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Re: [IDN-WG] Request for comments to IDN and UA preliminary scorecards in context to Subsequent Procedures
by Bill Jouris June 11, 2020

June 11, 2020

I have been working on one of the IDN project groups (the Latin Generation Panel). As a result, I have seen some disconnects between what we are doing there and what is discussed in the presentation. Allow me to note a couple of issues I see: First, there are references (for example Slides 7 and 8) to "variants". At the Generation Panel, we are making decisions about what constitutes a variant. There is strong push from above to make the criteria as strict/narrow as possible, so as to keep the number of variants low. To the point of requests to remove some variant pairs which are truly indistinguishable, simple because the variant set is "too large". Most of the cases of characters (letters plus diacritics in our particular script, although there are also cross-script variants to consider) which are readily mistaken for each other are being relegated to "confusables". That is, characters with differences that a few sharp-eyed users will notice, even though the vast majority of users will not. For TLDs, there are apparently plans to have cases involving the latter manually evaluated. But whether they should be considered "variants" as the WG uses the term, or how else to identify them, is not obvious. Second, most of the discussion here involves TLDs. But there would seem to be an even larger potential for problems with SLDs. At the moment, decisions about what registrations of SLDs to allow and what to block are left entirely to the discretion of the individual registries. ICANN makes no requirement, either in the registry contracts or otherwise, restricting the use of variants (under whatever definition). There was discussion at Montreal of a recent problem involving someone registering a domain name which was identical to the name used by EasyJet, except that the J was replaced by an I. (The problem was eventually resolved by revoking the second registration.) Even though users are typically very familiar with both letters, there were a number of users who were successfully scammed by the second registration. How much easier would it be to sow confusion if the registration involved characters that most users are NOT familiar with? For example, a Small Letter I with Ogonek ( į ) occurs only in Lithuanian. Like a Small Letter J, it continues below the line -- making it substantially harder to spot as a substitution. easyįet.com is even easier to mistake for easyjet.com than easyiet.com was. For TLD registrations, attempted registration with only this difference would be blocked. But for SLDs, it would be available. And this is just one of dozens, perhaps hundreds, of opportunities for user confusion. Note also that ICANN will be publishing tables of variants (and confusables) whose use in TLDs is restricted. Those tables then become a resource for any bad actor looking for ways to create an SLD which will confuse users. My thought is that the registry contracts should be modified to require that SLDs which differ only by variants (and confusables) be blocked. Otherwise, we are looking at significant increases in the number of cases which, like with the EasyJet case, are only addressed after the damage has been done. Prevention seems like a far better way to go. Bill Jouris From: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:26 Subject: Request for comments to IDN and UA preliminary scorecards in context to Subsequent Procedures To: IDN-WG <idn-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear IDN-WG colleagues, Some of you will know that the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) is in the process of reviewing the anticipated recommendations (also affirmations and implementation guidance where available) of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG ahead of the release of its draft final report later this year. The process adopted by CPWG is to review a series of At-Large preliminary scorecards on various topics of high and medium priority from the end-users' perspective. It was agreed that assistance be sought from members of the IDN-WG on the preliminary scorecards for Universal Acceptance and Internationalized Domain Names, as both areas are considered key foci for the IDN-WG, given the expertise and interest of its membership. Thus, please find for comments the following: - Universal Acceptance draft preliminary scorecard as at 16 Feb 2020 (contains draft SubPro WG affirmations, recommendations & implementation guidelines) - Internationalized Domain Names draft preliminary scorecard as at 16 Feb 2020 Please bear in mind that while we welcome comments in general, the CPWG Small Team working to finalize and consolidate the scorecards in due course will attempt to do so by considering feedback which ought to be taken up (or re-taken up, as the case may be) versus which might be omitted. The format of the preliminary scorecards provide an idea on the Small Team's approach. We also suggest that you peruse the presentation setting out the status of SubPro WG deliberations against the ALAC's last public comment input as at 26 August 2019. Perhaps some consideration for these preliminary scorecards can factored into any planned face-to-face meeting at ICANN67. Many thanks in advance, Justine ------------------------------------------------------------ Justine Chew CPWG SubPro Small Team Lead At-Large liaison for Subsequent Procedures ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [IDN-WG] Fwd: [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Feb. 17, 2020

Feb. 17, 2020

This is the first time I hear about the ICANN learning course so I searched for it; this is what I found: https://learn.icann.org/#/public-dashboard I think everyone on this thread agrees that the learning experience can be enhanced by adding an audio-visual dimension to the reading material. Other aspect is the distribution channel. One channel could be the ICANN learning platform<https://learn.icann.org/#/public-dashboard> and other the UASG Tech youtube channel<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsZQcTPv4Q2TRdx4w7V1ouw>. I would have both for coverage, but prefer the frictionless experience of YouTube (i.e. no sign-in required). I would welcome your ideas as to how to make the UA learning materials more effective. Dennis From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com> Date: Friday, February 14, 2020 at 9:44 AM To: IDN-WG <idn-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: Emily Taylor <emily.taylor(a)oxil.co.uk>, "Mark W. Datysgeld" <mark(a)governanceprimer.com>, Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers Hi folks. Emily Taylor had a great idea, that is to add to the standard ICANN learning courses stuff about UA - and implicitly IDN. There is a specific proposal from Dennis, with further elaboration from Mark. I think that our WG should discuss this and propose - in collaboration with UASG - a set of materials that would be appropriate for basic training. What do you think? Cheers, Roberto Begin forwarded message: From: "Mark W. Datysgeld" <mark(a)governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Subject: Re: [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers Date: 14. February 2020 at 01:23:23 CET To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>, "ua-measurement(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org>" <ua-measurement(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org>> Dennis has a very powerful idea that I would like to take a step further: could we integrate these tutorials into different online learning platforms and resources? There would be very little cost and it would enable developers to organically reach them over time. Regards, Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website<http://www.markwd.website/>] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) On 13/02/2020 17:23, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-Measurement wrote: Java is outside my competence area, so my comments focus on content delivery. 1. Slides – would the delivery of information be enhanced with a voice over and real-time coding examples? UASG has a youtube channel; perhaps this could be one of a series of self-paced tutorials. 2. Index – an index would be helpful to find specific sections without scrolling throughout the whole presentation. Dennis From: UA-Measurement <ua-measurement-bounces(a)icann.org><mailto:ua-measurement-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org><mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 6:19 AM To: "ua-measurement(a)icann.org"<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org> <ua-measurement(a)icann.org><mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers Dear all, The initial draft of the UA Readiness Training for Java Developers [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presen…> is available. Kindly review and share your feedback on the document. We would like to finalize the training towards the end of February 2020. We look forward to your input. Regards, Sarmad _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Request for comments to IDN and UA preliminary scorecards in context to Subsequent Procedures
by Justine Chew Feb. 16, 2020

Feb. 16, 2020

Dear IDN-WG colleagues, Some of you will know that the At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) is in the process of reviewing the anticipated recommendations (also affirmations and implementation guidance where available) of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG ahead of the release of its draft final report later this year. The process adopted by CPWG is to review a series of At-Large preliminary scorecards on various topics of high and medium priority from the end-users' perspective. It was agreed that assistance be sought from members of the IDN-WG on the preliminary scorecards for Universal Acceptance and Internationalized Domain Names, as both areas are considered key foci for the IDN-WG, given the expertise and interest of its membership. Thus, please find for comments the following: - Universal Acceptance draft preliminary scorecard as at 16 Feb 2020 <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111390697/03.%20DRAFT%20At…> (contains draft SubPro WG affirmations, recommendations & implementation guidelines) - Internationalized Domain Names draft preliminary scorecard as at 16 Feb 2020 <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111390697/02.%20DRAFT%20At…> Please bear in mind that while we welcome comments in general, the CPWG Small Team working to finalize and consolidate the scorecards in due course will attempt to do so by considering feedback which ought to be taken up (or re-taken up, as the case may be) versus which might be omitted. The format of the preliminary scorecards provide an idea on the Small Team's approach. We also suggest that you peruse the presentation <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/111390697/01.%20SubPro%20I…> setting out the status of SubPro WG deliberations against the ALAC's last public comment input as at 26 August 2019. Perhaps some consideration for these preliminary scorecards can factored into any planned face-to-face meeting at ICANN67. Many thanks in advance, Justine ------------------------------------------------------------ *Justine Chew* CPWG SubPro Small Team Lead At-Large liaison for Subsequent Procedures ------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers
by Roberto Gaetano Feb. 14, 2020

Feb. 14, 2020

Hi folks. Emily Taylor had a great idea, that is to add to the standard ICANN learning courses stuff about UA - and implicitly IDN. There is a specific proposal from Dennis, with further elaboration from Mark. I think that our WG should discuss this and propose - in collaboration with UASG - a set of materials that would be appropriate for basic training. What do you think? Cheers, Roberto Begin forwarded message: From: "Mark W. Datysgeld" <mark(a)governanceprimer.com<mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com>> Subject: Re: [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers Date: 14. February 2020 at 01:23:23 CET To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com<mailto:dtantanaka@verisign.com>>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org<mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>>, "ua-measurement(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org>" <ua-measurement(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org>> Dennis has a very powerful idea that I would like to take a step further: could we integrate these tutorials into different online learning platforms and resources? There would be very little cost and it would enable developers to organically reach them over time. Regards, Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [www.markwd.website<http://www.markwd.website/>] In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES) On 13/02/2020 17:23, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-Measurement wrote: Java is outside my competence area, so my comments focus on content delivery. 1. Slides – would the delivery of information be enhanced with a voice over and real-time coding examples? UASG has a youtube channel; perhaps this could be one of a series of self-paced tutorials. 2. Index – an index would be helpful to find specific sections without scrolling throughout the whole presentation. Dennis From: UA-Measurement <ua-measurement-bounces(a)icann.org><mailto:ua-measurement-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org><mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 6:19 AM To: "ua-measurement(a)icann.org"<mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org> <ua-measurement(a)icann.org><mailto:ua-measurement@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [UA-Measurement] UA Readiness Training for Java Developers Dear all, The initial draft of the UA Readiness Training for Java Developers [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presen…> is available. Kindly review and share your feedback on the document. We would like to finalize the training towards the end of February 2020. We look forward to your input. Regards, Sarmad _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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F2F meeting in Cancún?
by Roberto Gaetano Feb. 10, 2020

Feb. 10, 2020

Hi all. I will be unable to be in person in Cancún, but would like to follow up remotely whatever activities the WG will have. May I also propose that we have a list of relevant sessions - I mean, sessions where IDN and/or UA will be discussed - posted in our mailing list? Thanks, Roberto

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UA at EuroDIG 2020
by Roberto Gaetano Feb. 9, 2020

Feb. 9, 2020

Dear all, This email is to inform you that UA is going to be one of the topics to be discussed at EuroDIG 2020 that will take place in Trieste from 10 to 12 June, preceded by YOUthDIG starting 8 June. Please see the references below: * EuroDIG 2020 web site https://www.eurodig.org/index.php?id=76 * Draft programme https://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/Draft_programme_2020 * List of proposals https://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/EuroDIG_proposals_2020 Please look in particular at the sessions PRE-06, that is about the DC-DNSI (Dynamic Coalition on DNS issues) who has focused on UA this last year - but may not have UA as a topic in 2020 - and WS-15 that is about Universal acceptance, IDNs and multilingualism online. The relevant proposals are #30, #36, #57, #87, #174. I believe that once the working groups for the preparation of the sessions will be formed we should participate to the discussion and propose our ideas and contributions to the session. Best regards, Roberto

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