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[RSS Metrics WP] Outline/initial draft of report
by Steve Sheng May 24, 2019

May 24, 2019

Dear RSS Metrics WP, Following the last WP meeting and the extended WP discussion at RSSAC workshop, the co-chairs with staff put together a outline/initial draft of the report. The Co-chairs would like to request you read the outline/initial draft ahead of the next RSS Metrics WP meeting. Please also feel free to provide comments on the document directly. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vC2OTSOdWKjmUQanYx4ZlUGnu-5npwvJzRRSFg1… Best Steve

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Posting of RSSAC042
by Andrew McConachie May 17, 2019

May 17, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The RSSAC has recently published "RSSAC042: RSSAC Statement on Root Server Operator Independence". RSSAC042 can be found here. <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rssac-042-17may19-en.pdf> Thanks, Andrew

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Six New RSSAC Caucus Members
by Carlos Reyes May 15, 2019

May 15, 2019

Dear all, The RSSAC recently adopted the recommendation of the RSSAC Caucus Membership Committee to appoint six new RSSAC Caucus members: Mohamed Abuabed Jack Biesiadecki Paul Ebersman Dmitrii Kovalenko Willem Toorop Mauricio Vergara Ereche They have been subscribed to this mailing list and their statements of interest are available here: https://community.icann.org/display/RSI/RSSAC+Caucus+Statements+of+Interest Please join me in welcoming them. Best, Carlos Carlos Reyes Strategic Policy Planning Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: +1 202 802 8019 Skype: carlos.reyes.icann www.icann.org

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Resolver testbed: status update
by Paul Hoffman April 29, 2019

April 29, 2019

Greetings again. The Resolver Work Party had another meeting this morning, and I thought I would reflect the status to the whole list. For those of you not following along, the resolver testbed project lives at https://github.com/icann/resolver-testbed The current status is that the testbed can run the first planned test, for some resolvers. The first test uses a custom root server running in the testbed, so the resolver needs to be able to use a custom root.hints file and a custom trust anchor for the root. This works fine for BIND and Unbound, but not yet for pdns-resolver and knot-resolver; those will hopefully work in the future. The next steps is to add a way to tag resolver versions so that tests that can be run on particular resolvers can be run more easily, and then to run some more tests and generate some pcaps for people to analyze. That will happen in the coming two months. Please let me know if you have questions about the testbed, and feel free to open issues and pull requests in the repo if you are working with it. --Paul Hoffman

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RSSAC Meeting Minutes | 9 April 2019 Teleconference
by Ozan Sahin April 26, 2019

April 26, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The meeting minutes from 9 April 2019 RSSAC Teleconference have been approved during the last RSSAC Meeting on Thursday, 25 April 2019. The meeting minutes have been posted on the RSSAC Meetings page https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rssac-meetings-2014-05-06-en. You may also find the meeting minutes attached to this note. Best, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop Google Doc
by Andrew McConachie April 24, 2019

April 24, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The RSSAC has concluded the discussion of Metrics at their April 2019 Workshop. Below is the document that the RSSAC used to guide its discussions throughout the workshop. Some of the outcomes of the discussions are captured in it as well. RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NwZpYYfPfj-3JsQKZNQt0vzsLNJUTTs5RXfu4gD…> We finished a bit earlier than expected with metrics discussions, so this is also to let Caucus members know that there will be no RSSAC Caucus Metrics Work Party sessions tomorrow. Thanks, Andrew

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Comments on the "RSS Metrics WP presentation to RSSAC Workshop"
by Paul Hoffman April 24, 2019

April 24, 2019

A big thank-you to Duane and Russ for getting this document out in time for Caucus comments. Here are a few from me; I hope they help the discussion at the workshop The repeated theme for the metrics in the document is "Thresholds for 'what good looks like'" are TBD. That is certainly what I remember from the calls and the face-to-face meeting in Prague: we didn't get anywhere close to agreement on any of them. In fact, we also didn't get anywhere on a process to fill in those TBDs. In the meetings, there were also (unanswered) questions whether the desired threshold is for "good" or "required". Given that the metrics work is supposed to feed back into RSSAC 037/038, that difference is vitally important, given that "good" will most likely be greater than "required". Looking at the published RSSAC002 data, it is obvious that, today, some RSOs carry more of the query load than others. Looking at the number of instances, and the placement of each instance in the Internet topology, some RSOs are more likely to fail sooner under a broad DDoS attack on the RSS than others. This makes the question of which metrics are "required" more difficult to analyze. Under "RSO Metric: Correctness", there is the statement "Each response is validated for correct DNSSEC signatures". On the last call and/or in the face-to-face meeting, a few people brought up correctness in the glue records as well because that would affect non-validating resolver operators, who make up the large majority of the customers of the RSS. In the calls, there appeared to be mostly confusion about why we were being asked about the RSS metrics. If a concrete use case in the 037/038 realm was given, I don't remember it. What I do remember is the confusion, which often boiled down to "if a resolver can consistently get acceptable answers from even one RSO, what the RSS as a whole looks like becomes immaterial to that resolver, so measuring the RSS seems unnecessary". If RSSAC wants RSS metrics, it will need to describe their need better than what we have at this point. --Paul Hoffman

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FW: Resolver Study Work Party | RSSAC Caucus Teleconference Call | Monday 29 April 2019 | 15:00 UTC
by Ozan Sahin April 17, 2019

April 17, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, Our next Resolver Study Work Party Teleconference Call is scheduled on Monday, 29 April 2019 at 15:00 UTC. Topic: RRSAC Caucus Resolver Study WP Teleconference Time: Apr 29, 2019 3:00 PM Universal Time UTC Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/659719591 One tap mobile +19294362866,,659719591# US (New York) +16699006833,,659719591# US (San Jose) Dial by your location +1 929 436 2866 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 888 788 0099 US Toll-free 877 853 5247 US Toll-free Meeting ID: 659 719 591 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aTk0DNsyG

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RSS metrics -- precision and recall
by Wessels, Duane April 16, 2019

April 16, 2019

Dessalegn, In the RSS metrics work party document you made a suggestion to add precision and recall as a classical metric for the RSS. Can you explain how you see this would work in the context of the DNS? DW

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RSSAC Meeting Minutes | 13 March 2019 Meeting
by Ozan Sahin April 11, 2019

April 11, 2019

Dear RSSAC Caucus Members, The meeting minutes from 13 March 2019 RSSAC Meeting at ICANN64 have been approved during the last RSSAC Teleconference on Tuesday, 9 April 2019. The meeting minutes have been posted on the RSSAC Meetings page<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rssac-meetings-2014-05-06-en>. You may also find the meeting minutes attached to this note. Best, Ozan Sahin Community Services Sr. Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +90 212 999 6218 Mobile: +90 533 641 0007 Skype: ozan.sahin.icann www.icann.org<applewebdata://021EB1F1-F6B6-443A-908F-419605BF3A61/www.icann.org>

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