CCWG - Executive Summary
All, Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock. Bernard Turcotte Staff Support for the co-chairs.
Just read it. My thoughts/feedback: * It's good. Much clearer. Logically laid out * Good effort made to write in clean language Questions: * Who exactly is this for? The report says it has two audiences: ICANN community (quick access to recommendations) and non-ICANN community (broader audience) * I would argue you can't have a report that adequately covers both * Currently, I think it starts out with a broader audience in mind, but quickly becomes increasingly focused on the ICANN community Thoughts: * This report is great for a specific group of people: those who are very interested in the process and all the detail but are not in the 50 or so people that have been following this topic very closely. In other words, I think this report is great for the roughly 200-400 people who are largely ICANN insiders but haven't had time to follow everything * I think you need a report for the 2,000 to 5,000 people who are going to be really interested in the IANA transition and who *may consider sending in their feedback* on the process and in particular this accountability component. * I think such a second report could have a breakaway Executive Summary that could then be used to update anyone and everyone Feedback: * There has clearly been an effort to develop clear and plain language, but as the report progresses, it gets lost in jargon and phrases that have become very familiar to the working group but which act as a barrier to everyone else * The report could do with a sub-editor/copy editor going over it and removing extraneous wording, boiling it down a little * The level of detail can be overwhelming. If you feel it is necessary to keep in all the detail, then perhaps include mini-summaries for each main section to help guide people through it Hope this is helpful. Let me know if I can be of assistance Kieren On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com
wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support
for the co-chairs.
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Hello, A few comments on page 1 to 20 - A general foot note be added indicating that IANA function review only refers to the naming function - Since this is a summary there is no need for much explanation for instance the 2 paragraph after the SD image on page 10 is not necessary - Page 12 -Note 2: I understand the challenge the clause tries to alleviate, but I am really concerned about the fact that all resolutions will wait 15 days before they can be acted upon. I think its important to check with board whether there are any example of resolutions that cannot delay so they can be exempted. If for instance board resolve to remove a CEO or even appoint an interim CEO due to exit(perhaps death) of the present OR if board resolve on issues that generally concerns IETF or RIR. Those are matters that seem to require urgent implementation. I think there is need for promptness and delaying activities just to catch one that may never happen in years to come does not sound efficient to me. - Page 12 - Conference call: I think the model by which community decides should be included as a bullet point. I expect it will be by virtue of support or against. - Page 12 - Community forum: I just hope that we will not be getting to this stage often as that seem like a huge cost to me (face 2 face meetings). Oil was more valuable than it is now, lets not think it will all be juicy with ICANN-cordinated names space forever and our proposal should be sustainable for years to come. - Page 12/13 - Holding community forum: I don't think its realistic for some SO/AC to participate in a face2face within 15days notice. It may be good to add a bullet point that indicates the minimum /maximum number of each SO/AC that will be supported to be present at the face 2 face. Such number needs to be balanced across SO/AC - The Flowchart on page 11 should indicate the number of days for each escalation levels and the final total on level 6 - From page 11 through to 13, its not stated what will happen to the particular decision of board that is been put on hold. For instance, board resolve to remove the CEO and if the trigger community requirement is meet against such move, does it mean the CEO to be removed will continue to operate all through the escalation levels? - page 18 - Removal of individual board of directors: Is it correct that this same process will affect the numbers/GAC(and any other) director irrespective of whether they are participating in the accountability mechanisms or not? may be good to be explicit about that - Page 18 - Petition: First bullet lacks a little clarity on whether the SO/AC has the option to reject the petition. I suggest wording as thus: "....the Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee must accept *or reject* the petition according to its own mechanisms". Secondly there seem to be multiple conference call, who is supposed to participate in the first conference call for bullet 2. Again the overall status of the said director during these escalation process needs to be stated. i.e will the director still have all rights to participate within the board during this process? Just a bullet point should specify that Regards On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Bernard Turcotte < turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
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for the co-chairs.
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I think this summary is excellent. To reiterate what I said on the call: I do not agree that the escalation process should apply to the approval process for changes to fundamental bylaws. This is because it's an approval process, following a public consultation etc, and because the community isn't trying to block something per se, and because once the Board has voted on a bylaws change, it isn't a case of a discussion with the community leading to small changes - it's the need for a new consultation on new proposed changes to the fundamental bylaws. So in concrete terms, I would suggest that a resolution by the Board to propose a change to fundamental bylaws after the usual consultation process *automatically triggers* a conference call, and that by assent on such a call, the community forum process could be skipped and the community could go straight to decision. (I think if a forum is called, that's actually an indication that more work needs to be done and so not only should no forum be held, the change should go back to the drawing board. So I'd actually favour removing altogether the forum step too.) Hope this helps, Jordan On 10 November 2015 at 10:42, Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support
for the co-chairs.
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Thanks Bernie, With respect to the executive summary, as I recall in Dublin our counsel said that, if needed, the SD model could be supported (belts and suspenders) by contract or possibly even by a “scoping” bylaw – but this notion of adding some heft to the SD model does not appear in the summary unless I missed it – shouldn’t it? David McAuley From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Turcotte Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:42 PM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary All, Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock. Bernard Turcotte Staff Support for the co-chairs.
Bernard, Nice job overall. However, I have a few comments. First a few narrow textual matters than need addressing: Pg 7 – “reinforcing adherence to Human Rights protocols” I thought we were discussing respect for human rights, not adherence. And where did the protocols come in? We should revert to the agreed HR text. Pg 8 – same issue Pg 10 – The Sole Designator does not provide the “maximum legal set of powers to the community”, it provides more limited legal powers than membership A major problem is that there is no reference to the explicit decision to grant right of inspection to the SD or individual SOs and ACs nor the agreement to incorporate a new independent appeal of DIDP decisions for SOs/ACs and individuals. Second, the draft does not address the problem I have raised about the assumptions on SO/AC participation in community mechanism and the thresholds for exercising powers. The assumption is that GNSO, ccNSO, ASO, ALAC, and GAC will all participate. But if one or more of these entities decides not to participate (note, I do not mean abstaining, I means not participating at all a la SSAC) or cannot reach consensus on participating for some length of time, we could only have 4 or fewer participating entities. If there are only 4 participating SOs/ACs, it would require community unanimity to exercise community powers to (1) Block a proposed Operating Plan/Strategic Plan/Budget, (2) Approve changes to Fundamental Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation, (5) Recall the entire board of directors, and (7) Reconsider/reject board decisions relating to reviews of IANA functions, including trigger of PTI separation. If there are only 3 participating SOs/ACs, the community would not be able to exercise those powers at all. That is why I suggested getting confirmation of intent to participate – acknowledging that this would not be an endorsement of the CCWG proposal – from the ACs and SOs so that we can accurately project for the model. I also think that we need to explore thresholds for various levels of participation for that reason. I also concur with Jordan that the escalation should not apply to fundamental bylaws. Best, Brett From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Turcotte Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:42 PM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary All, Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock. Bernard Turcotte Staff Support for the co-chairs. ________________________________ Brett Schaefer Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy The Heritage Foundation 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20002 202-608-6097 heritage.org<http://heritage.org/>
I agree with Brett on points below. Robin On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:50 AM, Schaefer, Brett wrote:
Bernard,
Nice job overall. However, I have a few comments. First a few narrow textual matters than need addressing:
Pg 7 – “reinforcing adherence to Human Rights protocols” I thought we were discussing respect for human rights, not adherence. And where did the protocols come in? We should revert to the agreed HR text. Pg 8 – same issue Pg 10 – The Sole Designator does not provide the “maximum legal set of powers to the community”, it provides more limited legal powers than membership
A major problem is that there is no reference to the explicit decision to grant right of inspection to the SD or individual SOs and ACs nor the agreement to incorporate a new independent appeal of DIDP decisions for SOs/ACs and individuals.
Second, the draft does not address the problem I have raised about the assumptions on SO/AC participation in community mechanism and the thresholds for exercising powers. The assumption is that GNSO, ccNSO, ASO, ALAC, and GAC will all participate. But if one or more of these entities decides not to participate (note, I do not mean abstaining, I means not participating at all a la SSAC) or cannot reach consensus on participating for some length of time, we could only have 4 or fewer participating entities.
If there are only 4 participating SOs/ACs, it would require community unanimity to exercise community powers to (1) Block a proposed Operating Plan/Strategic Plan/Budget, (2) Approve changes to Fundamental Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation, (5) Recall the entire board of directors, and (7) Reconsider/reject board decisions relating to reviews of IANA functions, including trigger of PTI separation. If there are only 3 participating SOs/ACs, the community would not be able to exercise those powers at all.
That is why I suggested getting confirmation of intent to participate – acknowledging that this would not be an endorsement of the CCWG proposal – from the ACs and SOs so that we can accurately project for the model. I also think that we need to explore thresholds for various levels of participation for that reason.
I also concur with Jordan that the escalation should not apply to fundamental bylaws.
Best,
Brett
From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Turcotte Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 4:42 PM To: Accountability Cross Community Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support
for the co-chairs.
Brett Schaefer Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy The Heritage Foundation 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20002 202-608-6097 heritage.org
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were discussing respect for human rights, not adherence. And where did the protocols come in? We should revert to the agreed HR text.
There is no agreed text. You have very significant objections to the evisceration of ICANN's obligations from me and Eberhard Lisse as a start. But I agree that 'protocols' play no part in it. What are they, in this context, anyway? I come back to my original point which has been widely and studiously ignored. If we do NOT refer to a lowest-common denominator baseline such as the UDHR, then a vague reference to 'human rights' could be used to include all sorts of things we don't mean, such as the right to water, or the right to internet access (both of which have been described as human rights).
Nigel, I was referring to the WP4 agreed text. I know you have issues with it. I also am not fully supportive of it. But it was reflective of the compromises reached in the group. Thanks, Brett Brett Schaefer Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy The Heritage Foundation 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20002 202-608-6097 heritage.org -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:14 AM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary
were discussing respect for human rights, not adherence. And where did the protocols come in? We should revert to the agreed HR text.
There is no agreed text. You have very significant objections to the evisceration of ICANN's obligations from me and Eberhard Lisse as a start. But I agree that 'protocols' play no part in it. What are they, in this context, anyway? I come back to my original point which has been widely and studiously ignored. If we do NOT refer to a lowest-common denominator baseline such as the UDHR, then a vague reference to 'human rights' could be used to include all sorts of things we don't mean, such as the right to water, or the right to internet access (both of which have been described as human rights). _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
+1 for Nigel's remarks. Stephen Deerhake -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Roberts Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:14 AM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary
were discussing respect for human rights, not adherence. And where did the protocols come in? We should revert to the agreed HR text.
There is no agreed text. You have very significant objections to the evisceration of ICANN's obligations from me and Eberhard Lisse as a start. But I agree that 'protocols' play no part in it. What are they, in this context, anyway? I come back to my original point which has been widely and studiously ignored. If we do NOT refer to a lowest-common denominator baseline such as the UDHR, then a vague reference to 'human rights' could be used to include all sorts of things we don't mean, such as the right to water, or the right to internet access (both of which have been described as human rights). _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Hello I already made a comment on the chat during CCWG call today, making it here again. I think the human rights language in the summary is a bit confusing. "Reinforcing Adherence to Human Rights Protocols" (pages 7, 8, 31) is not exactly what WP4 proposed. The word "protocols" makes no sense in this context, it will be good either for diplomatic language or for IETF, but not for the CCWG document. As far as I am concerned, we are not suggesting to commit to any "protocols", furthermore, we even decided not to suggest to mention any instruments. Even within the context of international human rights law mentioning "protocols" doesn't make any sense. I believe just "human rights" or "internationally recognised human rights" would be much better wording. But not "protocols" because it is confusing. Best regards Tanya On 09/11/15 22:42, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support
for the co-chairs.
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+ 1 On 10/11/2015 12:54, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hello I already made a comment on the chat during CCWG call today, making it here again. I think the human rights language in the summary is a bit confusing. "Reinforcing Adherence to Human Rights Protocols" (pages 7, 8, 31) is not exactly what WP4 proposed. The word "protocols" makes no sense in this context, it will be good either for diplomatic language or for IETF, but not for the CCWG document. As far as I am concerned, we are not suggesting to commit to any "protocols", furthermore, we even decided not to suggest to mention any instruments. Even within the context of international human rights law mentioning "protocols" doesn't make any sense. I believe just "human rights" or "internationally recognised human rights" would be much better wording. But not "protocols" because it is confusing. Best regards Tanya
On 09/11/15 22:42, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
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I agree with Dr. Tropina on the incorrect HR language in the summary. It will lead to confusion that ICANN is signing up to adhere to some protocols and that has never been part of the plan of this group. That confusion will cause much larger problems in the future. Let's fix that language as she suggests. Thanks, Robin On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hello I already made a comment on the chat during CCWG call today, making it here again. I think the human rights language in the summary is a bit confusing. "Reinforcing Adherence to Human Rights Protocols" (pages 7, 8, 31) is not exactly what WP4 proposed. The word "protocols" makes no sense in this context, it will be good either for diplomatic language or for IETF, but not for the CCWG document. As far as I am concerned, we are not suggesting to commit to any "protocols", furthermore, we even decided not to suggest to mention any instruments. Even within the context of international human rights law mentioning "protocols" doesn't make any sense. I believe just "human rights" or "internationally recognised human rights" would be much better wording. But not "protocols" because it is confusing. Best regards Tanya
On 09/11/15 22:42, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 +1 Best, Niels On 11/10/2015 03:43 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
I agree with Dr. Tropina on the incorrect HR language in the summary. It will lead to confusion that ICANN is signing up to adhere to some protocols and that has never been part of the plan of this group. That confusion will cause much larger problems in the future. Let's fix that language as she suggests.
Thanks, Robin
On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hello I already made a comment on the chat during CCWG call today, making it here again. I think the human rights language in the summary is a bit confusing. "Reinforcing Adherence to Human Rights Protocols" (pages 7, 8, 31) is not exactly what WP4 proposed. The word "protocols" makes no sense in this context, it will be good either for diplomatic language or for IETF, but not for the CCWG document. As far as I am concerned, we are not suggesting to commit to any "protocols", furthermore, we even decided not to suggest to mention any instruments. Even within the context of international human rights law mentioning "protocols" doesn't make any sense. I believe just "human rights" or "internationally recognised human rights" would be much better wording. But not "protocols" because it is confusing. Best regards Tanya
On 09/11/15 22:42, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
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In the comments I submitted, I proposed a number of specific textual changes to address this. I look forward to seeing the second draft. We are going to see a second draft, aren't we??? I hope..... On Thursday, November 12, 2015, Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org> wrote:
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On 11/10/2015 03:43 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
I agree with Dr. Tropina on the incorrect HR language in the summary. It will lead to confusion that ICANN is signing up to adhere to some protocols and that has never been part of the plan of this group. That confusion will cause much larger problems in the future. Let's fix that language as she suggests.
Thanks, Robin
On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Hello I already made a comment on the chat during CCWG call today, making it here again. I think the human rights language in the summary is a bit confusing. "Reinforcing Adherence to Human Rights Protocols" (pages 7, 8, 31) is not exactly what WP4 proposed. The word "protocols" makes no sense in this context, it will be good either for diplomatic language or for IETF, but not for the CCWG document. As far as I am concerned, we are not suggesting to commit to any "protocols", furthermore, we even decided not to suggest to mention any instruments. Even within the context of international human rights law mentioning "protocols" doesn't make any sense. I believe just "human rights" or "internationally recognised human rights" would be much better wording. But not "protocols" because it is confusing. Best regards Tanya
On 09/11/15 22:42, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
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Adding to my previous point about the escalation mechanism I have two further suggestions: On p. 23 lines 1 and 2, the summary presents that the ICANN Board could be removed “without cause or reason”. To me, a “removal without cause” does not necessarily seem synonymous to a “removal without reason”. Maybe someone with a US legal background could weigh in on that. On p. 37, the bottom paragraph gives a list of WS 2 items. This seems to be incongruent with the latest version of the “Protecting and Defending Work Stream 2” document I could find on the CCWG wiki (dating 2 November). Specifically, the item regarding ICANN interactions with governments is currently struck from the list. https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/50823981/AJed%2020151026%20... Kind regards Sabine Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Bernard Turcotte Gesendet: Montag, 9. November 2015 22:42 An: Accountability Cross Community Betreff: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Executive Summary All, Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow. Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock. Bernard Turcotte Staff Support for the co-chairs.
All, Attached (and duplicated in the text of this email are my comments to the Summary. Sorry for missing the deadline by 2 hours, 12 minutes, but I've been working on this all afternoon and into the evening. The most significant comments are in *bold. * Some of the other comments are substantive, even if they look like proofreading, because they change (for the better) the sense of the sentence they are modifying. The remaining comments are more copy-editing/proofreading in nature (though I stopped myself from dealing with commas). In retrospect, it would have been nice to have an editable copy of the document, but that's life. If it would help, I can borrow the Sidley word doc and put my changes in, but not right away since I am very late for dinner.... Greg Global Comment: *Overall, I found the Summary extremely repetitive, with the Escalation path described generically on pages 11-13 and then repeated virtually in full no less than 5 times, between pages 18 and 30 (and taking up most of these pages). This is mind-numbing. It would be better to describe it once in full and then describe the variations more briefly for each power. Somehow, even with this massive repetition, the mechanics of rejecting an ICANN Budget/Operating Plan/Strategic Plan or rejecting a change to a Standard Bylaw are barely described at all. Then we seem to run out of steam on the remaining pages, where much of the descriptions are rushed and incomplete.* Specific Comments: Table of Contents: Major sections on pp. 17-26 need to be bolded and pulled to the margin p. 3: Item 1, first full paragraph, second line: replace “is” with “to be.” Bottom of p. 4 to top of p. 5: *I think these are only partially true. However, saying anything less would upset the delicate balance of our work.* p. 5: second bullet, last parenthetical: replace “s” with “ACs”. I note that even though we define the abbreviations SO and AC here, the full terms are used every single time in pages 18-30, which are already mindnumbing. p. 5, “Set of Recommendations”: *I don’t believe it’s entirely true that our recommendations will “in no way modify the day-to-day operations of ICANN.” We may not have made a specific recommendation that requires a specific change, but one would hope that day-to-day operations change somewhat as a result of enhanced accountability to the community. If there is no change whatsoever, I think we’ve failed.* p. 7, Enhancing the Multistakeholder Model of ICANN: First bullet: I don’t know what is meant by making ICANN’s role and mission “more robust against change.” It’s also a terribly-drafted phrase. It should be removed or replaced with something that makes sense in the English language. Third bullet: Replace with “Reaffirming a commitment to respect internationally recognized Human Rights” Fifth bullet: second line, replace “assess” with “assesses” p. 8, 6th bullet: As above, replace with “Reaffirming a commitment to respect internationally recognized Human Rights” p. 9, first line: remove “therefore”. Standard Bylaws, first line: remove “other.” First line of full paragraph: change “aspects” to “bylaws.” Third line: remove “it is possible that”. p. 10, Sole Designator Model section, first paragraph, fifth line: replace “the maximum” with “a robust.” sixth-seventh line: remove “some commenters in the Second Public Comment Period stated”. Second paragraph: revise first clause of first sentence to read “The set of powers available under the Sole Member model were defined by.” It’s highly misleading to say that these powers “would have been enshrined by statute”; this makes it sound like we were proposing a change to California law to “enshrine” our Member powers. Empowering the Community section: third line, insert “still” between “might” and “arise.” fourth line, remove “had.” Fifth line: remove “between themselves”. Sixth line: replace “without” with “before.” p. 11, second line: insert “are made” before “mandatory”. *Petition section: It says “Anyone can begin a petition” – is that really true? There is no requirement to be a member of the SO/AC you are beginning the petition in? So my son the graduate student, or Justin Bieber, could approach a SO/AC to begin a petition. That troubles me, particularly when it comes to starting a petition to remove a SO/AC’s appointed director.* p. 12, first bullet: Note 1, revise first clause to read: “for any rejection power, such as the power to reject the Budget, the 15-day period only applies…” Note 2, first line, change “which” to “that.” Last line, change “singing” to “signing” (even though I like the idea of a singing contract). p. 13, first bullet, insert hyphen between “information” and “sharing”. Second bullet, replace “decision” with “decisions” Line after fourth bullet: add a bullet. Decision section: capitalize “Community Forum” (this mistake occurs every time this was “cut-and-pasted” in the document). Second bullet: replace “single designator” with “Sole Designator.” Enforcement section*: Change first heading so it reads “Initiate an escalation process to remove all or part of the Board.” We are not compelled to remove the whole board when a more surgical approach would be just as effective and less disruptive. First bullet point: revise to read: “If successful, the Sole Designator informs the Board (or removed directors) they have been removed and are no longer on the Board.”* *This is a key point – board removal/recall must be self-effective. The director is removed because of the decision, without any action taken by the director or the Board. Requiring the Board member to affirmatively step down is a mistake. * Second bullet point: revise to read: “If the Board (or any removed director) refuses to recognize the Sole Designator’s exercise of its power….” Third bullet point: replace “is satisfied with” with “accepts.” *p. 15, Enforcement: The phrase “majority consensus” is an oxymoron and must be removed. A decision by a mere majority can’t be a consensus. A web search found no references to “majority consensus” as a decisional outcome, only as a socio-cultural phenomenon (e.g. “The majority consensus is that Nickelback is a terrible band.”) Replace with “a majority decision.” * p. 16, fourth paragraph, last sentence: replace “according to” with “to trigger a conference call, the next step in“. Last paragraph, change “IANA Functions’ Budget” to “IANA Functions Budget” (i.e., remove apostrophe – this happens twice). p. 17, first sentence of “The Power to Reject…”: *Remove ”ICANN’s Bylaws describe how power is exercised in ICANN.” This is a bizarre way to describe Bylaws, though it sounds exciting. Replace with “ICANN’s Bylaws describe ICANN’s purpose and the internal rules that govern ICANN’s operations, including how decisions are made.” * “Standard Bylaws” bullet: remove “other.” Next paragraph after that, third line: replace “the requirement for the” with “this”. Next paragraph, third line: remove “the” before “Standard” *Last paragraph on page: remove “reason or”. We do have to provide some reason, but the removal is “without cause” (which is a legal term with a specific meaning and should always be stated as phrase).* p. 18, *first paragraph: replace “perceives that there is a significant issue with” with “believes there is a reason to remove”. The original language here overstates the case. Escalation section: Here especially, the idea that “anyone” (e.g., Justin Bieber) can begin a petition in, e.g., the ASO to remove a director the ASO appointed is troublesome. This should be changed.* Second bullet: second line, replace “rapidly” with “promptly”. Fourth line: replace “schedules” with “schedule”. Conference Call section: first bullet, references to SO and AC should be singular not plural. Second line, replace “justification” with “explanation.” *Deciding to hold a Community Forum Section: Is it really the case that 3 SO/AC’s are needed to hold a Community Forum on removal of a SO/AC appointed director? This seems terribly wrong, when every other decision is made by the appointing SO/AC alone. This gives blocking power to the other SO/ACs for this right through a procedural hurdle, which is not right. *Holding a Community Forum section: third bullet , third line: replace “present its case” with “explain its reasons” – the original phrasing overstates the requirement. p. 20, first line: replace “a detailed explanation of why it has chosen to do so” with “an explanation of the reasons for removal.” first bullet point: second line, insert “within the Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee” after “support”. *Naming a Replacement section: Don’t we want to make it clear that the replacement will be chosen before the Board member is removed?* Overview Section: first line, replace “significant issue” with “reason to remove.” Second line, replace “to” with “the.” p. 22, last paragraph, fourth line: remove “two” – this is not correct. p. 23, first line: remove “or reason.” Interim Board section, first paragraph: third and fourth line, replace “Under no circumstances will” with “Except under extreme circumstances,” and insert “will not” after “Interim Board.” Second paragraph, first line, remove “of.” (I look forward to the power-sharing that the Interim Board will be forced to engage in….) p. 24, Processes section: first line, change “nominated” to “selected”. Third line change “nominates” to “selects”. Remove next sentence and replace with “The President and CEO serves as the 16th Board member as one of the duties of the office (*ex officio*).” Last sentence, replace “elected” with “appointed”. Overview section: replace “so entrenched into the Board” (this was written by a professional writer?) with “seriously entrenched in the Board”. p. 26, Advising the ICANN Board, replace bullet point with “If the community has instructed the Sole Designator to use its power, the Sole Designator will notify the ICANN Board of the decision. The ICANN Board is automatically removed as a result, and the Interim Board is installed.” *Again, there is no need to add a requirement to step down, removal is removal. *The Power to Approve Changes: Repeat comment from before to change bizarre but exciting description of Bylaws. p. 30, second bullet in the box, fourth line, replace “approve” with “enact the proposal.” *Changes to ICANN’s Mission section, first bullet point – this is still in flux and needs to reflect whatever we end up with.* *p. 31, first heading: Remove and replace with “Commitment to Respect Internationally Recognized Human Rights” First paragraph: Remove first sentence and replace with: “The CCWG-Accountability sought legal advice about whether the IANA Functions Contract imposes specific Human Rights obligations on ICANN that would cease to exist upon the termination of the IANA Functions Contract.” Second paragraph, last line: insert “a commitment to” before “Human Rights*.” Draft Bylaw: Remove underlining on fourth and fifth lines. Last paragraph, second line: remove “a language will be added to the Bylaws” and replace with “Bylaw”. Last word: replace “the” with “a”. p. 33, second bullet: replace “pro-bono” with “pro bono”. Fourth bullet: replace “declaration” with “binding decision”. Next paragraph, last line: change “on” to “of”. *I’m a bit troubled by saying that the “The powers of the Independent Review Process are strictly limited to confirming or rejecting ICANN’s decisions.” If this were really the case, the decisions would be one-word answers: “confirmed” or “rejected.” Even if they expand on this to explain their decision, this statement would seem to exclude things like the extremely helpful comments made in recent IRP decisions about the flaws and shortcomings of the IRP process. I understand the sentiment to avoid mission creep by the IRP, but this may be unduly restrictive. *Next paragraph: This is repetitive of the bullet just above. I would remove the last sentence of the bullet, and leave it stated here. Request for Reconsideration Section: Second line, change “to” to “of” third line, capitalize “committee” and put “(BGC)” after it. Remove “which affect a party” and replace with “that affect a person or entity”. p. 34, Incorporating the AoC section: First sentence, second line: after “NTIA” put “, an agency within the U.S. Department of Commerce (DOC)” Otherwise, the repeated references in the box to “DOC” make no sense. p. 35, first sentence after box, second line: replace “in tact” with “intact.” Second bullet from bottom, last line: remove “currently.” *Last bullet: This seems wrong. I thought we weren’t going to have reviews change rules in mid-stream. This seems completely inconsistent with the “take care not to disrupt Reviews in process” concept in the bullet above. This bullet should be removed.* p. 36, first two paragraphs, change “Structural Reviews” to “Reviews of Structure and Operations”. Second paragraph, last line: Remove “Structural Reviews” and replace with “the accountability review.” Concerns section, third line: replace “on” with “regarding”. p. 37, *second paragraph: This refers solely to the GAC, and should be changed to be specific*. Also “agreeable” should be changed to “acceptable” at the beginning of the second and fifth lines, to match the actual wording of the Bylaw. *Third paragraph, I think this is phrased in an overly inflammatory fashion*.* I would put a period after “advice” on the fifth line and insert a beginning to the next sentence as follows “The Bylaws do not specify the level of support that “GAC advice” must have; therefore, the Board would be required to follow this process” and then pick up with “even if that advice….” The next sentence after that seems strained and unintelligible; I would change that sentence to say “If the ICANN Board was presented with non-consensus GAC advice and was obligated to seek a “mutually acceptable solution” if it rejected that advice, this could raise accountability issues with the remainder of the community.”* *p. 39, Conclusion: second line, says that “some of “ the accountability mechanisms are outlined above. Which ones are missing??* Fifth line, insert “accountability inherent in ICANN’s” before “historical.” *Last section: This seems odd and tacked on. Was this intended to go somewhere else (other than after the Conclusion)?* On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com
wrote:
All,
Please find attached the first full draft of the executive summary which will be discussed on the call tomorrow.
Apologies for the delay in getting this out but people have been working almost around the clock.
Bernard Turcotte Staff Support
for the co-chairs.
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