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Re: [IDN-WG] Draft Statement of Working Group
by Edmon Chung Nov. 15, 2011

Nov. 15, 2011

Moving this discussion to the IDN-WG mailing list. And also including a shortened and specific statement drafted in response to the VIP studies (attached). Just a short note incorporating some of the ideas from Sala's draft, and a couple of specific advices to the VIP: 1. given the different types of IDN variant issues identified, to also report on which issues should be dealt with as IDN variants and which ones may in fact be more general user-confusability issues that should be dealt with by other mechanisms (e.g. those akin to small letter "L" -> "l" and capital letter "i" -> "I") that is in place. 2. given that there seems to be different level of readiness of implementation between the different language communities, to ask the VIP to identify the readiness and make recommendations that do not disadvantage those that are ready. I understand that the public comment period has closed, but I think we can still present this to the VIP team and make sure they take it into consideration. Will also plan to circulate this to the ALAC list shortly for consideration. Edmon From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro [mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:07 AM To: Oksana Prykhodko Cc: Hong Xue; Edmon Chung; JJS; Rinalia Abdul Rahim; mbashir(a)ict.gov.qa; Charles Mok (gmail); Cheryl Langdon-Orr Subject: Re: Draft Statement of Working Group Thanks Oksana, could you please find out from your colleagues in EURALO whether there was any feedback. All the best with your round-table preps. It would also be great to get some feedback from LACRALO, AFRALO and APRALO. Today is the last day and if we could get confirmation from the RALO Chairs whether they had received any feedback from their ALS's that would be great, in the meantime, I will send through something. I apologise had been busy with PACINET and had also invited responses from the Pacific community but maybe outreach is something that can be improved later in terms of extraction of views from our members. Sala On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Oksana Prykhodko <sana.pryhod(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sala, I am working on our round table in Ukrainian Parliament on 18 November( It is shame on me that I did not fulfill my obligations, but I hope to have more information for final report. Best regards, Oksana 2011/11/14 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> Dear All, Just wondering whether anyone has received reports from the various RALOs so that we can weave it into our report. Sala On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: This is fantastic everyone, I will tweak it a little bit and send it to Edmon and he can then send it to our At large community. It is critical given the time for consultations to send the Note so we are seen to be at least pushing. That's great Hong so at least it's on record and will certainly feed the link in Mohammed. This can be done "in text" or "hyper linked" Jean-Jacques, I will make time to chat with you soon. Best Regards, Sala On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thank you all for the wonderful work done in this critical issue. My suggestion is that we emphasize ICANN "timely" complete the policy-making and technical development to ensure that IDN communities affected by variants issue would not be unfairly impacted in the upcoming new gTLD application process starting from next January. If IDNs are protected expressions, ICANN policy or process should make sure IDN users have the equal expression rights in DNS. I actually raised HR and FoE narrative back in 2007 at IGF Rio. Hong On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon(a)isoc.hk> wrote: Adding Cheryl and Hong to the loop and reattaching the draft. Sala, can you also add Natalia?... Also cc-ing Heidi, Matt and Gisella to see how we can proceed to restart the IDN WG mailing list with the included people (note will need both Hong's email addresses ;-) and natalia's) Edmon From: JJS [mailto:jjs.global@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:20 PM To: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Cc: Edmon Chung; Edmon Chung; Rinalia Abdul Rahim; mbashir(a)ict.gov.qa; Oksana Prykhodko; Charles Mok (gmail) Subject: Re: Draft Statement of Working Group Dear Salanieta, some quick remarks: - this draft is very rich, carries many appropriate references, etc. - a declaration might be appropriate for the whole of ICANN, or from the ALAC, but hardly from a simple working group; this seems disproportionate; - timing: this kind of statement might be more useful when the ALAC has thought out the IDN question, and is in a position to offer an evaluation of what has already been done, and what remains to be achieved. - In the meantime, the ALAC could simply state its intention to examine the implications of IDNs for the general Internet user, while taking full account of what has already been done. Regards, Jean-Jacques. 2011/10/26 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> Dear All, Here is the Draft Statement. If you guys could edit and add your thoughts before we give it to Edmon to send to ALAC Chair. Best Regards, Sala On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, Kindly find the Draft Statement prepared by Rinalia and I for your tracked edits. Please go ahead and edit the same and hopefully we can release it before the end of the week or something. Best, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.S JJ, Rinalia says it's before 9pm Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 <tel:%2B679%20998%202851> -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 <tel:%2B679%20998%202851> -- Dr. Hong Xue Professor of Law Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Beijing Normal University http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 <tel:%2B679%20998%202851> -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 <tel:%2B679%20998%202851> -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851

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Fwd: [ALAC] Fwd: [ccnso-council] Reminder: Dial in details Council Call 15 Nov 12:00 UTC
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Nov. 14, 2011

Nov. 14, 2011

FYI -------- Message original -------- Sujet: [ALAC] Fwd: [ccnso-council] Reminder: Dial in details Council Call 15 Nov 12:00 UTC Date : Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:54:21 +1100 De : Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr(a)gmail.com> Pour : ALAC Working List <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Copie à : APRALO <apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Edmon Chung <edmon(a)registry.asia> ALAC, IDN Liaison / WG and Regional Leaders *Especially APRALO*, Please find below an email to the attention of the ccNSO Council (who meet later today) referencing the attached Motion for JIG-WG (joint ccNSO & GNSO) response and associated letter to ICANN Board regarding single character IDN TLD's... I *strongly recommend* (not only as your ccNSO Liasion but as someone who has supported and worked in 'matters of IDN's for many years now as an essential issue for Asia Pacific and beyond) that the ALAC (via its ExCom and of course with the endorsement of the IDN Liaison and his associated topic WG) formally endorse this letter to the ICANN Board. And that we specifically with relation to points a., b., and c., from the letter adopt this as formal ALAC advice... I further recommend that APRALO also undertakes similar action to endorses / supports this letter as Regional / RALO endorsed advice... Finally if the ALAC / ALAC ExCom so desire I would be happy to report to the ccNSO Council at their meeting later today that such endorsement action / discussion is currently underway... I look forward to your *URGENT and timely* advice on this matter,... I also assume that the GNSO Liaison might also have opinion / action plan to offer on this issue. Kindest regards, Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jian Zhang <jian(a)aptld.org> Date: 15 November 2011 02:36 Subject: RE: [ccnso-council] Reminder: Dial in details Council Call 15 Nov 12:00 UTC To: Lesley Cowley <lesley(a)nominet.org.uk> Cc: ccnso-council(a)icann.org, Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel(a)icann.org> Dear Lesley:**** JIG drafted a response letter to ICANN board in response to board August resolution on single char IDN. JIG would like to circulate this to both ccNSO and GNSO councils for the considerations.**** Sorry for the last minute submission.**** Best regards**** Jian Zhang**** ** ** ** ** *From:* owner-ccnso-council(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-ccnso-council@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kristina Nordstrom *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2011 4:30 PM *To:* ccnso-council(a)icann.org *Subject:* [ccnso-council] Reminder: Dial in details Council Call 15 Nov 12:00 UTC**** ** ** Dear all, The next ccNSO Council Call will take place tomorrow Tuesday* 15 November *at *12:00 UTC*. Please find the dial in details below. Dial in numbers: http://www.adigo.com/icann/ Conference ID: 5258 Other time zones: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html Kind regards, Kristina****

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