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Action items
by Alissa Cooper July 28, 2014

July 28, 2014

I know we have deadlines and action items flying around on the list and it can be difficult to follow all of the mailing list threads. I have uploaded an “Action items” file to the Dropbox folder to start keeping track of these a bit better. The list is incomplete — it has only the charter structure poll on it right now — and probably eventually needs to have some more fields (e.g., who has the token for each item). But I wanted to at least have a temporary place to start keeping track of these. I will add the other outstanding ones next week. If people have problems with Excel or suggestions for their favorite tools for tracking these sorts of things, let me know. Thanks, Alissa

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Doodle poll for possible dates for the f2f meeting(s)
by Patrik Fältström July 28, 2014

July 28, 2014

Please indicate on this Doodle web page on what Fridays you can, can not and maybe can have f2f meetings. Please indicate in comments...comments and reasons for your choices. <http://doodle.com/76seg27mgz4i44m5> Patrik

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Draft charter --> dropbox
by Milton L Mueller July 26, 2014

July 26, 2014

Unless I am mistaken, the most important document we are working on, the draft charter, was not in the "First Meeting" folder of the ICG. So I just added it. Milton L Mueller Syracuse University School of Information Studies http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ Internet Governance Project http://internetgovernance.org

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Rép: Re: Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG
by jjs July 26, 2014

July 26, 2014

Dear Patrik, thank you for your comments. Shortly, the ALAC will make known its position on these and other important issues, by way of a letter from the Chair of the ALAC to the members of the Coordination Group, which I will be forwarding. In the meantime, allow me to offer two remarks: - In London we appointed one of our colleagues as Interim Chair; as far as I'm aware, this decision has not been rescinded, so there is no need to appoint or confirm an Interim Chair. - As you have pointed out, balance is necessary, and the optics are also important. But this is more than about just optics: any move made in the name of expediency and to the detriment of principle, would weaken the likelihood of a durable transition, perhaps even put it in jeopardy. In line with the above, you will understand that, as a representative of the ALAC, I cannot respond to the spontaneous vote and deadline you suggested. Also, this refusal to be drawn into a makeshift process should not be interpreted as approval or disapproval of any individual. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. Patrik Fältström <paf(a)frobbit.se> a écrit : > >Dear Jean-Jacques, > >I hope my email was interpreted wrongly and that we can move forward slowly. > >I completely understand your concern, and I find it being important to look at our processes and roles from an optics perspective. Just the last couple of days discussions about members and liaisons and this about appointment of leadership (which probably should be done with some reflexion on geography, gender, what party the individual represent etc) demonstrate to me we need a leader, call it interim, that can move us forward. > >In London we agreed Alissa was that person for that meeting and I understand some people do think she still is. I did not think so or at least I wanted us to close that issue at least so that someone (Alissa) can be and act as chair until those issues are resolved. > >Which of course could imply appointing three or five people of equal rank as chair out of which one might be Alissa or not. Or not appoint anyone. Or accept Alissa is continuing while appointing two Assistants. > >What I asked for is consensus among us to have Alissa be the person that until we have a new leadership can and should act as our leader. Call it interim if you want. > >If no objection is rised before Monday 1800 I find her be in that role. > >With this clarification, I ask you whether you can accept her have that role, or if this notice from you is to be interpreted as an objection. > >Please clarify. > > Patrik > >> On 25 jul 2014, at 09:32, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs(a)dyalog.net> wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> this is to inform you that the ALAC will be sending its observations shortly, not only on the structure of the Coordination Group, but also on other matters of importance. >> >> In the meantime, the ALAC respectfully requests that decisions concerning the roles of individual members not be taken before some questions of principle have been adequately addressed. >> >> Best regards, >> Jean-Jacques. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >> De: "Narelle Clark" <narelle.clark(a)accan.org.au> >> À: "Paul Wilson" <pwilson(a)apnic.net>, "Patrik Fältström" <paf(a)frobbit.se> >> Cc: "ICG Internal" <internal-cg(a)icann.org> >> Envoyé: Vendredi 25 Juillet 2014 08:45:51 >> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG >> >> >> Thanks Patrik, on those conditions, I also support Alissa's appointment. >> >> >> Best regards

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Minutes for Day 2 of 1st ICG Meeting
by Samantha Dickinson July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

Apologies for the delay in getting these through. The list of action items is slightly longer than that originally summarized at the end of Day 2 by Alissa as I picked out a couple of smaller actions that were mentioned in passing during the day. I have also included updates on the action items from Day 1 as reported during Day 2. I've attached an updated version of the proposed annex that now contains the information from the introductions on Day 2. Finally, one thing I noticed when trying to add hyperlinks in the minutes to documents that had been posted to the mailing list: while the email archives are totally public now, some of the attachments are still located in the earlier private file structure and require a password to be accessed. To overcome this, I have linked to the HTML page of the email message rather than directly to the attachment. Let me know if this is a problem. Regards Sam -- Samantha Dickinson Internet governance consultant & writer Lingua Synaptica Web: http://linguasynaptica.com Phone: 0414 636 760 Skype: sgdickinson Twitter: @sgdickinson

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Rép: RE: Rép: Re: Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG
by jjs July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

Milton, assuredly, the representatives of the ALAC would have that capacity. But you do understand the desire of the ALAC to clarify and settle questions of principle before detail. Best regards, Jean-Jacques. Milton L Mueller <mueller(a)syr.edu> a écrit : >Jean-Jacques >In line with my earlier comments about representation, I would hope that the ALAC would delegate to you the ability to make decisions about procedural matters. >--MM > >-----Original Message----- >From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of jjs >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:32 AM >To: Patrik Fältström >Cc: ICG Internal >Subject: [Internal-cg] Rép: Re: Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG > >Dear Patrik, > >thank you for your comments. > >Shortly, the ALAC will make known its position on these and other important issues, by way of a letter from the Chair of the ALAC to the members of the Coordination Group, which I will be forwarding. In the meantime, allow me to offer two remarks: > >- In London we appointed one of our colleagues as Interim Chair; as far as I'm aware, this decision has not been rescinded, so there is no need to appoint or confirm an Interim Chair. > >- As you have pointed out, balance is necessary, and the optics are also important. But this is more than about just optics: any move made in the name of expediency and to the detriment of principle, would weaken the likelihood of a durable transition, perhaps even put it in jeopardy. > >In line with the above, you will understand that, as a representative of the ALAC, I cannot respond to the spontaneous vote and deadline you suggested. Also, this refusal to be drawn into a makeshift process should not be interpreted as approval or disapproval of any individual. > >Best regards, >Jean-Jacques. > > > >Patrik Fältström <paf(a)frobbit.se> a écrit : > >> >>Dear Jean-Jacques, >> >>I hope my email was interpreted wrongly and that we can move forward slowly. >> >>I completely understand your concern, and I find it being important to look at our processes and roles from an optics perspective. Just the last couple of days discussions about members and liaisons and this about appointment of leadership (which probably should be done with some reflexion on geography, gender, what party the individual represent etc) demonstrate to me we need a leader, call it interim, that can move us forward. >> >>In London we agreed Alissa was that person for that meeting and I understand some people do think she still is. I did not think so or at least I wanted us to close that issue at least so that someone (Alissa) can be and act as chair until those issues are resolved. >> >>Which of course could imply appointing three or five people of equal rank as chair out of which one might be Alissa or not. Or not appoint anyone. Or accept Alissa is continuing while appointing two Assistants. >> >>What I asked for is consensus among us to have Alissa be the person that until we have a new leadership can and should act as our leader. Call it interim if you want. >> >>If no objection is rised before Monday 1800 I find her be in that role. >> >>With this clarification, I ask you whether you can accept her have that role, or if this notice from you is to be interpreted as an objection. >> >>Please clarify. >> >> Patrik >> >>> On 25 jul 2014, at 09:32, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs(a)dyalog.net> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> this is to inform you that the ALAC will be sending its observations shortly, not only on the structure of the Coordination Group, but also on other matters of importance. >>> >>> In the meantime, the ALAC respectfully requests that decisions concerning the roles of individual members not be taken before some questions of principle have been adequately addressed. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jean-Jacques. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Mail original ----- >>> De: "Narelle Clark" <narelle.clark(a)accan.org.au> >>> À: "Paul Wilson" <pwilson(a)apnic.net>, "Patrik Fältströ

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Link to Dropbox
by Patrik Fältström July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

For anyone that do not have direct read/write access to dropbox with our documents (and yes, I mean anyone), they can use the following link to access dropbox read-only: <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7x5poce3wb8ffsv/AAAdrm8pTAck7wvExIuNpYdTa> Please pass it on. Patrik

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Chair structure poll
by Alissa Cooper July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

I have taken Joe’s suggestion and created a poll concerning chair structure [1]: http://tinyurl.com/pgufgjh I suggest we set a deadline of July 30 at 20:00 UTC for people to respond to the poll. After that, we can create another poll for actually selecting people, or take an email vote, or work it out by some other mechanism that we can figure out next week. The responses to the chair structure poll will be publicly visible here [2]: http://tinyurl.com/ptrr2m6 I appreciate that we are still figuring out the details of our processes and consensus mechanisms. We did have support for the three co-chair structure in London, and now we appear to have some support for other models, so I think in this bootstrapping phase we should be at least a bit flexible and take a little more time to determine a structure that has broad support. I also recognize that we’ve had a variety of deadlines suggested for different aspects of this chair selection issue, but my sense from the list discussion is that resolving this structure question mid-next-week and the actual personnel selection shortly thereafter will work while I continue as interim chair. Please fill out the chair structure poll by July 30 at 20:00 UTC and we’ll take it from there. Thanks, Alissa [1] Full URL is here (I used tinyurl to avoid line-break problems): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1gngAa7fjboC9y2zdKs7rmH9H08RLyW7Qv4hE1Dj0D2 Y/viewform [2] Full URL: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xJkGxBRu6BBPX9XSTCRQNblNG7QEE-RllGR 9ZCvvY8g/edit#gid=1350424468 On 7/25/14, 9:53 AM, "Jon Nevett" <jon(a)donuts.co> wrote: >I'm sure that the ICANN staff folks could do it if we agree on the >questions to ask and that the exercise is worthwhile. Best, jon > > > >On Jul 25, 2014, at 9:41 AM, joseph alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff(a)oracle.com> >wrote: > >> While I have used doodle I have not set one up, so i would invite >>anyone so inclined to go forth and doodle. I would however remind >>everyone that we have a 2 stage question: >> >> 1. Composition of Chairs - Three co-chairs or Chair/Alternate+ >>volunteers >> 2. Who will serve. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joe >> On 7/25/2014 8:45 AM, Jon Nevett wrote: >>> Joe: >>> >>> In various ICANN fora, we have used Doodle polls to determine >>>substantive issues in addition to scheduling meetings. It's a >>>relatively quick way to get a sense of the group and it might be >>>appropriate in this situation. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:34 AM, joseph alhadeff >>><joseph.alhadeff(a)oracle.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Colleagues: >>>> >>>> Alissa is already interim chair, as of London. I assume she has been >>>>somewhat silent on the topic because of what might be considered a >>>>conflict of interest. >>>> >>>> One point was clear in London however, the Chair does not determine >>>>unilaterally what is consensus except for the administrative matters >>>>related to running meetings. Where no consensus emerges, the Chair >>>>leads a process of coming to consensus. That is different than >>>>determining consensus. Thus, I would have to take exception to >>>>Patrik's solution of the appointment of one chair resolves the process >>>>issue. Furthermore, in this case it might be difficult for the >>>>Interim Chair to run the process of consensus related to her possibly >>>>becoming chair... >>>> >>>> I would however suggest, that each of us bears a participatory >>>>responsibility. If we don't agree with a proposal we must step >>>>forward with opposing or differing views. Those views need to be made >>>>known at the earliest opportunity. If this constructive participation >>>>does not emerge then our mission is doomed from the outset. My >>>>suggestion would be that each decision point provide a fixed time, not >>>>less than a week, for consultation. With the exception of consensus >>>>on the proposals, which should be more carefully judged, each proposal >>>>would then achieve consensus by having a preponderance of the >>>>communities entitled to vote (each of the separate groups identified >>>>in Patrik's list, excluding liaisons) support it. Comments may also >>>>suggest the need for more time to consult on the decision or raise the >>>>importance of the issue to justify a more deliberative process. I am >>>>fine with the interim chair or secretariat acting as the collection >>>>point of views, but they should also be copied to the list for >>>>transparency. For the Chair function, it might be best to keep posting >>>>to the list. >>>> >>>> I know folks wanted to avoid levels of bureaucracy, but I prefer >>>>established process to endless cycles of review with no potential to >>>>conclude... Equally happy to entertain other proposals. >>>> >>>> Jean-Jacques - you indicated you were consulting with colleagues, can >>>>you say when the group will provide an opinion? Open-ended timelines >>>>will not help us develop efficient process or workflows. >>>> >>>> Best- >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/25/2014 7:17 AM, WUKnoben wrote: >>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> I acknowledge the different views on >>>>> 1. discussing and solving more principle questions about role and >>>>>number of (co-) chairs and >>>>> 2. continuing the work of the ICG where the chair shall be given a >>>>>focal role on taking initiatives and organization >>>>> >>>>> Both seems equally necessary. In this regard I suggest to appoint >>>>>Alissa as Interim Chair with chairperson authorization as described >>>>>by Patrik until we've finished the principle questions and a >>>>>following (co-) chair selection. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> Wolf-Ulrich >>>>> >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:32 AM >>>>> To: ICG Internal >>>>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of >>>>>ICG >>>>> >>>>> Dear Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> this is to inform you that the ALAC will be sending its observations >>>>>shortly, not only on the structure of the Coordination Group, but >>>>>also on other matters of importance. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, the ALAC respectfully requests that decisions >>>>>concerning the roles of individual members not be taken before some >>>>>questions of principle have been adequately addressed. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Jean-Jacques. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Mail original ----- >>>>> De: "Narelle Clark" <narelle.clark(a)accan.org.au> >>>>> À: "Paul Wilson" <pwilson(a)apnic.net>, "Patrik Fältström" >>>>><paf(a)frobbit.se> >>>>> Cc: "ICG Internal" <internal-cg(a)icann.org> >>>>> Envoyé: Vendredi 25 Juillet 2014 08:45:51 >>>>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Patrik, on those conditions, I also support Alissa's >>>>>appointment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Narelle Clark >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org >>>>>[mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson >>>>> Sent: Friday, 25 July 2014 4:42 PM >>>>> To: Patrik Fältström >>>>> Cc: ICG Internal >>>>> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of >>>>>ICG >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Patrik, I support. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 25 Jul 2014, at 4:40 pm, Patrik Fältström <paf(a)frobbit.se> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I hereby take the initiative to ask for consensus for appointment >>>>>>of Alissa Cooper as the chair of ICG. This does not imply anything >>>>>>regarding whether we should have one or more chairs, one chair and >>>>>>zero of more alternate chairs, status of the document by Joseph etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> It just, if it passes, gives the power to Alissa to be able to >>>>>>define when we have consensus in ICG. >>>>>> >>>>>> If someone OBJECTS to Alissa being appointed as a chair, that >>>>>>objection should be sent to this list no later than 1800 UTC on >>>>>>Monday July 28. >>>>>> >>>>>> If there are zero objections on Monday July 28 at 1800 UTC I find >>>>>>Alissa Cooper be appointed as the chair of ICG. >>>>>> >>>>>> Main reason for me to ask for this (which anyone can object to as >>>>>>you see above) is that I feel we need someone being "the chair" to >>>>>>even be able to reach consensus on the document that define what the >>>>>>role of the chair is. >>>>>> >>>>>> So this call is to bootstrap our processes. Nothing more, nothing >>>>>>less. >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrik Fältström >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>>> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>>> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>>> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Internal-cg mailing list >Internal-cg(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg

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Co-chairs revised draft 2.0
by joseph alhadeff July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

Colleagues: As a result of the consultation process, a new consensus has emerged: There is now support for a Chair and Alternate. I have taken the liberty off accommodating a minority request for co-chairs by allowing the Chair to have the Alternate play a supporting role to share the work as they see fit between themselves, but the Chair is the primary decision-maker between the two. I have adapted the previous document to reflect that. Attached is a red line version, below is a clean text. In the process of comment Alissa Cooper has been the only candidate for Chair spontaneously suggested. There is a request of the existing volunteers or any new volunteers to clarify their position related to what role they are interested in; please note the timeline below. One question as to process. Online, the only humming comes from the air conditioning; therefore the process of achieving consensus is the rough consensus among those who post an opinion. To date the above reflects the consensus comments. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *_Role Of The Chair-Alternate (Draft v 1.0)_* *Introduction* As a result of the consultation since the first meeting of the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) a new consensus has emerged among those that have commented.There will be one Chair and an Alternate.. A call for volunteers remains open among committee members for Chair and Alternate. It continues to be agreed that the roles of the Chair/Alternate, supported by the secretariat, would be mostly related to the organization and running of the coordination group – keeping the trains running on time was a description often used by analogy.The ability of Chair/Alternate to execute the needed functions and work collaboratively was seen as essential to the role.It was also suggested by some that considerations of diversity would be desirable in the choice of officers. Finally it was suggested that a more precise resume of the roles would be useful, which is the purpose of this draft. *Comment and Selection Process* This Draft, Chair-Alternate (draft 1.0) has incorporated the requested changes from commentators, with one compromise – there was a minority request for more than one chair to share the work.I have proposed that the Chair and Alternate can self-organize the work between themselves.This maintains one clear Chair, while allowing for the Alternate to support the chair as well. The final deadline for comments and additional volunteers by 2:00PM CET Thursday July 24th to the list under the subject “Role of the Chair-Alternate draft v 1.0 for comment and volunteers”.The Role of the Chair-Alternate document and list of volunteers will be posted on Thursday evening.ICG members must make their preferences for Chair and Alternate known one week from that date (COB July 31).If ICG members are in agreement (please suggest alternative procedures to the list, if not), preferences can be manifested by sending a post to the list with your preferred candidate for each role.. We would ask that all volunteers be sure to have submitted their bios to the secretariat as requested so that they are available for review.Any volunteer wishing to provide further information may do so by e-mail to the list.To date, there have been 5 volunteers: Russ Housley (IAB) Alissa Cooper (IETF) Partrik Faltstrom (SSAC) Keith Drazek (GTLd Registries) Jean-Jacques Subrenat (ALAC) Since the consultation, a majority of the commentators, including some of the other volunteers, have supported Alissa Cooper to be Chair (the only person mentioned to date for the revised role), citing her exemplary work in preparing for and executing the de-facto chair role of the first meeting.Alissa has indicated her willingness to serve if that is the will of the group.Furthermore, there have been no suggestions for modification to the role description. In light of the above, would the current volunteers please specify if they continue to be interested in one or both positions?Obviously, Alissa has been nominated for Chair and accepted, if so confirmed, so that is clarified as to her intent. *Chair/Alternate Processes and Responsibilities:* Operational Processes ·There will be a Chair and an Alternate (selected from volunteers) that will serve for the duration of this exercise.The Alternate will be able to act as chair if the Chair is unavailable and will also be able to support the Chair in related activities as needed. ·The ICG will reserve the right to change the number of the Chair/Alternate, their role or who will serve, as appropriate, through its established operating procedure of rough consensus. ·If for any reason the Chair or Alternate is no longer able or willing to serve in that capacity, they will inform the secretariat who will communicate this to the ICG and request that it seek volunteers to fill the vacancy.. ·The Chair and Alternate are explicitly able to participate in ICG discussions on their own or their constituency’s behalf and are just requested to take appropriate precaution that there is no confusion related to their role in such participation. ·The operational modalities of the Chair and Alternate, who is undertaking what function, moderating the conversation for example, maintaining the que…, is left to the Chair’s self-organization.It was the view of the ICG that we did not wish to micro-manage the Chair operations, but ICG obviously reserves the right to suggest or make changes pursuant to rough consensus. Responsibilities: ·The role of the Chair/Alternate is to assure that meetings and conference calls are properly scheduled, planned, prepared, organized and efficiently conducted including: ofinalizing this version of the timeline and other work in process oplanning for appropriate outreach and consultation otimely developing agendas in appropriate consultation with ICG, oorganizing volunteers (for themes, discussion topics and other needed functions) omoderating discussion and other elements of meeting function ooverseeing minutes and summaries being taken, reviewed and circulated in a timely fashion supported by the secretariat as well as the drafting, circulation and publication of other needed papers and documents, and oassuring that action items are captured, completed or otherwise followed up; including between calls and meetings. ·Chair/Alternate will be appropriately supported by the Secretariat in the executing these functions. ·Chair/Alternate are not meant to have independent decision-making in substantive issues of the ICG on behalf of the group, but are rather the coordinators of the process elements related to the calls, meetings and related functions.Decisions must remain inclusive and collaborative. There was discussion, however, that where rough consensus does not emerge organically or cannot be recognized, the Chair/Alternate will lead the ICG in a process to finalize rough consensus. ·There is no current spokesperson or press liaison role associated to the Chair/Alternate, but the ICG may revisit that function as needed and subject to whatever conditions (only speak from agreed points, etc) it feels appropriate. ·Chair/Alternate should also recognize that by virtue of their title they are clothed with apparent authority and should make clear across all situations what their role and representative capacity is (on behalf of themselves, their consistency…) ·Chair/Alternate need to be mindful of and support the needs of transparency of this process in the planning, organization, conduct and reporting back of calls and meetings as well as the drafting of papers and other supporting documents

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Appointment of Alissa Cooper as chair of ICG
by Patrik Fältström July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

I hereby take the initiative to ask for consensus for appointment of Alissa Cooper as the chair of ICG. This does not imply anything regarding whether we should have one or more chairs, one chair and zero of more alternate chairs, status of the document by Joseph etc. It just, if it passes, gives the power to Alissa to be able to define when we have consensus in ICG. If someone OBJECTS to Alissa being appointed as a chair, that objection should be sent to this list no later than 1800 UTC on Monday July 28. If there are zero objections on Monday July 28 at 1800 UTC I find Alissa Cooper be appointed as the chair of ICG. Main reason for me to ask for this (which anyone can object to as you see above) is that I feel we need someone being "the chair" to even be able to reach consensus on the document that define what the role of the chair is. So this call is to bootstrap our processes. Nothing more, nothing less. Patrik Fältström

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