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[lgr] Lao Generation Panel Seated
by Jia-Juh Kimoto Sept. 15, 2015

Sept. 15, 2015

Dear All, We are pleased to announce that the Lao Generation Panel has been seated. Please see details at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-09-15-en. With this news, the currently seated panels include Arabic, Armenian, Chinese, Japanese and Neo-Brahmi. Regards, Jia Jia-Juh Yuh Kimoto IDN Program Team ICANN - Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Cell: 1.310.795.1576 Direct: 1.310.578.8905 Email: jiajuh.kimoto(a)icann.org<mailto:jiajuh.kimoto@icann.org> Skype: jiajuh.kimoto.icann PPlease consider the environment - do you really need to print this e-mail? _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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중국 이체자 분석 관련 영어 문서 초안 - 검토 의견 보내주세요.
by KIM Kyongsok Sept. 13, 2015

Sept. 13, 2015

KLGP 위원님들께: 지난 9.10. 회의 때 많이 오셔서 좋은 의견도 주시고, 회의 잘 마무리할 수 있어서 고맙습니다. 그 회의 결정에 따라서, 한글로 된 이체자 검토 보고서에서 중국에게 보낼 부분만 뽑아서 영어로 옮겼습니다. 직역이 아니기 때문에 위원님들께서 보시고, 혹시 고칠 점이 있는지 한 번 검토해주시면 고맙겠습니다. 대부분 표이고, 영어는 많지 않습니다. 한 번씩들 살펴봐 주시면 고맙겠습니다. 고맙습니다. 김 경석 -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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KLGP Responses to IP feedback
by KIM Kyongsok Sept. 11, 2015

Sept. 11, 2015

Dear everybody: Enclosed you will find Responses to IP feedback to the Korean script root zone LGR Thanks. ----------------------- Dear Mr. Sarmad: Could you please forward this e-mail to IP members? (I don't know the mailing list of IP members.) Thanks in advance. KIM, K. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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[lgr] LGR toolset- beta version
by Alireza Saleh Aug. 28, 2015

Aug. 28, 2015

Dear all, Please be informed you that the beta version for LGR-toolset is now available for testing. The tool can be accessed at : http://lgr-demo.viagenie.ca <http://lgr-demo.viagenie.ca/> . For those who are interested in testing it please contact Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet(a)viagenie.ca> to get the username/password. We would appreciate your comments and feedback. Regards, Alireza _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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[lgr] FW: [ICANN News Alert] Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone‬ Label Generation Rules (LGR)
by Sarmad Hussain Aug. 25, 2015

Aug. 25, 2015

Dear All, Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone LGR has been released for public comments. Details at https://www.icann.org/public-comments/arabic-lgr-proposal-2015-08-24-en. Regards, Sarmad <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-08-24-en _____ Proposal for Arabic Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (LGR) 24 August 2015 Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 24 August 2015 Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains Purpose (Brief): The Arabic script community has formed the Task Force on Arabic Script IDNs (TF-AIDN <https://community.icann.org/display/MES/Task+Force+on+Arabic+Script+IDNs> ), also acting as the Arabic script Generation Panel (GP), which in turn has developed a Proposal for the Arabic Script Root Zone Label Generation Rules (Proposal <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-arabic-lgr-22aug15-en.…> [XML, 29 KB] and Proposal Documentation <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/arabic-lgr-proposal-23aug15-en.…> [PDF, 2.35 MB]). As per the LGR Procedure <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/lgr-procedure-20mar13-en.pdf> [PDF, 772 KB], this proposal is being posted for public comments to allow those who have not participated in the Arabic script GP to make their views known to the Arabic Generation Panel so it can finalize the proposal for submission for integration into the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone. Public Comment Box Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/arabic-lgr-proposal-2015-08-24-en _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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교육용 한자 1800 자 목록 관련 (UCS cp가 없어서 ...)
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 22, 2015

Aug. 22, 2015

KLGP 위원님들께: 지난 10 차 회의에서 교육용 한자 1800 자 목록 받아서 제가 해야 할 일이 있었는데요... 한자 글꼴만 있고, UCS code pos. 목록은 없어서.. 제가 하기로 했던 일을 할 수가 없습니다. 교육부에서는 한자 글꼴 목록만 만들 뿐 UCS cp는 안 만듭니다. 그래서... 쩝... 김 경석 ------------------- - ICANN 언어패널 신청서(초안) 수정을 위한 교육부자료를 확인하여 김경석위원장에게 전달(신상현위원, 조성덕위원, ~8.20,목) ※ 교육부에서 발표한 교육용 한자 약 1,800자 ☞ 전달받은 교육용한자가 UCS코드에 있는지 확인 후 KGP 메일링리스트로 공유(김경석위원장, ~8.21,금) -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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resp_2_IPfeedback_20150821 초안 (klgp166_2_tmp04)
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 21, 2015

Aug. 21, 2015

위원님들께: IP comments에 대한 답변을 v0.3에 맞추어 고친 파일 보내드립니다. 보시고 고칠 점 있으면 알려주세요. 고맙습니다. * 이제 제가 할 일은 일단락 된 것 같은데요... 제가 더 해야 할 일이 있나요? 2015 년에는 이제 더 이상 K-LGR repertoire 고치지 맙시다. 일이 너무 많습니다. ㅎㅎ variants 고치면 이제 손으로 고칩시다 (프로그램 너무 힘듭니다.) 꼭 고치려면 2016 년에 고칩시다. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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[lgr] Fw: [Lager] Fw: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt
by Yoshiro YONEYA Aug. 19, 2015

Aug. 19, 2015

FYI. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:13:23 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya(a)jprs.co.jp> To: lager(a)ietf.org Subject: [Lager] Fw: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt Dear all, On behalf of co-authors, I submitted following I-D which is a deliverable of Chinese/Japanese/Korean (CJK) Generation Panels' coordination work. We hope this document helps those who are going to generate label generation rules. Your comments are very much appreciated. -- Yoshiro YONEYA <yoshiro.yoneya(a)jprs.co.jp> Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:57:05 -0700 From: internet-drafts(a)ietf.org To: <i-d-announce(a)ietf.org> Subject: I-D Action: draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : CJK Terminology for Label Generation Rules Authors : Yoshiro Yoneya Wang Wei Kyongsok Kim Filename : draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00.txt Pages : 6 Date : 2015-08-18 Abstract: Chinese Generation Panel [CGP], Japanese Generation Panel [JGP], and Korean Generation Panel [KGP] are collaborating to develop Root zone LGR [RootLGR] for Chinese/Japanese/Korean (CJK). During the cross- communities collaboration work, CJK GPs, together with Integration Panel [IP] members, recognized that a common terminology definition for key concepts is essential in order to have an efficient, transparent and smooth progress of developing CJK Label Generation Rules (LGR) [I-D.ietf-lager-specification]. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wyk-lager-cjk-terminology-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt _______________________________________________ Lager mailing list Lager(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lager _______________________________________________ lgr mailing list lgr(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lgr

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K-LGR v0.3 초안 (tmp01) 보내드립니다.
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

위원님들께: 2015.08.13. 제 10 차 KLGP 회의 결정에 따라 v0.2 (6017 자) --> v0.3 (4819 자)로 바뀝니다. 한검에"만" 있던 한자 1222 자 가운데 1198 자는 빠지고 24 자는 남게 되었습니다. HWP 파일에, v0.2 -> v0.3 전반적인 풀이와 나머지 txt 파일 4 개에 대한 풀이가 나와 있습니다. 보시고 이상한 점 있으면 알려주세요. 고맙습니다. -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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Re: [Koreangp] [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph)
by KIM Kyongsok Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear Mr. Qichao: Thanks very much for you quick response. (I thought it would take more time for you to find/make a new simp-trad list) I checked the new simp-trad list you sent to me. The quality of this new list is really great. I could not find any error/problem which existed in the first simp-trad list. There is one thing I would like to mention. I found one thing which I did not expect at all. 19 simplified chars are NOT in 12563 Hanzi in C-LGR-1 (2015.04.30.) ! I don't think this is an error. I expected that all of 2235 simplified Hanzi are in 12563 Hanzi in C-LGR-1 (2015.04.30.), which is not true. I really appreciate your help. Rgds, KIM, K. ---------------------------------- QUES3 ?: 1: simp 䎬(43AC) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 2: simp 䞍(478D) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 3: simp 㱮(3C6E) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 4: simp 䙌(464C) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 5: simp 㧏(39CF) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 6: simp 唡(5521) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 7: simp 䦶(49B6) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 8: simp 䦷(49B7) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 9: simp 鹥(9E65) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 10: simp 挢(6322) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 11: simp 谉(8C09) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 12: simp 挜(631C) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 13: simp 䲣(4CA3) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 14: simp 饦(9966) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 15: simp 馎(998E) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 16: simp 䥺(497A) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 17: simp 铓(94D3) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 18: simp 䦂(4982) NOT in 12563; QUES3 ?: 19: simp 䦆(4986) NOT in 12563; On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:30 PM, 齐超 <qichao(a)cnnic.cn> wrote: > Mr. KIM, > > Hello, here is a new simp-trad list from > https://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/%E7%AE%80%E5%8C%96%E5%AD%97%E6%80%BB%E8%A1%A8. > > Unfortunately I could NOT visit zh.wikipedia.org, I found > zh.wikisource.org instead of it. > > This new list contains: > > Table1 , 350 Hanzi > Table 2, 132 Hanzi > Table 3, 1753 (1755 includes Two code points in Table1 as former mail, > which are > > "签 - 籤" "须 - 鬚" in table1, > "签 - 簽" "须 - 須" in table 3.) > > Total count is 2235 ! Please check it and if any problem, do not hesitate to > contact me. > > I am very sorry for any inconvenience of the last list. > > Thank you. > > ________________________________ > Qichao > > 发件人： KIM Kyongsok > 发送时间： 2015年8月11日(星期二) 下午10:57 > 收件人：齐超; wangwei > 抄送： ChineseGP(a)icann.org; KIM Kyongsok; 김 민지; 조성덕; 신상현 > 主题： Re: Re: [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars > (UCS code position and glyph) > Dear Messrs WANG and Qichao: > > Thanks very much for your list of simplified Hanzi. > I really appreciate it. > > I checked your list and found some confusing lines. > You can check the attached PDF file for details. > > Thank very much.. > > Rgds, > > KIM, Kyongsok > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:45 PM, 齐超 <qichao(a)cnnic.cn> wrote: >> Dear KIM, >> >> Hello , this attachment is Simplified Hanzi List, which is from >> http://wenke.hep.edu.cn/gfhz/html/gfbz.asp . >> >> This file contains three table: >> >> Table1 , 350 Hanzi >> Table 2, 132 Hanzi >> Table 3, 1754 (Not 1753) >> >> Total hanzi are 2236. But please note that there are duplicate simplified >> hanzi in table1 and table3: >> "签 - 籤" >> "须 - 鬚" in table1, >> and >> "签 - 簽" >> "须 - 須" in table 3. >> >> If any question ,please contact me. Thank you . >> >> Best Regards. >> >> ________________________________ >> Qichao via foxmail >> >> 发件人： KIM Kyongsok >> 发送时间： 2015年8月10日(星期一) 上午11:23 >> 收件人：王伟 >> 抄送： 김 민지; 조성덕; chinesegp(a)icann.org; 신상현 >> 主题： Re: [ChineseGP]答复: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars >> (UCS >> code position and glyph) >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:18 PM, 王伟 <wangwei(a)cnic.cn> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Kim >>> >>> We are working on that list and will response ASAP. >> >> Dear Mr. Wang Wei: >> >> Great. Thanks so much. >> >> KIM, K. >>> >>> Thanks for your work at KGP, hope everything goes well. >>> >>> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 >>> KIM Kyongsok >>> 发送时间: 2015年8月10日 11:07 >>> 收件人: Kenny Huang, Ph.D. >>> 抄送: 김 민지; 조성덕; chinesegp(a)icann.org; 신상현 >>> 主题: Re: [ChineseGP] Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS >>> code position and glyph) >>> >>> Dear Mr. Huang: >>> >>> Thanks very much for your explanation and translation. >>> >>> Now I wonder if I can >>> a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph) and >>> corresponding Traditional Hanzi chars (UCS code position and glyph). >>> >>> >>> It can be shown in a table format as follows: >>> >>> Simp/UCS and glyph; Trad1/UCS and glyph, (Trad2/UCS and glyph, ...) >>> >>> 1. ..... ..... >>> 2. .... ..... >>> ... >>> 2235 ... .... >>> >>> For some simplified char, there can be more than one corresponding >>> traditional chars in general. >>> >>> >>> Thanks very much in advance. >>> >>> KIM, K. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Kenny Huang, Ph.D. <huangksh(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Dear Prof. Kim, >>>> >>>> Thanks. The information is clear. "简化字总表" in English I guess would be >>>> "A Summary of Simplified Chinese Character". Correct me if my >>>> translation is wrong. Our CN colleagues can do a much better job than >>>> me. >>>> >>>> 简化字总表 is the foundation of Traditional Chinese / Simplified Chinese >>>> CDNC table. However, the existing version of CDNC table is made by >>>> many language experts from different regions and refer to various >>>> sources, which include but not limited to 简化字总表. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Kenny Huang >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 August 2015 at 09:50, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Mr. Kenny Huang: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your quick response. >>>>> >>>>> I cannot fully understand Chinese explanation found in wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>> However, roughly I understood it. >>>>> >>>>> I am referring to 2235 chars (= 350 chars table 1, >>>>> 132 chars in table 2, 1753 chars in table 3) in 简化字总表. >>>>> >>>>> I hope it answers your question. >>>>> >>>>> * BTW, what is the official full name of "简化字总表." in Chinese and >>>>> English (e.g., standard number(?), published by what government >>>>> branch, years, etc.) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Rgds, >>>>> >>>>> KIM, K. >>>>> ----------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%AE%80%E5%8C%96%E5%AD%97%E6%80%BB%E8 >>>>> %A1%A8 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 简化字总表 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》是中国大陆曾经的简化字标准，于2013年由《通用规范汉字表》（基本沿袭《简化字总表》之标准，但没有提及字表以外的汉字是否类推 >>>>> 简化）取代。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》最初在1964年发表，是为了修补1956年公布的《汉字简化方案》的缺漏。《汉字简化方案》由于欠缺系统及不作说明，导致了社会上 >>>>> 用字混乱。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 后于1977年二简字草案公布，试行了一段时间后中止， >>>>> >>>>> 1980年起再行修订，但是二简字修订草案最后不被采用，二简字被废除， >>>>> >>>>> 因此1986年再次发布《简化字总表》。 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 《简化字总表》的最终版本是1986年修订版， >>>>> >>>>> 共收2,274个简化字及 14个简化偏旁： >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 第一表收不可用作简化偏旁的简化字350个， >>>>> >>>>> 第二表收可作简化偏旁用的简化字132个及 >>>>> >>>>> 讠[訁]、饣[飠]、纟[糹]、钅[釒]、呙[咼]等14个简化偏旁， >>>>> >>>>> 第三表收类推简化字1,753个， >>>>> >>>>> 《附录》收习惯被看作简化字的规范汉字39个， >>>>> >>>>> 其《说明》里有提到表外字“凡用第二表的简化字或简化偏旁作为偏旁的，一般应该同样简 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Kenny Huang, Ph.D. >>>>> <huangksh(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Dear Prof. Kim, >>>>> > >>>>> > I am not sure what list you requested. Can you tell us a little bit >>>>> > more about the information of the list ? >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks and Regards >>>>> > >>>>> > Kenny Huang >>>>> > >>>>> > On 10 August 2015 at 08:05, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear everybody: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would like to modify my request as follows: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would like to get >>>>> >> a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code position and >>>>> >> glyph) and corresponding Traditional Hanzi chars (UCS code >>>>> >> position and glyph). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It can be shown in a table format as follows: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Simp/UCS and glyph; Trad1/UCS and glyph, (Trad2/UCS and glyph, >>>>> >> ...) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 1. ..... ..... >>>>> >> 2. .... ..... >>>>> >> ... >>>>> >> 2235 ... .... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> For some simplified char, there can be more than one corresponding >>>>> >> traditional chars in general. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks very much in advance. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> KIM, K. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Re: Can I get a list of 2235 Simplified Hanzi chars (UCS code >>>>> >> position and glyph) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:37 PM, KIM Kyongsok <gimgs0(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > Hi, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > The subject tells everything ^ - ^ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Thanks in advance. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> ChineseGP mailing list >>>>> >> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >>>>> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ChineseGP mailing list >>> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp >> >> >> >> -- >> 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok >> _______________________________________________ >> ChineseGP mailing list >> ChineseGP(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/chinesegp > > > > -- > 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok -- 김 경석 KIM, Kyongsok

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