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Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Nov. 29, 2013

Nov. 29, 2013

Dear all, Please find below the Draft Agenda for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting, Monday 02 December 2013 at 16:00 UTC; or other places: http://tinyurl.com/pl2kwa6. Best wishes, Lars Draft Agenda 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Continued Discussion on Charter question C (TDRP), including instructions for the Drafting Team 3. Next steps / confirm next meeting

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Tomorrow's IRTP Part D Working Group Meeting
by Lars Hoffmann Nov. 20, 2013

Nov. 20, 2013

Dear All, This is a kind reminder that the IRTP Part D Working Group is meeting tomorrow, Wednesday, 20 November 2013, 10.30am-12.00pm ART, for other times see http://tinyurl.com/qbdh6tu in Retiro B. Please find the Draft Agenda below and the remote participation details attached. Draft Agenda 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Overview of WG Charter questions and achievements 3. Presentation of remaining Issues - TDRP (Charter question c) - Multiple Transfers (Charter question b) 4. Q&A and Community Discussion 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting Best wishes, Lars

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Dial in details for remote participation for the IRTP D WG meetings ICANN Meeting Buenos Aires
by Nathalie Peregrine Nov. 5, 2013

Nov. 5, 2013

Dear All, Please find below the dial in details for the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meetings during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. The meetings will be audio streamed, recorded and there will be a transcript available. For audio streaming please click on the link to the Adobe Connect on the meeting node below. Saturday 16th November - Update to the GNSO Council http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule/sat-gnso-working Room: Retiro B 16:20 - 18:05 Password: Update 2 · Wednesday 20th November - IRTP D WG meeting http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-irtp-d Room: Retiro B 10:30 - 12:00 Password: IRTP Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Kind regards Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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MP3 IRTP D WG - Monday 04 November 2013 at 1600 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine Nov. 4, 2013

Nov. 4, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aeres. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 04 November 2013 at 16:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131104-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Avri Doria - NCSG Volker Greimann - RrSG Mikey O'Connor - ISPCP Angie Graves - CBUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Kristine Dorrain - NAF Paul Diaz - RySG Rob Golding - RrSG Bob Mountain - RrSG Barbara Knight - RySG Kevin Erdman - IPC Apologies: Holly Raiche - ALAC Chris Chaplow - CBUC ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 04 November 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D Meeting, Monday 4 November 2013 Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):Hello all. I likely will have to drop off this call early Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):PS - great pic, Mikey Avri Doria:both voices soud like under water to me. Avri Doria:but i am on AC Graeme Bunton:Hooray! Bob Mountain:Has an invite been sent? Lars Hoffmann:http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-irtp-d Nathalie Peregrine:Remote Participation details for BA will be sent out later this week Mike O'Connor:also a history Paul Diaz (Public Interest Registry):I believe Barbara K plans to dial-in to the BA session Bladel:A bit faint, but I can hear you. Nathalie Peregrine:Rob Golding has joiend the AC room Volker Greimann:define recalitrant. it may be the case that the registrar merely sees the chances of prevailing in the TRDP differently Nathalie Peregrine:Barbara Knight has joine dthe AC room Barbara Knight-RySG:I have also joined the call. Thanks Nathalie. Volker Greimann:radical thought (bordering on the heretic) : could such issues not be better included in the UDRP? Avri Doria:or even URS which has lighter weight. Kristine Dorrain:That would be super radical b/c the UDRP only deals with brandowners Kristine Dorrain::) Volker Greimann:well avri, the urs has no transfer element Avri Doria:then again if they want it back, needs to be more UDRPish Avri Doria:exactly thought of it as i pressed return Avri Doria:i was wrong and backed off. Kristine Dorrain:I think it would/could be interesting to expore something more UDRP-like for registrants that do not own brands. Volker Greimann:indeed Nathalie Peregrine:Kevin Erdman has joined the AC room Avri Doria:i do nto understand this proposal Avri Doria:we are going to change the TDRP, but not change it? Avri Doria:seems a problem to me that if a registrant has her name hijacked, she them needs to pay big bucks before she even gets a hearing. Kevin Erdman:Avri, I think the first step is to change the form but not the substance of the TDRP Kevin Erdman:The second step would be to propose substantive changes Avri Doria:ok, clean it up and then deltas. got it. Volker Greimann:Avri: going to court can be much more expensive and that currentl is the only real recourse Avri Doria:Volker, nonetheless - while thinko fo remedies we should not compare against worst case, but should think in terms of fairness. Avri Doria:apologies, i have to drop off now to get to eht first IETF session. also for the BA session, there are conflicting sessisons, so it may be difficult to get a big audience. Volker Greimann:i may not be here next week Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):@avri - good luck :) Kristine Dorrain:Thanks James and Mikey! Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thanks mikey & james Barbara Knight-RySG:Thanks all. Bob Mountain:Thanks guys! Graeme Bunton: thanks

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Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Nov. 3, 2013

Nov. 3, 2013

Dear all, Please find below the Draft Agenda for Monday's Call. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars Draft Agenda – IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 04 November 2013, 16.00 UTC for other place see: http://tinyurl.com/plfv7gh 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Preparation of the Community Workshop in Buenos Aires 3. Continued Discussion on Charter question C (TDRP) 4. Next steps / confirm next meeting Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/

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MP3 IRTP D WG - Monday 28 October 2013 at 1500 UTC
by Julia Charvolen Oct. 28, 2013

Oct. 28, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 04 November 2013 at 1600 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 28 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131028-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Chris Chaplow – CBUC Avri Doria – NCSG Barbara Knight – RySG Volker Greimann - RrSG Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Holly Raiche – ALAC Angie Graves – CBUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: Kristine Dorrain – NAF Kevin Erdman - IPC Paul Diaz - RySG ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Glen De Saint Géry Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 28 October 2013: Lars Hoffmann: Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting, Monday 28 October 2013 Julia Charvolen: Chris Chaplow joinedd the meeting Julia Charvolen: Volker Greimann joined the call Avri Doria: I think if we don't give the registratn a right to initiaite or her own, we must have a forcing function. Avri Doria: willwe make this an ombudsman duty? Avri Doria: the ombudsman already has this jurisdiction, i expect, it is just that most registrants would not know this. Chris Chaplow: Isnt Ombudsman only cases against ICANN corp and not the stakeholders, must be compliance? Lars Hoffmann: Current 'job description' of the Ombudsman: Lars Hoffmann: http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman Holly Raiche: @Chris - that is my undeerstandingfor Ombudsman jurisdiction Avri Doria: ombudsman can take any case where soemone has been treated unfairly, unless they are an employee Avri Doria: look at the case he filed against the ICC dispute resolution services. Avri Doria: filed on behalf of someone who wanted to file an objection and was late inpaying. Holly Raiche 2: I just had a look at the link Lars provided - and it confines Ombudsman jurisdiction to what ICANN does - so we would need to clarify the jurisdiction issue Avri Doria: reading http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#V i am not sure it would extend to registrars, but to a dispute resoltion service has already been shown. Avri Doria: so it would be a question. Avri Doria: Volchers solution seems very burdenson on the registrant Avri Doria: I think there if the registrant can't do it themselves, someone need to be reponsible for doing on their behalf. Volker Greimann: Avri: The registrant must always be responsible, as the registrant is under normal circumstances the only party actually interested in this Avri Doria: nothing new aded Volker Greimann: you have sun? lucky you. been raining here all day Holly Raiche 2: Agree with the fundamental principle of registrant access to appeal Volker Greimann: Mikey: I agree, that is my impression as well. Volker Greimann: instead of designing two processes that do what they are supposed to do, we are overloading one process with additional goals Holly Raiche 2: makes sense to me Avri Doria: Registrant issues do need to be dealt with, even if they are white whlies. Avri Doria: whales Lars Hoffmann: http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule?date=2013-11-20

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Apologies
by Dorrain, Kristine Oct. 28, 2013

Oct. 28, 2013

I will not be on our call today. Something came up. Kristine Sent from my iPhone

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For your review
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 26, 2013

Oct. 26, 2013

Dear all Please find below the draft agenda for Monday's call – please note the time which will be an hour earlier in those countries that fall back to winter time on Sunday. Have a good weekend and best wishes, Lars Draft Agenda IRTP Part D PDP Working Group, Monday 28 October 2013 15.00 UTC – local times: http://tinyurl.com/onsktkk 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Charter Question C - TDRP 3. Next steps / confirm next meeting - note upcoming time change Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/

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MP3 IRTP D - Monday 21 October 2013 at 1500 UTC
by Julia Charvolen Oct. 21, 2013

Oct. 21, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 28 October 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 21 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131021-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: James Bladel - RrSG Chris Chaplow – CBUC Kristine Dorrain – NAF Barbara Knight – RySG Volker Greimann - RrSG Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Holly Raiche – ALAC Angie Graves – CBUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Apologies: Avri Doria – NCSG Kevin Erdman - IPC ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 21 October 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting, 21 October 2013 Julia Charvolen:To mute *6 Julia Charvolen:unmute *6 again Julia Charvolen:Volker Greimann joined the Adobe Connect Volker Greimann:Hi, I will not be able to speak though Kristine Dorrain:Mikey, let's not forget we need a remedy for improperly NACKed transfer attempts...that appears to be missing. Kristine Dorrain:it's there as (iv) but it needs o be included in (i) Volker Greimann:Kristine: I would hold those were something for Compliance rather than arbitration Kristine Dorrain:Volker, the current TDRP includes improper NACK as an option for TDRP. If you (we) want to remove it, that should go on the "for discussion" list. right now we're just reviewing what the TDRP currently says. Graeme Bunton:Apologies for being so late. Bladel:Hey Graeme. HOw's Adam doing? Kristine Dorrain:In my experience, it's WAY easier to draft Rules once the Policy is finalized Chris Chaplow:I am impressed with you guys knowledge of TDRP. Kristine Dorrain:Now if only there was a cocktail party at which we could bore folks. :) Angie Graves:Heh. I, too, am impressed. h:Makes sense to me h:Should that be something in the definition? Kristine Dorrain:yes, Holly, that was sort of the point of having a definition section in the Rules. :) Kristine Dorrain:Its supplemental Bladel:the latter. Volker Greimann:something is wrong with the audio. either Mikey is very silent, or Kristine very loud Kristine Dorrain:sorry Volker, I think it's me Kristine Dorrain:I must have adjusted my mic volume for some other reason Lars Hoffmann:this is the time for next weeks meeting Lars Hoffmann:http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IRTP+Part… Graeme Bunton:thanks all

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revised TDRP draft, showing the changes we drove into the draft on the call today
by Mike O'Connor Oct. 21, 2013

Oct. 21, 2013

hi all, here's a redline of the TDRP draft, showing the (mostly notation) changes we made on the call today. mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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