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Resolver testbed: status update
by Paul Hoffman April 29, 2019

April 29, 2019

Greetings again. The Resolver Work Party had another meeting this morning, and I thought I would reflect the status to the whole list. For those of you not following along, the resolver testbed project lives at https://github.com/icann/resolver-testbed The current status is that the testbed can run the first planned test, for some resolvers. The first test uses a custom root server running in the testbed, so the resolver needs to be able to use a custom root.hints file and a custom trust anchor for the root. This works fine for BIND and Unbound, but not yet for pdns-resolver and knot-resolver; those will hopefully work in the future. The next steps is to add a way to tag resolver versions so that tests that can be run on particular resolvers can be run more easily, and then to run some more tests and generate some pcaps for people to analyze. That will happen in the coming two months. Please let me know if you have questions about the testbed, and feel free to open issues and pull requests in the repo if you are working with it. --Paul Hoffman

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RSSAC Meeting Minutes | 9 April 2019 Teleconference
by Ozan Sahin April 26, 2019

April 26, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The meeting minutes from 9 April 2019 RSSAC Teleconference have been approved during the last RSSAC Meeting on Thursday, 25 April 2019. The meeting minutes have been posted on the RSSAC Meetings page https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rssac-meetings-2014-05-06-en. You may also find the meeting minutes attached to this note. Best, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop Google Doc
by Andrew McConachie April 24, 2019

April 24, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The RSSAC has concluded the discussion of Metrics at their April 2019 Workshop. Below is the document that the RSSAC used to guide its discussions throughout the workshop. Some of the outcomes of the discussions are captured in it as well. RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NwZpYYfPfj-3JsQKZNQt0vzsLNJUTTs5RXfu4gD…> We finished a bit earlier than expected with metrics discussions, so this is also to let Caucus members know that there will be no RSSAC Caucus Metrics Work Party sessions tomorrow. Thanks, Andrew

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Comments on the "RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop"
by Paul Hoffman April 24, 2019

April 24, 2019

A big thank-you to Duane and Russ for getting this document out in time for Caucus comments. Here are a few from me; I hope they help the discussion at the workshop The repeated theme for the metrics in the document is "Thresholds for 'what good looks like'" are TBD. That is certainly what I remember from the calls and the face-to-face meeting in Prague: we didn't get anywhere close to agreement on any of them. In fact, we also didn't get anywhere on a process to fill in those TBDs. In the meetings, there were also (unanswered) questions whether the desired threshold is for "good" or "required". Given that the metrics work is supposed to feed back into RSSAC 037/038, that difference is vitally important, given that "good" will most likely be greater than "required". Looking at the published RSSAC002 data, it is obvious that, today, some RSOs carry more of the query load than others. Looking at the number of instances, and the placement of each instance in the Internet topology, some RSOs are more likely to fail sooner under a broad DDoS attack on the RSS than others. This makes the question of which metrics are "required" more difficult to analyze. Under "RSO Metric: Correctness", there is the statement "Each response is validated for correct DNSSEC signatures". On the last call and/or in the face-to-face meeting, a few people brought up correctness in the glue records as well because that would affect non-validating resolver operators, who make up the large majority of the customers of the RSS. In the calls, there appeared to be mostly confusion about why we were being asked about the RSS metrics. If a concrete use case in the 037/038 realm was given, I don't remember it. What I do remember is the confusion, which often boiled down to "if a resolver can consistently get acceptable answers from even one RSO, what the RSS as a whole looks like becomes immaterial to that resolver, so measuring the RSS seems unnecessary". If RSSAC wants RSS metrics, it will need to describe their need better than what we have at this point. --Paul Hoffman

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FW: Resolver Study Work Party | RSSAC Caucus Teleconference Call | Monday 29 April 2019 | 15:00 UTC
by Ozan Sahin April 17, 2019

April 17, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, Our next Resolver Study Work Party Teleconference Call is scheduled on Monday, 29 April 2019 at 15:00 UTC. Topic: RRSAC Caucus Resolver Study WP Teleconference Time: Apr 29, 2019 3:00 PM Universal Time UTC Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/659719591 One tap mobile +19294362866,,659719591# US (New York) +16699006833,,659719591# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 888 788 0099 US Toll-free 877 853 5247 US Toll-free Meeting ID: 659 719 591 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aTk0DNsyG

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RSS metrics -- precision and recall
by Wessels, Duane April 16, 2019

April 16, 2019

Dessalegn, In the RSS metrics work party document you made a suggestion to add precision and recall as a classical metric for the RSS. Can you explain how you see this would work in the context of the DNS? DW

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RSSAC Meeting Minutes | 13 March 2019 Meeting
by Ozan Sahin April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The meeting minutes from 13 March 2019 RSSAC Meeting at ICANN64 have been approved during the last RSSAC Teleconference on Tuesday, 9 April 2019. The meeting minutes have been posted on the RSSAC Meetings page<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rssac-meetings-2014-05-06-en>. You may also find the meeting minutes attached to this note. Best, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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[Metrics WP] Reminder: Teleconference Call | Thursday, 11 April 2019 | 15:00 - 16:00 UTC
by Steve Sheng April 10, 2019

April 10, 2019

Dear RSSAC Metrics WP, Reminder: The next WP meeting Work Party Teleconference Call is scheduled on Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:00-16:00 UTC. In preparation for the meeting, the WP co-chairs drafted the following document summarizing the discussions in the last several meetings, with some proposed metrics. The WP will go over the document at tomorrow’s meeting. In the meantime, please feel free to provide your feedback to the document. https://docs.google.com/document/d/176GzyjrUrPqgbg3X8ki_29qPXQthHJe9UomE1cb… Best Steve From: ozan.sahin(a)icann.org When: 11:00 AM - 12:00 PM April 11, 2019 Subject: [RSSAC-RSS-Metrics-WP] RSSAC Caucus RSS Metrics WP Teleconference Call | Thursday, 11 April 2019 | 15:00 - 16:00 UTC Location: https://participate.icann.org/rssac-caucus Dear RSS Metrics Work Party Members, Thank you for completing the doodle poll. Our next RSSAC Caucus RSS Metrics Work Party Teleconference Call is scheduled on Thursday, 11 April 2019 | 15:00-16:00 UTC | 11:00-12:00 EDT | 08:00-09:00 PDT. REMOTE PARTICIPATION Adobe Connect: https://participate.icann.org/rssac-caucus Phone bridge information: US: +1 (866) 780-9216 Participant Passcode: 4927450 (Dial in numbers for other countries below) For other times: https://tinyurl.com/yytgflm9 [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tinyurl.com_yytgflm9&d…> To request a dial-out please e-mail ozan.sahin(a)icann.org<mailto:ozan.sahin@icann.org> Dial in numbers*: Country Local/Toll Number Free phone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0487 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4859 1-800-880-484 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0961 1-800-880-484 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1961 1-800-880-484 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7730 1-800-880-484 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5240 1-800-880-484 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8211-1382 1-800-880-484 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-89-574 0800-999-850 BELGIUM 32-2-400-6717 0800-4-8474 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0764 0800-7610666 CHILE 1230-020-0288 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4757 10800-712-1194 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4757 10800-120-1194 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156471 CROATIA 080-08-06-319 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-11 800-700-164 DENMARK 45-7014-0235 8088-5347 ESTONIA 800-011-1124 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7147 0-800-1-12418 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-72 080-511-1516 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-72 080-511-1516 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-73 080-511-1516 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20267 0800-101-4259 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0635 00800-12-6136 HONG KONG 852-3001-3828 800-964-135 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8841 06-800-15442 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6249 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00430 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1213 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3491 IRELAND 353-1-246-0095 1800-992-121 ISRAEL 1-80-9214002 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-3564 800-985-429 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6013 800-985-429 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0113 800-985-429 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2653 00531-12-1150 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2653 00531-12-1150 LATVIA 8000-3168 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1310 8002-9125 MALAYSIA 1-800-80-8105 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7322 001-866-318-9747 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9122 001-866-318-9747 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0622 001-866-318-9747 NETHERLANDS 31-20-712-1372 0800-023-1492 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4637 0800-443-823 NORWAY 47-21-59-00-10 800-12069 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072077 PERU 0800-53715 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3706 1800-111-42452 POLAND 00-800-1210160 PORTUGAL 8008-12108 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-64 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-9913011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110058 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9193 800-120-4060 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-12 0800-002032 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-93392 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1048 00798-14800-6324 SPAIN 34-91-414-14-65 800-099-374 SWEDEN 46-8-566-10-474 0200-887-680 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-3270 0800-000-246 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7342 00801-137-568 THAILAND 001-800-1206-65076 TURKEY 00-800-151-1241 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702362 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9012 0800-279-9352 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3212 0800-279-9352 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2112 0800-279-9352 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7019-0830 0800-279-9352 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1412 0800-279-9352 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3452 USA 1-210-795-0469 866-780-9216 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-2853 -- Kind regards, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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RSSAC Caucus Meeting at IETF104 | Transcript and Attendance
by Ozan Sahin April 3, 2019

April 3, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, Please find the transcript from the March 24 Caucus meeting at IETF 104 attached. The attendance for the Caucus meeting was the following: Joe Abley Yoshitaka Aharen Ray Bellis Keith Bluestein Jason Castonguay Harish Chowdhary Joao Damas Brian Dickson Kazunori Fujiwara Ashley Heineman Paul Hoffman Hiro Hotta Shumon Huque Geoff Huston Darren Kara Daniel Karrenberg Akira Kato Mallory Knodel Dave Lawrence Lars-Johan Liman Di Ma Daniel Migault Paul Muchene Abdulkarim Oloyede Benno Overeinder Amir Qayyum Anand Raje Kaveh Ranjbar Ken Renard Karl Reuss Simon Pietro Romano Magnus Sandberg(non-Caucus, works for Netnod) Shinta Sato Petr Spacek Robert Story Brad Verd Paul Vixie Duane Wessels Kevin Wright Staff: Andrew McConachie Best, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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RSSAC Workplan Published
by Andrew McConachie April 2, 2019

April 2, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The RSSAC has published its annual work plan. <https://www.icann.org/rssac-work-plan.pdf> A link to the work plan can be found on the main RSSAC page. <https://www.icann.org/groups/rssac> Thanks, Andrew

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