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REMINDER: RSSAC Caucus Rogue RSO WP Teleconference #5 | Tuesday, 25 August | 13:00-14:00 UTC
by Ozan Sahin Aug. 24, 2020

Aug. 24, 2020

***REMINDER*** Ozan Sahin is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: RSSAC Caucus Rogue RSO WP Call #5 Time: Aug 25, 2020 01:00 PM Universal Time UTC Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K2Tq_7k5Ptzb9I6lYe7M0ojmg4CfLZKMsjwOfGM… Work Party Wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/IonsBw Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/92461183591?pwd=SXI1ZTYyUmNjUlBtOElUQk10WTN5dz09 Meeting ID: 924 6118 3591 Passcode: y%pv7r.AUJ One tap mobile +16699006833,,92461183591#,,,,,,0#,,8118604894# US (San Jose) +13462487799,,92461183591#,,,,,,0#,,8118604894# US (Houston) Dial by your location +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) 888 788 0099 US Toll-free 877 853 5247 US Toll-free +61 8 7150 1149 Australia +61 2 8015 6011 Australia +61 3 7018 2005 Australia +61 731 853 730 Australia +61 861 193 900 Australia 1800 945 157 Australia Toll-free 1800 317 562 Australia Toll-free 1800 893 423 Australia Toll-free +1 778 907 2071 Canada +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free +81 524 564 439 Japan +81 3 4578 1488 Japan +81 363 628 317 Japan 0 800 100 5040 Japan Toll-free 00 663 381 4092 Japan Toll-free +31 707 006 526 Netherlands +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands +31 20 794 6519 Netherlands +31 20 794 6520 Netherlands +31 20 794 7345 Netherlands 0 800 220 0040 Netherlands Toll-free 0 800 022 1954 Netherlands Toll-free +46 850 539 728 Sweden +46 8 4468 2488 Sweden +46 8 5016 3827 Sweden +46 8 5050 0828 Sweden +46 8 5050 0829 Sweden +46 8 5052 0017 Sweden 0 200 123 720 Sweden Toll-free 0 200 123 514 Sweden Toll-free Meeting ID: 924 6118 3591 Passcode (for dial-ins only): 8118604894 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adJanSj2Ji

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REMINDER: RSSAC Caucus Local Perspective Tool WP Teleconference #5 | Monday, 24 August | 15:00-16:00 UTC
by Ozan Sahin Aug. 23, 2020

Aug. 23, 2020

***REMINDER*** Ozan Sahin is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: RSSAC Caucus Local Perspective Tool WP Call #5 Time: Aug 24, 2020 03:00 PM Universal Time UTC Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F2N2d430uM60bI7QBnBFuJyO6AZlfh3gTVWXdl7… Work party wiki space: https://community.icann.org/x/gInsBw Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/91341590705?pwd=c0hjS2hpOFVJOXU3K3RKckNKWDE0UT09 Meeting ID: 913 4159 0705 Passcode: T6h=DJT*V^ One tap mobile +16699006833,,91341590705#,,,,,,0#,,0721927191# US (San Jose) +13462487799,,91341590705#,,,,,,0#,,0721927191# US (Houston) Dial by your location +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown) 888 788 0099 US Toll-free 877 853 5247 US Toll-free +61 2 8015 6011 Australia +61 3 7018 2005 Australia +61 731 853 730 Australia +61 861 193 900 Australia +61 8 7150 1149 Australia 1800 893 423 Australia Toll-free 1800 945 157 Australia Toll-free 1800 317 562 Australia Toll-free +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada +1 204 272 7920 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free +81 363 628 317 Japan +81 524 564 439 Japan +81 3 4578 1488 Japan 0 800 100 5040 Japan Toll-free 00 663 381 4092 Japan Toll-free +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands +31 20 794 6519 Netherlands +31 20 794 6520 Netherlands +31 20 794 7345 Netherlands +31 707 006 526 Netherlands +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands 0 800 220 0040 Netherlands Toll-free 0 800 022 1954 Netherlands Toll-free +46 8 5016 3827 Sweden +46 8 5050 0828 Sweden +46 8 5050 0829 Sweden +46 8 5052 0017 Sweden +46 850 539 728 Sweden +46 8 4468 2488 Sweden 0 200 123 720 Sweden Toll-free 0 200 123 514 Sweden Toll-free Meeting ID: 913 4159 0705 Passcode (for dial-ins only): 0721927191 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/abVxJT2Ld1

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Chinese Critical Infrastructure Event Wednesday (in China)
by Fred Baker Aug. 13, 2020

Aug. 13, 2020

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, the Chinese held a Critical Infrastructure EVEnt last Wednesday. You can find their recording of it at https://bcs.qianxin.com/2020/live/index?meeting_id=18. Paul Hoffman and I spoke in English, and there were three speakers in Chinese following us. One thing you will notice is that it sounds like a sentence or two got dropped out in various places. Our ICANN counterparts in China tells us that there was some data loss when I did the talk; I presume that the places where there was data loss are in those places. My apologies. I will be using the same slides to give essentially the same talk at the Taiwan IGF on 12 November local, 11 November in California. With any luck, we'll get a better recording of that and will be able to distribute a link to it.

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New RSSAC Caucus Member
by Ozan Sahin Aug. 12, 2020

Aug. 12, 2020

Dear all, The RSSAC recently adopted the recommendation of the RSSAC Caucus Membership Committee to appoint a new RSSAC Caucus member: * Tim April Tim has been subscribed to this mailing list and his statement of interest is available here: https://community.icann.org/display/RSI/RSSAC+Caucus+Statements+of+Interest Please join me in welcoming Tim. Best, Ozan Sahin Policy Specialist Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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Fwd: [Rssac-admin-committee] Critical Internet Resources Event - China
by Fred Baker Aug. 12, 2020

Aug. 12, 2020

This is an FYI. I have recorded a presentation, previously sent and now attached. I gather Paul has done the same. If you speak Mandarin, you might listen in and translate for the rest of us. My understanding is that it will be subtitled in Chinese. > Hi Fred and Brad, > > Please find the link to the Critical Internet Resources Event here: https://bcs.qianxin.com/2020/live/index?meeting_id=18 <https://bcs.qianxin.com/2020/live/index?meeting_id=18> > As discussed last week, please do not feel obliged to attend since there will not be interpretation service available or a Q&A session. The English translation of the agenda is as the following: > > 12 August 2020 – 14:00 local time (UTC +8) / 12 August 2020 – 02:00 am EDT / 11 August 2020 – 23:00 PDT > 14:00-14:40 > Paul Hoffman Brief Intro to the RSS > 14:40-15:10 > Fred Baker RSSAC and the RSS > 15:10-15:40 > Alibaba’s Research and Best Practice in DNS Security > Linjian Song, Senior DNS Architect, Alibaba Cloud > 15:40-16:10 > Encrypted DNS Development and Deployment > Baojun Liu, Post-doc Researcher at Tsinghua University > 16:10-16:40 > Open-source Project on the Blockchain DNS Data Sharing > Wang Wei, CTO, Fuxi Institutions

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SLA/SLE document
by Paul Hoffman Aug. 8, 2020

Aug. 8, 2020

Greetings again. In the RSSAC Caucus meeting two weeks ago, we were told that there as a document covering service level agreements and expectations on RSOs. It seems likely that the document overlaps with the extensive Caucus work on metrics and thresholds that went into RSSAC047, so it would be good if we could discuss it here in that light. Is this document moving towards the Caucus soon? Will there be a Work Party for it? Or... ? --Paul Hoffman

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Updates from RSSAC August Teleconference
by Ozan Sahin Aug. 5, 2020

Aug. 5, 2020

Dear RSSAC Caucus members, During its monthly teleconference on 4 August, RSSAC elected Daniel Migault as the RSSAC Liaison to the Root Zone Evolution Review Committee (RZERC) by acclamation. Daniel has been appointed for a two-year term beginning 1 October 2020. At the same meeting, RSSAC elected Lars-Johan Liman as the RSSAC Liaison to the Customer Standing Committee (CSC) by acclamation. Lars-Johan, who currently serves as the RSSAC Liaison to the CSC and the CSC Chair, has been reappointed for his third two-year term beginning 1 October 2020. Lastly, the meeting minutes from 7 July 2020 RSSAC Meeting have been approved during the meeting on 4 August. Approved meeting minutes have been posted on the RSSAC Meetings page: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rssac-meetings-2014-05-06-en. You may also find the meeting minutes attached to this note. Best, Ozan Sahin Policy Specialist Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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Re: [RSSAC Caucus] Chinese Critical Infrastructure Event
by Shane Kerr July 27, 2020

July 27, 2020

Fred, On 23/07/2020 18.45, Fred Baker wrote: > As requested by Paul Hoffman, I'm sharing the request that ICANN's Asia-Pacific team sent to the RSSAC, and the slides that I plan to share with that event. I recorded a presentation this morning, and ICANN's Asia team will add Mandarin subtitles to help our Chinese colleagues to follow the presentation. For the record, this presentation derives from the RSSAC Tutorial shared at ICANN meetings the past several years, and the discussion of the evolution work presented to the GAC about a year ago. There is nothing confidential about the information we are sharing, nor should any of it be a surprise. There is, however, some sensitivity around authority; I can, of course, speak to the RSSAC and to ISC's issues. Much of my point in this talk is that important parts are managed by the IANA, are enacted by the ICANN Board, or are deferred to the GWG; in a perfect world, these agencies would speak for themselves, but that would be a difficult dance. So I will identify the action and the actor, and that RSSAC is not authoritative (as in, "if you have detailed questions, you should really talk with them"). Thanks for sharing this. While clearing up misconceptions and getting everyone on the same page regarding terminology is helpful, ultimately I don't think it will resolve the fundamental issue of no root server being run by a Chinese organization. I feel that the Chinese government will only be happy after there is a root server operated completely by a Chinese organization (I can be completely wrong about this and am happy to be told otherwise, but years of seeing the same discussion have convinced me that this is the case). This can happen in one of four basic ways: 1. China takes over one or more of the existing root servers. 2. One or more new root servers is added and China runs at least one. 3. A separate set of root servers is created (similar to the Yeti project, but with an ICANN-signed root zone), which China running at least one. 4. China runs its own root servers completely independently of ICANN. Option #1 seems the hardest to execute politically. Option #2 seems the highest risk, give the amount of ossified code out there which assume 13 letters (I have some, definitely). Option #3 is probably the lowest risk, since it would leave the current root server system untouched. (I am biased given my involvement with the Yeti project.) Option #4 is clearly the least desirable for the Internet as a whole. I take the deployment of the New Model as a prerequisite for any real change, and look forward to that progressing. 🙂 Cheers, -- Shane

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Fwd: Chinese Critical Infrastructure Event
by Fred Baker July 24, 2020

July 24, 2020

I have just been informed that the Word document I shared was intended for internal use. Please don't share it outside the Caucus. ICANN is removing my email from the archive. I didn't know there was a concern, but please feel free to blame me if you need someone to be upset with. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Fred Baker <fred(a)isc.org> > Subject: Chinese Critical Infrastructure Event > Date: July 23, 2020 at 9:45:57 AM PDT > To: RSSAC Caucus <rssac-caucus(a)icann.org> > Cc: Rssac-admin-committee <rssac-admin-committee(a)icann.org> > > As requested by Paul Hoffman, I'm sharing the request that ICANN's Asia-Pacific team sent to the RSSAC, and the slides that I plan to share with that event. I recorded a presentation this morning, and ICANN's Asia team will add Mandarin subtitles to help our Chinese colleagues to follow the presentation. For the record, this presentation derives from the RSSAC Tutorial shared at ICANN meetings the past several years, and the discussion of the evolution work presented to the GAC about a year ago. There is nothing confidential about the information we are sharing, nor should any of it be a surprise. There is, however, some sensitivity around authority; I can, of course, speak to the RSSAC and to ISC's issues. Much of my point in this talk is that important parts are managed by the IANA, are enacted by the ICANN Board, or are deferred to the GWG; in a perfect world, these agencies would speak for themselves, but that would be a difficult dance. So I will identify the action and the actor, and that RSSAC is not authoritative (as in, "if you have detailed questions, you should really talk with them").

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Re: [RSSAC Caucus] Chinese Critical Infrastructure Event
by Mallory Knodel July 23, 2020

July 23, 2020

Thanks Fred, Will your talk be shared publicly, eventually? -Mallory On 7/23/20 12:45 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > As requested by Paul Hoffman, I'm sharing the request that ICANN's Asia-Pacific team sent to the RSSAC, and the slides that I plan to share with that event. I recorded a presentation this morning, and ICANN's Asia team will add Mandarin subtitles to help our Chinese colleagues to follow the presentation. For the record, this presentation derives from the RSSAC Tutorial shared at ICANN meetings the past several years, and the discussion of the evolution work presented to the GAC about a year ago. There is nothing confidential about the information we are sharing, nor should any of it be a surprise. There is, however, some sensitivity around authority; I can, of course, speak to the RSSAC and to ISC's issues. Much of my point in this talk is that important parts are managed by the IANA, are enacted by the ICANN Board, or are deferred to the GWG; in a perfect world, these agencies would speak for themselves, but that would be a difficult dance. So I will identify the action and the actor, and that RSSAC is not authoritative (as in, "if you have detailed questions, you should really talk with them"). > > _______________________________________________ > rssac-caucus mailing list > rssac-caucus(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rssac-caucus > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Mallory Knodel CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780

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