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Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 07 December 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Devan Reed Nov. 30, 2021

Nov. 30, 2021

Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 07 December 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/fwiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/2p83v35x ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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15 MINUTES **REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Devan Reed Nov. 30, 2021

Nov. 30, 2021

Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/fQiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/ksddfsss [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ksddfsss__;!!PtGJab4!rdyxa_D…> ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland Nov. 29, 2021

Nov. 29, 2021

Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/fQiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/ksddfsss [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/ksddfsss__;!!PtGJab4!rdyxa_D…> ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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Proposed agenda for meeting #26 on Tuesday 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Emily Barabas Nov. 29, 2021

Nov. 29, 2021

Dear Working Group members, Please find below the proposed agenda for the meeting scheduled to take place on Tuesday 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC. Prior to the call, please take a few minutes to review draft revisions to the recommendations on Losing FOA based on discussion during last week’s call (see Losing FOA Working Document <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…> beginning on p. 14). Kind regards, Julie, Caitlin, Berry, and Emily Transfer Policy Review Phase 1 - Meeting #26 Proposed Agenda Tuesday 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC 1. Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes) 2. Welcome & Chair updates (5 minutes) 3. Losing FOA Candidate Recommendations (45 minutes) * Losing FOA Working Document <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…> (beginning on p. 14); Transfer Steps and Notifications<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17ADMRTYxN5sA-e3WoEI96KxlH5YRALBsxgw…> 1. Rationale for Elimination of the Gaining FOA (30 minutes) * Gaining FOA Working Document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QOCzbLh7w4hdijpAsg6_lybddr0nlsFDcWjdz5e…> (beginning on p. 16) 2. AOB (5 minutes) * Next call: Tuesday 7 December 2021 at 16:00 UTC

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Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland Nov. 23, 2021

Nov. 23, 2021

Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/fQiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/ksddfsss ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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Post Call | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG | Tuesday, 23 November 2021
by Julie Bisland Nov. 23, 2021

Nov. 23, 2021

Dear all, All recordings for the Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call held on Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/ewiHCg> (attendance included) and the GNSO Master calendar [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calen…>. These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript As a reminder only members and alternates can join the call as a Panelist, observers can join as an Attendee to listen. For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/P4aUCQ>. Thank you. With kind regards, Julie

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Notes and action items - TPR WG Meeting #25 - 23 Nov 2021
by Julie Hedlund Nov. 23, 2021

Nov. 23, 2021

Dear TPR WG Members, Please find below the notes and action items from today’s call. The next TPR WG meeting will be on Tuesday, 30 November at 16:00 UTC. Best regards, Emily, Julie, Berry, and Caitlin Action Items Losing FOA Candidate Recommendations – see: Losing FOA Working Document <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…> (beginning on p. 14); Transfer Steps and Notifications [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17ADMRTYx…> Candidate Recommendation #13: ACTION ITEMS: Staff to suggest working to replace “using email”, and concerning the timing/order and language of the notification and TAC presentation/provision. Need to make sure the RNH is notified no matter how the TAC is presented. Candidate Recommendation #14: ACTION ITEM: Ask if there are volunteers for a small team that delves into whether it’s possible to provide the Gaining Registrar name, or if the IANA ID is okay – looking at making IANA ID mandatory and the name of the Gaining Registrar optional. Also update the wording so that multiple notifications can go out regardless of different Gaining Registrars. Candidate Recommendation #15: ACTION ITEM: Make the same changes to the language to be consistent with previous related candidate recommendations. Candidate Recommendation #16: ACTION ITEM: Eliminate this candidate recommendation. Transfer Policy Review Phase 1 - Meeting #25 Tuesday 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC 1. Roll Call & SOI Updates * No updates provided. 2. Welcome & Chair updates * Submitting a Project Change Request to move NACKing from Phase 2 to consideration under Phase 1a as it is related to other topics in Phase 1a. * Schedule of Upcoming TPR Meetings – see attached. * Update from Steiner from CCWG members – informal poll on 60-day lock – see: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/. Ended up with some tendencies: * Majority not it favor of the 60-day lock as policy; some agreed to keep it. * Did not agree on whether 60 days was the right timing. * Agreed that there should be some kind of consensus for registrars to treat these types of locks consistently. * Once the WG reaches consensus it would be helpful to have a presentation on the WG’s final decisions to understand the rationale. 3. Losing FOA Candidate Recommendations (60 minutes) – see: Losing FOA Working Document <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…> (beginning on p. 14); Transfer Steps and Notifications [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17ADMRTYx…> Candidate Recommendation #12: * Staff suggested the following language: “ The Working Group recommends that, in place of the Losing FOA, notifications are sent to the RNH when key changes take place with their account in relation to a transfer, as detailed in recommendations 13-16.” Candidate Recommendation #13: * New language based on the discussion at the last meeting: “If the Registrar of Record provides the TAC by email, and the Registrar of Record also notifies the RNH of the TAC request using email, the two messages may be combined in a single email., the email containing the TAC and the message notifying the RNH of the TAC request must be two distinct communications.” * Owen Smigelski suggested timing for the notification in an email to the list. See: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/. * Question: Do we really need to call out email here – “using email”? Answer: We can come up with different wording for that. * Happy for the mention of the language of the registration agreement, but it is not mandatory. Think this is a MUST. Staff will check the language in the policy concerning language. * Language from the UDRP rules: “Paragraph 11 of the UDRP provides requirements with respect to the Language of Proceedings, “(a) Unless otherwise agreed by the Parties, or specified otherwise in the Registration Agreement, the language of the administrative proceeding shall be the language of the Registration Agreement, subject to the authority of the Panel to determine otherwise, having regard to the circumstances of the administrative proceeding.” And as suggested in the working document: “This notification MUST be written in the language of the registration agreement and MAY also be provided in English or other language.” * ERRP provides that expiry notifications may be presented in one or more languages, but must be provided in the language of the registration agreement. * If there is a timeline it would have to be very short. * Consider reversing the order of the notifications – the goal is to make sure the registrant does get notified. * Not sure there is agreement on the timing of the notification beyond “without undue delay.” * Current Transfer Policy Requirement:” 5.2 Registrars must provide the Registered Name Holder with the unique "AuthInfo" code and remove the "ClientTransferProhibited" within five (5) calendar days of the Registered Name Holder's initial request if the Registrar does not provide facilities for the Registered Name Holder to generate and manage their own unique "AuthInfo" code and to remove the "ClientTransferProhibited" status.” * Change the language that the timing should be first or together for the notifications. * Restructure so that it is in a more chronological order. Might be helpful to go back to the transfer/notification spreadsheet. Notification of TAC request could be mandatory and maybe eliminating other notification. * Think the notification can be combined and most registrars would send one notice. * There is a difference between the notification of the transfer request, and the TAC presentation. If the TAC is only presented in a certain way then the registrant/RNH may not know about it. The request is separate from the TAC presentation. We want to make sure the RNH is aware of when the TAC went out. * If it’s presented in the account then a notice should be sent to the RNH. Whoever made the request, the notification has to go to the RNH. * If the registrant is requesting, then there’s only one notification. If the requester and RNH are different then there has to be a separate notification to the RNH from the TAC presentation. * Presenting the TAC does not have to be in the form of a notification. * Timing: Providing the TAC synchronous with the request, or asynchronous. If asynchronous then two notifications. * ACTION ITEMS: Staff to suggest working to replace “using email”, and concerning the timing/order and language of the notification and TAC presentation/provision. Need to make sure the RNH is notified no matter how the TAC is presented. Candidate Recommendation #14: * On the language of the notification, make it consistent with the text in Candidate Recommendation #14. * How does the Losing Registrar know the name of the Gaining Registrar? Currently we don’t, so a method would have to be created, or to provide the IANA ID, or a link to the database. * Where does the registrant go to complain when the domain name has been transferred without authorization? How can the registrant learn the name of the Gaining Registrar. And the IANA ID is not going to give the registrant the name of the reseller. * But if you have the ID of the Gaining Registrar you have a place to go. * IANA ID: Could be solved with a reference to https://www.icann.org/en/accredited-registrars?filter-letter=a&sort-directi… or similar. * Perhaps the default is to make it mandatory to provide the IANA ID of the Gaining Registrar, unless there is interest in a small team to look at the technical feasibility to provide the Gaining Registrar. * Thoughts on changing to one notification per transfer transaction, which might be different Gaining Registrars? Is this a use case that wouldn’t come up? Should the policy allow for this aggregation? Don’t see a reason not to allow it. * ACTION ITEM: Ask if there are volunteers for a small team that delves into whether it’s possible to provide the Gaining Registrar name, or if the IANA ID is okay – looking at making IANA ID mandatory and the name of the Gaining Registrar optional. Also update the wording so that multiple notifications can go out regardless of different Gaining Registrars. Candidate Recommendation #15: * Important to keep this optional since it won’t happen all of the time. * Just a notification to the RNH that the TAC has been requested (but not provided). * ACTION ITEM: Make the same changes to the language to be consistent with previous related candidate recommendations. Candidate Recommendation #16: * This was the second optional notification. * Should there be this separate notification or can it be combined with others? * Seems that this overlaps with the notification of TAC provision. Don’t think we need it. * Maybe change it sending an alert? * Question: Does this serve a purpose separate from the purposes of previous recommendations and in particular candidate recommendation #13? Answer: Maybe, since it isn’t mandatory it doesn’t hurt to have it. * Maybe there is value in indicating what is included in the optional message. * If we don’t think there is a purpose for it we shouldn’t keep it. * Registrars can always send extra communication to the registrant, but don’t see a need to put that in the policy. * Don't think we need both a Notification of TAC Provision and also a Notification of Pending Transfer. Especially if the transfer is done almost instantaneously after the TAC is provided to the Gaining Registrar. * ACTION ITEM: Eliminate this candidate recommendation. 4. Rationale for Elimination of the Gaining FOA (15 minutes – time permitting) – see: Gaining FOA Working Document [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1QOCzbLh7w4hd…> (beginning on p. 16) * Take this up at the next meeting. 5. AOB (5 minutes): Next call: Tuesday 30 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC

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**On in 13 minutes** Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland Nov. 23, 2021

Nov. 23, 2021

**On in 13 minutes** Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/ewiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/29892btv [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/29892btv__;!!PtGJab4!sWXvbt_…> ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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CPWG informal input to the 60-days lock questions
by Steinar Grøtterød Nov. 23, 2021

Nov. 23, 2021

Dear TPR Work Group members, The Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) is the At-Large forum for discussing policy related issues and giving advice to the ICANN community. At-Large is represented in the GNSO transfer Policy Review Policy Development Process (TPR-PDP) with 2 members, 2 alternates and 4 observers. The At-Large TPR-PDP members continuously inform the CPWG members about the progress in the TPR-PDP working group and seek feedback and advice in essential questions given by the work in the TPR-PDP. In order to get the CPWG input to questions connected to preventing transfers to be initiated and executed after an initial registration of a generic domain name, and after a successful transfer between accredited registrar of a generic domain name, a “poll” was held during the CPWG meeting on November 17 2021. The “poll” was conducted based on the discussion held at the CPWG meeting on November 10 2021 and the email communication on the CPWG mailing list. While not mandated in ICANN policy, some Registry Operators have provisions in their Registry Agreement that require a 60-day inter-registrar transfer lock after the initial registration of a domain name AND/OR after a successful inter-registrar transfer. Note: This should not be confused with Change of Registrant requirements where a “material change” of name or email address will also lock the domain against inter-registrar transfers for 60 days following the Change of Registrant, if the registrant does not opt-out of this lock. Some TPR-PDP working group members have noted that this practice of post-domain creation locks or post inter-registrar transfer locks are not consistent across the industry, which may be confusing for registrants. Some TPR working group members believe that the working group should recommend that the Transfer Policy include requirements for the 60-day lock after initial registration, although the working group is still discussing the rationale for doing so. During the CPWG meeting that was held, it was a privilege to have some members who were historically available during the creation of the 60-days lock. This gave the members a real understanding of the lock. The 60-days lock was introduced in 1998/1999 to reduce credit card fraud and chargeback. The majority of the CPWG members argued that credit card checks and chargeback is no longer a problem. When questioned, a significant number of the CPWG members were in favour of not defining an ICANN policy requiring a 60-days lock after an initial registration of a domain name. The result of the poll questioning whether an ICANN required policy for a 60-days lock after a successful inter-registrar transfer, indicated a majority was in favour of not defining an ICANN policy of a 60-days lock after a successful transfer. However, the number for keeping a lock after a successful transfer was higher than for having a lock after an initial registration of a domain name. CPWG members signaled that locking a domain name after a successful transfer reduces the possibility for “registrar hopping ‘’ i.e. changing registrars to prevent paying and (often) continuing with suspicious activity as security threats. An issue of Domain Hijacking was sighted as a pro when the domain lock is disabled. Hence the need for poll questions connecting to whether there should be an option for registrars and registrants to “opt-out” of locking a domain name for transfer either after the initial registration or a successful inter-registrar transfer, indicated that this should NOT be an option. Finally, the CPWG members were asked to get their view on whether the “60-days” was the preferred number for a transfer lock after a successful inter-registrar transfer. The poll’s alternatives were “yes” (keep the 60-days), “lower than 60 days”, “higher than 60-days” and “Abstain/not sure”. A majority of the CPWG members were in favor of a lower number of days locking a transfer after a successful inter-registrar transfer. It must be emphasized that the outcome of the “poll” is NOT the final input to these questions. The poll result MUST be seen as a guidance to At-Large TPR-PDP members. Regards, Steinar Grøtterød

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call | Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland Nov. 22, 2021

Nov. 22, 2021

Dear all, The next Transfer Policy Review PDP WG call is scheduled for Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Zoom Room Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFSaTlUME9wZzlGajk5VUI3QT09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95363727469?pwd=N3A3OWFS…> Passcode: @TP/^*4wg# If you are joining via audio only: One tap mobile: US: +19294362866,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# or +13017158592,,95363727469#,,,,*7490739013# Telephone: Dial (for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 929 436 2866 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 346 248 7799 or 888 788 0099 (Toll Free) or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Webinar ID: 953 6372 7469 Passcode: 7490739013 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acdLFXPLp6__;!!PtGJab4!v…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call: * Please send apologies and dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en> * Visit the Wiki Agenda meeting page: https://community.icann.org/x/ewiHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/29892btv [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/29892btv__;!!PtGJab4!sWXvbt_…> ONLY FOR MEMBERS & ALTERNATES: * Please join via the Main Zoom Webinar link above and staff will promote you to panelist. * Chat: Members (and alternates replacing members), please select Everyone so everyone can see and so it’s captured afterwards. * Alternate replacement confirmations – For tracking alternate replacements, use the google form [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXP3-H…> to communicate the replacement (alternate) and the duration. This information will be publicly posted to the Alternate Log-Transfer Policy Review PDP<https://community.icann.org/x/V4aUCQ> wiki page. * Alternates (not replacing a member): Rename your line by adding THREE Zs (zzz) before your name and add, in parentheses (your affiliation - alternate) after your name. To rename in Zoom, hover over your name and click ‘rename’. * Alternates (not replacing a member) are not allowed to engage in the chat or use any of the other zoom room functionalities such as raising hands or agreeing/disagreeing. ONLY FOR OBSERVERS: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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