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Draft letter to IP regarding ~40 unresolved variant sets
by Edmon Chung Sept. 29, 2016

Sept. 29, 2016

Hi Everyone, Please find below a draft of a letter to the IP regarding the method of handling the ~40 unresolved variant sets we discussed in Taipei. Edmon ============================================ Dear IP, After extensive deliberations, we are first of all happy to report that many of the identified differences between the CJK communities (in particular between Korean and Chinese definition of IDN Variant sets) for a majority of the Han character and IDN Variant sets have been resolved. We are positive that we can eventually resolve the issues for all characters. Nevertheless, at present, it appears that there may be around 40 IDN Variant sets (involving around 100 Han characters) that will remain unresolved (between CGP and KGP), until much more investigation can be considered. In view of the many IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs already in the root without IDN Variants, and operational experience and understanding from the Chinese VIP Case Study Report that a significant percentage of queries do go to the IDN Variant domains, which means that the Chinese Domain Name experience for users around the world is currently disenfranchised further every day the CJK LGRs cannot be implemented. Therefore, we believe there is urgency to move forward with the CJK LGRs even if a small number of IDN Variant sets remain unresolved. As such, we are seeking the IP's confirmation and advice on the following 2 interrelated but separate items: 1. Is it reasonable to expect the possibility of updating the CJK LGRs within the next few years after a first version is implemented? Given the complex linguistic history and differing level of operational experience in Han character IDN registrations and usage, a small number of characters (and corresponding IDN Variant sets) will require much more extensive discussion internally and jointly before full consensus may be reached. There is now an interest between the CJK LGRs to set aside this small group of characters in order for a first version of the CJK LGRs to be implemented, enabling IDN Variants for the corresponding IDN gTLDs and ccTLDs to be used. The CJK GPs nevertheless is concerned whether it is possible to submit a version of the CJK LGRs for consideration and thereupon immediately start work on the remaining characters, with an aim to update to a next version of the CJK LGRs within a few years (e.g. in 2 to 3 years' time). We are seeking the IP's confirmation and opinion on whether it is a reasonable expectation that such an approach would be appropriate given the context of the situation, understanding the overarching principles of stability and security. 2. If the around 40 groups of characters are to be first disallowed for application, how should it be implemented in the first version of the CJK LGRs? We have identified around 40 IDN Variant sets in the Han character repertoire shared among CJK communities for which a divergence in the definition of IDN Variant relationship cannot be immediately resolved (especially between CGP and KGP). Therefore, the CJK GPs would like to provisionally disallow application of IDN TLD strings involving those characters for the first version of the CJK LGRs. The CJK GPs have identified 2 potential approaches to effect such Method A: to not include the Affected Characters in the repertoire of the CJK LGRs Method B: to include the Affected Characters in the repertoire, but assign with type="invalid" Advantage of Method A may be that the resulting CJK LGRs would be "cleaner", i.e. that no character is "invalid" for all 3 communities but yet included in the LGR. However, Method B has the advantage of being more complete explicitly and indicating to the public and to technical implementers that the CJK Han repertoire should really include those characters, and prompt interested implementers to find out more about the background for why they are assigned as "invalid". We believe both methods should yield the same result technically, i.e. that the Affected Characters are not allowed for application in a TLD. However, we ask the opinion of the IP, of which Method is more appropriate, and if there is a preference from the IP perhaps what the rationale is for the preference. Further, we ask if the IP has other suggestions? Finally, we also understand and are committed to document the rationale and specifics of the provisional withholding of the 40 IDN Variant sets (and corresponding Affected Characters) should the above action be taken. We look forward to your consideration and feedback on the matter. Sincerely,

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material for Topic2 discussion
by HiroHOTTA Sept. 29, 2016

Sept. 29, 2016

Dear CJK colleagues, Here I send you the Topic2 material to be discussed on Thursday&Friday meeting. Topic2 (letter to ICANN requesting labels with any combination of characters to be allocatable) Hiro

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8 characters already applied for in the 86 conflict characters
by Edmon Chung Sept. 28, 2016

Sept. 28, 2016

Attached. See sheet 4 for 8 characters already applied for in the 86 conflict characters see sheet 5 for the list of new gTLDs applied for Edmon

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[ChineseGP] update slides
by 王伟 Sept. 28, 2016

Sept. 28, 2016

Dear CJK colleagues, Here I send you the CGP update slides be presented on Thursday meeting. Hiro

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Korean GP status update (klgp228_1)
by KIM Kyongsok Sept. 28, 2016

Sept. 28, 2016

Dear all: Enclosed you will find Korean GP status update (klgp228_1) to be presented at CJK coord meeting on Sep 29, 2016, Thanks. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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agenda of CJK LGR coordination meeting
by HiroHOTTA Sept. 27, 2016

Sept. 27, 2016

Dear all, Please find below the agenda we've confirmed so far. Dear TWNIC folks, I'd appreciate it if you could print out the agenda and distributed on Thursday. Hiro ================ agenda =================== LGR CJK Coordination Committee ==== <date/time> Day1 Thursday, 29 September, 2016 Day2 Friday, 30 September, 2016 <venue> TWNIC Office 4F-2, No. 9, Roosevelt Rd., Sec. 2, Taipei 100, Taiwan (in Chinese) 臺北市羅斯福路二段9號4樓之2 nearest station Guting (metro Green line and Yellow line intersection) (in Chinese) 古亭 <main topics> Topic1 (variant definition coordination) Topic2 (letter to ICANN requesting labels with any combination of characters to be allocatable) <participants> CGP(CN) ? ? CGP(TW) Kenny Huang Neiwen Shu Ai Chin Lu Prof. Shianshiong Tseng engineer A engineer B JGP(JP) Hiro Hotta Yoshiro Yoneya Yuri Takamatsu KGP(KR) KIM, K. SHIN S. CHO S. LEE D. JEON E. PARK M; ICANN Sarmad Hussain (remote) <agenda> Day1[29-Sept] {chaired by Hiro} 09:00-09:05 ( 5m) roll call 09:05-09:10 ( 5m) confirmation of meeting facilitator and note taker 09:10-09:20 (10m) confirmation of meeting agenda 09:20-09:50 (30m) general update by each GP CGP update (10m) JGP update (10m) KGP update (10m) 09:50-10:10 (20m) Q&A on general updates 10:10-10:30 (20m) break 10:30-12:00 (90m) discussion on Topic1 CGP detailed update (20m) KGP deta-ked update (20m) discussion (40m) goal setting of this meeting for Topic1 (10m) 12:00-13:30 (90m) lunch break {chaired by Kenny} 13:30-15:00 (90m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 15:00-15:20 (20m) break 15:20-16:50 (90m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 16:50-17:15 (25m) Day 1 wrap up Day1 summary Day2 schedule confirmation Day2[30-Sept] {chaired by Hiro} 09:00-09:05 ( 5m) roll call 09:05-09:30 (25m) review of Day1 & goal (re)setting of Topic1 {chaired by Kenny} 09:30-10:50 (80m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 10:50-11:10 (20m) Topic1 summary and future planning 11:10-11:30 (20m) break {chaired by Hiro} 11:30-12:00 (30m) introduction to Topic2 goal setting of this meeting for Topic2 (10m) 12:00-13:30 (90m) lunch break 13:30-15:00 (90m) Topic2 discussion (90m) 15:00-15:20 (20m) break 15:20-16:40 (80m) discussion on Topic2 (continued) 16:40-16:50 (10m) Topic1 summary and future planning 16:50-17:10 (20m) wrap up for confirmation of Day1&2 Topic1 summary and future plan Topic2 summary and future plan whole plan of LGR proposal to ICANN Hyderabad meeting preparation 17:10-17:30 (20m) AOB ============================== <how to participate remotely> Adobe Connect ? IDN Meeting room: How to connect: Link to Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/ *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to Dial Out to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-4 57-1414 Participant Passcode: 1064158692 ====

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KR_Hg_Hj_rep_vg_list_v0.5_20160928.xlsx
by KIM Kyongsok Sept. 27, 2016

Sept. 27, 2016

Dear all: Enclosed you will find K-LGR v0.5 (2016.09.28.) Details: KR's Hanja repertoire and list of variant groups (v0.5, 2016.09.28.) - A repertoire of 4,819 Hanja characters. - The repertoire includes 101 variant characters (50 variant groups). - file name: klgp200_51d_KR_Hg_Hj_rep_vg_list_v0.5_20160928.xlsx Thanks. Rgds, -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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CJK Coordination Meeting in Taipei
by Kenny Huang, Ph.D. Sept. 20, 2016

Sept. 20, 2016

Dear All, CJK Coordination Meeting will be held in Taipei from 29 to 30 September. Please find below the remote participation information if you plan to participate online via Adobe Connect. Best Regards Kenny Huang Co-Chair, CGP *Adobe Connect – IDN Meeting room:* How to connect: *Link to Adobe Connect**:* *https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/* <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/idn/> *Upon logging into Adobe Connect, a pop up window will provide you the option to *Dial Out* to your Phone. Enter your Phone Number* (Remember to change the Country Code if needed). After joining the call, as a courtesy to others and the presenters, please MUTE your phone. This can be done by selecting *6 on your keypad. To UNMUTE select *6 again. *If you are Unable to log into Adobe Connect and can only join via phone:* *https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-457-1414* <https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=1064158692&num=1-719-…> Participant Passcode: *1064158692*

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agenda of CJK LGR coordination meeting
by HiroHOTTA Sept. 19, 2016

Sept. 19, 2016

Dear all, On behalf of CGP/JGP/KGP chairs, let me circulate an agenda of coming CJK LGR coordination meeting held in Taipei on Sept.29-30. Remote participation is planned to be available. Please wait for further announcement. Hiro ===== Day1[29-Sept] <chaired by Hiro> 09:00-09:05 ( 5m) roll call 09:05-09:10 ( 5m) confirmation of meeting facilitator and note taker 09:10-09:20 (10m) confirmation of meeting agenda 09:20-09:50 (30m) general update by each GP CGP update (10m) JGP update (10m) KGP update (10m) 09:50-10:10 (20m) Q&A on general updates 10:10-10:30 (20m) break 10:30-12:00 (90m) discussion on Topic1 CGP detailed update (20m) KGP deta-ked update (20m) discussion (40m) goal setting of this meeting for Topic1 (10m) 12:00-13:30 (90m) lunch break <chaired by Kenny> 13:30-15:00 (90m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 15:00-15:20 (20m) break 15:20-16:50 (90m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 16:50-17:15 (25m) Day 1 wrap up Day1 summary Day2 schedule confirmation Day2[30-Sept] <chaired by Hiro> 09:00-09:05 ( 5m) roll call 09:05-09:30 (25m) review of Day1 & goal (re)setting of Topic1 <chaired by Kenny> 09:30-10:50 (80m) discussions on Topic1 (continued) 10:50-11:10 (20m) Topic1 summary and future planning 11:10-11:30 (20m) break <chaired by Hiro> 11:30-12:00 (30m) introduction to Topic2 goal setting of this meeting for Topic2 (10m) 12:00-13:30 (90m) lunch break 13:30-15:00 (90m) Topic2 discussion (90m) 15:00-15:20 (20m) break 15:20-16:40 (80m) discussion on Topic2 (continued) 16:40-16:50 (10m) Topic1 summary and future planning 16:50-17:10 (20m) wrap up for confirmation of Day1&2 Topic1 summary and future plan Topic2 summary and future plan whole plan of LGR proposal to ICANN 17:10-17:30 (20m) AOB ==============================

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KGP's draft LGR (klgp220_22c_K_LGR_v0.4_20160820.xml)
by KIM Kyongsok Sept. 16, 2016

Sept. 16, 2016

Dear Mr. Sarmad and CJK GPs members: Enclosed you will find KGP's draft LGR in XML. Some relevant information is summarized below: ---- <version comment="based on K-LGR v0.4, 2016-03-18, klgp200_4c"> 0.4 </version> <date>2016-08-20</date> <description>This XML file was prepared on 2016-08-20 by KIM, Kyongsok based on K-LGR v0.4 (2016-03-18, klgp200_4c). ---- Any comments will be welcome. Thanks in advance. KIM, K. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> wrote: > Dear Prof. Kim, > > > > Thank you for your response. We will schedule this in our work plan. > > > > Kindly note that we had also requested the KGP for an initial draft of the > LGR Proposal document. Interim drafts, even if incomplete, can be shared > with the integration panel for feedback. > > > > Based on experience with other generation panels, we believe that such > iterative and collaborative exercise helps the LGR proposal development. > Such drafts do not need to present the final solution. > > > > Would it be possible for KGP to share a first draft of their LGR proposal > for such informal review and feedback by the Integration Panel earlier than > the end of this year? > > > > Further, would it be useful to organize another coordination meeting between > KGP and CGP in July? > > > > Regards, > Sarmad -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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