julia Charvolen Aug. 19, 2013

Aug. 19, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 26 August 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 19 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20130819-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel – RrSG Chris Chaplow - CBUC Paul Diaz – RySG Avri Doria - NCSG Kristine Dorrain - NAF Rob Golding - RrSG Angie Graves – CSG Volker Greimann - RrSG Barbara Knight – RySG Bob Mountain – RySG Bartlett Morgan - NCUC Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: Holly Raiche – ALAC ICANN staff: Lars Hoffman Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Monday 19 August 2013: Julia Charvolen:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP Working Group, Monday 19 August 2013 Mike O'Connor:hmmm. i'm having trouble sending audio. i can hear fine. hang on. Julia Charvolen:sure Mike O'Connor:ah. i have a theory. have to drop off and reeenter though... Julia Charvolen:Angie Graves joined the phone line Bladel:Joining now. Volker Greimann:present! Bob Mountain:Sorry to be late Bartlett Morgan:Hello Again Bladel:Welcome back, Volker! Avri Doria:Can't hear will leave and come back. Julia Charvolen:Can you hear now Avri? Julia Charvolen:Rob Golding joined the meeting Bob Mountain:Kristine your volume is coming though very loud Kristine Dorrain:thanks Bob. This VoIP is new to me. I've reduced the volume, hopefully that reduces the volume to my mic too. Kristine Dorrain:I'm not disagreeing about court, Volker. I think there is a point in which it gets too complex for a simple dispute resolution policy. I wonder if jurisdiction has been dealt with, when there are "multiple hops"... Kristine Dorrain:the benefit of a dispute resolution policy is that some of those jurisdictional issues get dealt with... Volker Greimann:I am not saying we should gert rid of the TDRP Bartlett Morgan:sorry, I got cut off just now Kristine Dorrain:agree with Barbara...there is currently a six month statute of limitations...I wouldn't want to extend it any longer, but perhaps Kristine Dorrain:agree with Barbara...there is currently a six month statute of limitations...I wouldn't want to extend it any longer, but perhaps I didn't catch the reason for extending it Mike O'Connor:ah. good point Mike O'Connor:i'm not keen on opening TDRP directly to registrants Mike O'Connor:too much room for abuse Kristine Dorrain:What sorts of abuse do you see, Mikey? I'd love to explore this... Kristine Dorrain:PErhaps next call? Kristine Dorrain:thanks all Julia Charvolen:I will stop recording for you Bob Mountain:Thanks James / mikey

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Draft agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 16, 2013

Aug. 16, 2013

Dear all, Please fine below the agenda for the next IRTP Part D PDP working Group meeting, Monday 19 August 2013. Best wishes, Lars >> --- >> Proposed Draft Agenda >> IRTP Part D PDP Working Group Meeting, Monday 19 August 2013 >> >> 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates >> 2. Review of re-drafted commendations on Charter Qa >> 3. Continue to work on recommendations for Charter Qb >> 4. Next steps / confirm next meeting

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MP3 IRTP Part D Working Group - Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC
by Julia Charvolen Aug. 12, 2013

Aug. 12, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 19 August 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 12 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20130812-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel – RrSG Paul Diaz – RySG Kristine Dorrain - NAF Kevin Erdman – IPC Rob Golding - RrSG Angie Graves - CSG Barbara Knight – RySG Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Holly Raiche – ALAC Simonetta Batteiger - RrSG Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: Bob Mountain – RySG Volker Greimann - RrSG ICANN staff: Lars Hoffman Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Monday 12 August 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Working Group on Monday 12 August 2013 Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):hi, will dial in, in a mo Julia Charvolen:Sure, thank you Simonetta Batteiger:is it just me, or is audio really low volume? Bladel:Dialing in.... Julia Charvolen:Sound is not low, let me see if something can be done with the operator Simonetta Batteiger:it was a little better now... Julia Charvolen:@ Simonetta - Is sound better now? Simonetta Batteiger:yes Julia Charvolen:Thank you Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):I completed the poll :) Kristine Dorrain:Sorry for the delay. I"m here, with no mic yet...I may try the audio bridge. Julia Charvolen:Thank you Kristine, please let me know if I can help Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):How much more detail do we think woudl be useful in the TDRP reports ? If they're by registrar and say how many started and how many resolved (and therefore how many outstanding) , what else is needed ? Lars Hoffmann:https://www.adndrc.org/tdrp/tdrphk_decisions.html Kristine Dorrain:It's pretty easy for NAF to publish TDRP decisions. I missed the last meeting...are you looking for some sort of integration between Registry TDRP decisions and, for instance, TDRP Provider Appeals? Kristine Dorrain:That was us...we don't publish because we aren't directed to. Kristine Dorrain:There is no underlying reason why not to, other than we were awaiting the affirmative direction to do so. Kristine Dorrain:Sorry for not raising my hand, I'm trying to get my mic to work...if you want me to call in on the phone, I can. Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):Thanks, Mikey. Based on the provided link, it's clear that the data is pretty straight-forward. Including PDFs with the actual decisionmaking gets at the "content" concern I had, i.e. if people want to drill down they can, but the statistics can remain clean Julia Charvolen:Kevin Erdman joined the meeting Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):26th I'mon holiday, so wont be able to make the call, although will probably have laptop with me to access the adobe

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Attendance - note to GNSO Council Chair
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 12, 2013

Aug. 12, 2013

Dear all, Following the relatively low turn-out over the last weeks, the Working Group co-chairs were thinking of contacting the GNSO Council Chair to keep him in the loop. The discussion of the note will be added to today's agenda. Best, Lars ---- > Dear Jonathan, > > As the co-chairs of the IRTP Part D PDP Working Group, we are writing to you, > to bring your attention to the recent drop in turn-out for our weekly calls. > We already had to cancel one call since Durban and last week's call went ahead > with an absolute minimum of participants. While we had a productive meeting we > felt it appropriate to inform you of the relatively small number of active > members on recent calls. As a result, we would very much appreciate if in > your capacity as GNSO Council Chair you could find a way to encourage > Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies to urge their respective members to step > up their participation in this final IRTP PDP. > > For your information, the list of current WG members can be found here: > https://community.icann.org/x/HIJwAg and the attendance record here: > https://community.icann.org/display/ITPIPDWG/IRTP+Part+D+-+Attendance+Log . > > Many thanks and best wishes, > > Mikey and James > >

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Penalties for registries
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 12, 2013

Aug. 12, 2013

Dear all, I have contacted ICANN Compliance, following the Group's discussion on Charter Question e) "Whether existing penalties for policy violations are sufficient or if additional provisions/penalties for specific violations should be added into the policy" With regard to the penalty structure for registries, please see the response below (in brief it seems that the penalty structure for registries is not as nuanced as that for registrars): The current registry agreements include a broad variety of obligations (most of which are very technical in nature), spread through the body of the agreements themselves and their many appendices (up to 11). For most of those obligations there are no graded sanctions or penalties, which means that if a registry is in violation of any obligation, receives the 1st, 2nd and 3rd notices, is then issued a notice of breach and still doesn't cure, it could go to termination without any penalties in between. However, some of the agreements include an appendix specific to SLAs (service level agreements). These SLAs provide that when the registry operators fail to comply with their Technical and Performance Specifications, they have to apply credits to the registrars' fees, depending on the specification that was not met and the impact. The SLAs provide tables that explain what credits apply for each type of specification. See one as an example: http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/registries/info/appendix-10-08dec06 -en.htm . These credits, although not technically penalties, do affect the registries negatively. Best wishes, Lars

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For your review
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 12, 2013

Aug. 12, 2013

Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for Monday's meeting. Attached, please find the updated recommendations that reflect the Group's discussions on Charter question a). Best wishes, Lars Draft Agenda IRTP Part D PDP Working Group, Monday 12 August 2013 15.00 UTC 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Review of recommendations on Charter Qa based on UDRP rules 3. Continue recommendations for Charter Qb 4. Next steps / confirm next meeting

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