Thanks for the headers up Jimson. I am checking with my source to confirm how long it would take ICANN to translate to French, where it is going to be impossible to use their service, i would engage the service of a professional to get it done. It would interest you to know that the organizers have a french version of their website (https://internetsummitafrica.org/fr) - that's how important it is to reach out to delegates from the Francophone areas. The techie part of the summit is basically from the the 21st to the 28th of May, which features workshops from various organisations. The Conference part of the summit is the target and has its opening ceremony on the 29th of May. Having some of our materials in French would also be clear evidence of our interest for diversity, where the need arises in future. LOR. On Tue, May 9, 2017 8:13 pm, Jimson Olufuye wrote:

ICANN may need 6 weeks to do anything like this but it is barely 2 weeks to the event. Besides I don't think translated materials are necessary in a Summit where the key medium of communication is English. I also think the BC Factsheet may be sufficient for the Outreach especially that the Summit is chiefly for techies which fits more with the ISPCP, Registry and Registrar biz.

Cheers,

JO --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya. From: "amack" <amack@amglobal.com> Date: 5/9/17 4:20 pm To: "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org>, "bc-outreach@icann.org" <bc-outreach@icann.org> Cc: "lawrence@microboss.org" <lawrence@microboss.org>

Thanks Lawrence. Quick question: I seem to remember that ICANN had budget to do some of the translation and printing. Jimson, you may remember the answer ‹ might they agree to do this too?

Outreach members, as the time is short, please do send in comments as you have them.

Cheers, Andrew

___________________

Andrew Mack Principal C: +1 (202) 256-1077 O: +1 (202) 642-6429 Skype: Andrew.Mack

AMGlobal Consulting 2001 Massachusetts Avenue, NW First Floor Washington, DC 20036 USA www.amglobal.com <http://www.amglobal.com/> | amack@amglobal.com

On 5/9/17, 4:08 AM, "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org> wrote:

...

Dear Outreach Members,

My apologies for not turning in this earlier as promised, there was a need to review my earlier proposal so as to reduce the proposed cost for the outreach after my consultations with Andrew early on friday.

Please find attached my proposal for outreach to the Business community that would be attending the African Internet Summit in Nairobi, Kenya. The AIS is one of the biggest meeting on the continent because allows for great collaboration among all stakeholders. It is co-hosted by Afrinic (the regional RIR) and AfNOG with Tespok as the local host for this year. ICANN, ISOC, African IGF, AfricaCERT, AfTLD, AfREN and AfPIF are all partners at this years event, with all bringing in a large mix of their stakeholders to the meeting. over 1000 participants are expected in Nairobi in May.

I will be actively participating at the conference, exploring the business network for potential BC members who are a fit for our constituency and looking forward to the approval of my BoF session on "Start Up Incubation and the Future of the Internet" during the conference.

Thanks for your kind approval.

Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.

_______________________________________________ Bc-outreach mailing list Bc-outreach@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/bc-outreach

Dear Marylin, The African Internet Summit is a multi-stakeholder ICT conference and NOT an ISP event. Asides businesses, delegates to the conference are drawn from the academia, public sector, technical organizations, government institutions and civil society. Unarguably, this is one of the largest ICT conference on the Continent. You’ll agree also that Africa rates high in the list of regions that ICANN supports outreach interventions to, it is gradually becoming a region accounting for some balance in diversity within ICANN, hence advocacy efforts can't at this point be said to be too much. I am aware you have been passionate in seeking ICANN’s support for the BC in its outreach efforts in under-served regions, we can’t go back now advocating that it is too much. Where there may be other BC members attending the summit, it is good for the business community as it promotes us as a strong voice which we should be in Africa. It would also encourage more businesses present to engage when they can be pointed to their peers who are already engaging within ICANN. However they are not going there with an outreach mindset, neither would we measure their participation along established outputs aligned with BC outreach objectives. Right now I am the only one so far that has a proposal before the outreach committee to conduct outreach for the BC in Kenya. If there is any other we should review their proposals here. I will be in Kenya as a member of the business community, advocating for business, ICANN and engagement opportunities like the fellowship program which served as my point of entry into the community, asides having to facilitate a session on Start up Incubation and the Internet – a tremendous opportunity for engagement in my region. Ultimately this conference and opportunity provide me a means to achieve all the objectives set out in my proposal which aligns with the outreach objectives of the BC. This is a report on the NCUC outreach at last year’s edition of the conference: "The Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) Outreach Session took place, chaired by Anriette Esterhuysen. This event introduced NCUC to organisations and individuals at the Africa Internet Summit. The session showcased some of its successes regarding policy making and impacting policy making within ICANN through a series of brief introductions by the active members. The session also highlighted the importance of domain names related policies and how to participate effectively to voice African non-commercial users concerns". Where the NCUC considers the AIS a veritable ground for outreach, the BC should have an equally strong justification to engage at the AIS. There may have some other members of the BC attending the meeting, but I am particularly interested in outreach that would lead to new membership, create more awareness for the BC and advocate support for small businesses on the continent through my session. This is the basis for requesting BC support and which I hope would be timely. Please accept the assurances of my warm regards, Lawrence Olawale-Roberts. On Thu, May 11, 2017 1:44 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

just seeing this. I am sorry it is so late and I will review it but I am at CSTD and one of only three non governmental negotiators on critical language, so it may take rest of day. However, I am still asking why the BC is sending a BC member to do recruitment in what is considered ISPCP land -- and whether we will encounter what we have in the past -- a few years ago - when we were accused of poaching members that belonged in the ISPCP.

Also, we have BC members in Kenya, and I am first interested in understanding if they are participating and can distribute materials. So, at this point, I am thinking that I can't support this particular proposal, but am interested in proposals that engage with actual business users.

Even those who attend this event are the engineers or DNS operators from businesses, not the business user side.

[sorry, suffer from attending RIPE and ARIN conferences in the past! ]

So, at this point, I am not supporting but I will look closely at the rationale.

Can we verify if the Kenya based BC members are already attending? If so, they can distribute any BC materials.

Marilyn

________________________________ From: bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org <bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 4:08 AM To: bc-outreach@icann.org Cc: lawrence@microboss.org Subject: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

Dear Outreach Members,

My apologies for not turning in this earlier as promised, there was a need to review my earlier proposal so as to reduce the proposed cost for the outreach after my consultations with Andrew early on friday.

Please find attached my proposal for outreach to the Business community that would be attending the African Internet Summit in Nairobi, Kenya. The AIS is one of the biggest meeting on the continent because allows for great collaboration among all stakeholders. It is co-hosted by Afrinic (the regional RIR) and AfNOG with Tespok as the local host for this year. ICANN, ISOC, African IGF, AfricaCERT, AfTLD, AfREN and AfPIF are all partners at this years event, with all bringing in a large mix of their stakeholders to the meeting. over 1000 participants are expected in Nairobi in May.

I will be actively participating at the conference, exploring the business network for potential BC members who are a fit for our constituency and looking forward to the approval of my BoF session on "Start Up Incubation and the Future of the Internet" during the conference.

Thanks for your kind approval.

Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.

However, Andrew, we have a senior BC member already speaking and engaging. I do not support sending a second "ranger" to this event. We need to be focused on business user events and this is clearly as also the organizers have confirmed a technical community event. Marilyn ________________________________ From: amack <amack@amglobal.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:52 AM To: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; Marilyn Cade Cc: lawrence@microboss.org; bc-outreach@icann.org Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya. All, Given that we have the resources, this is a modest proposal, and the fact that this does seem like a large gathering, I am inclined to say yes to this one. The outlay is limited and a part of our success lies not just in being visible but in being fairly consistently visible. Let¹s discuss on our call, but I appreciate Lawrence¹s enthusiasm and desire to carry the BC flag and this looks like a worthwhile venue. Thanks, Andrew ___________________ Andrew Mack Principal C: +1 (202) 256-1077 O: +1 (202) 642-6429 Skype: Andrew.Mack AMGlobal Consulting 2001 Massachusetts Avenue, NW First Floor Washington, DC 20036 USA www.amglobal.com<http://www.amglobal.com> <http://www.amglobal.com/> | amack@amglobal.com AMGlobal Consulting I Emerging Markets, CSR consulting, etc<http://www.amglobal.com/> www.amglobal.com AMG helps clients do more and better business in emerging markets. New Market Entry, Social Engagement, CSR consulting, etc. AMGlobal Consulting I Emerging Markets, CSR consulting, etc<http://www.amglobal.com/> www.amglobal.com AMG helps clients do more and better business in emerging markets. New Market Entry, Social Engagement, CSR consulting, etc. On 5/13/17, 8:15 AM, "Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts" <icann@microboss.org> wrote:

Dear Marylin,

The African Internet Summit is a multi-stakeholder ICT conference and NOT an ISP event. Asides businesses, delegates to the conference are drawn from the academia, public sector, technical organizations, government institutions and civil society. Unarguably, this is one of the largest ICT conference on the Continent.

You¹ll agree also that Africa rates high in the list of regions that ICANN supports outreach interventions to, it is gradually becoming a region accounting for some balance in diversity within ICANN, hence advocacy efforts can't at this point be said to be too much. I am aware you have been passionate in seeking ICANN¹s support for the BC in its outreach efforts in under-served regions, we can¹t go back now advocating that it is too much.

Where there may be other BC members attending the summit, it is good for the business community as it promotes us as a strong voice which we should be in Africa. It would also encourage more businesses present to engage when they can be pointed to their peers who are already engaging within ICANN. However they are not going there with an outreach mindset, neither would we measure their participation along established outputs aligned with BC outreach objectives. Right now I am the only one so far that has a proposal before the outreach committee to conduct outreach for the BC in Kenya. If there is any other we should review their proposals here.

I will be in Kenya as a member of the business community, advocating for business, ICANN and engagement opportunities like the fellowship program which served as my point of entry into the community, asides having to facilitate a session on Start up Incubation and the Internet ­ a tremendous opportunity for engagement in my region. Ultimately this conference and opportunity provide me a means to achieve all the objectives set out in my proposal which aligns with the outreach objectives of the BC.

This is a report on the NCUC outreach at last year¹s edition of the conference: "The Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) Outreach Session took place, chaired by Anriette Esterhuysen. This event introduced NCUC to organisations and individuals at the Africa Internet Summit. The session showcased some of its successes regarding policy making and impacting policy making within ICANN through a series of brief introductions by the active members. The session also highlighted the importance of domain names related policies and how to participate effectively to voice African non-commercial users concerns".

Where the NCUC considers the AIS a veritable ground for outreach, the BC should have an equally strong justification to engage at the AIS.

There may have some other members of the BC attending the meeting, but I am particularly interested in outreach that would lead to new membership, create more awareness for the BC and advocate support for small businesses on the continent through my session. This is the basis for requesting BC support and which I hope would be timely.

Please accept the assurances of my warm regards,

Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.

On Thu, May 11, 2017 1:44 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...

just seeing this. I am sorry it is so late and I will review it but I am at CSTD and one of only three non governmental negotiators on critical language, so it may take rest of day. However, I am still asking why the BC is sending a BC member to do recruitment in what is considered ISPCP land -- and whether we will encounter what we have in the past -- a few years ago - when we were accused of poaching members that belonged in the ISPCP.

Also, we have BC members in Kenya, and I am first interested in understanding if they are participating and can distribute materials. So, at this point, I am thinking that I can't support this particular proposal, but am interested in proposals that engage with actual business users.

Even those who attend this event are the engineers or DNS operators from businesses, not the business user side.

[sorry, suffer from attending RIPE and ARIN conferences in the past! ]

So, at this point, I am not supporting but I will look closely at the rationale.

Can we verify if the Kenya based BC members are already attending? If so, they can distribute any BC materials.

Marilyn

________________________________ From: bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org <bc-outreach-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 4:08 AM To: bc-outreach@icann.org Cc: lawrence@microboss.org Subject: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

Dear Outreach Members,

My apologies for not turning in this earlier as promised, there was a need to review my earlier proposal so as to reduce the proposed cost for the outreach after my consultations with Andrew early on friday.

Please find attached my proposal for outreach to the Business community that would be attending the African Internet Summit in Nairobi, Kenya. The AIS is one of the biggest meeting on the continent because allows for great collaboration among all stakeholders. It is co-hosted by Afrinic (the regional RIR) and AfNOG with Tespok as the local host for this year. ICANN, ISOC, African IGF, AfricaCERT, AfTLD, AfREN and AfPIF are all partners at this years event, with all bringing in a large mix of their stakeholders to the meeting. over 1000 participants are expected in Nairobi in May.

I will be actively participating at the conference, exploring the business network for potential BC members who are a fit for our constituency and looking forward to the approval of my BoF session on "Start Up Incubation and the Future of the Internet" during the conference.

Thanks for your kind approval.

Lawrence Olawale-Roberts.

_______________________________________________ Bc-outreach mailing list Bc-outreach@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/bc-outreach

May I solicit that we be a bit more civil with our choice of words as a team here. There is no seniority in the BC and our voting tier is on policy and operational issues only. I hold my onions anywhere, rangers don't do that. Lawrence. On Mon, May 15, 2017 10:23 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

Thanks Coach, this is appreciated. Lawrence. On Mon, May 15, 2017 5:14 pm, Marilyn Cade wrote:

😊

The example I used is not intended to be negative, but to just use an analogy that is sort of humorous. I apologize that you were offended.

And in fact, actually, Rangers were law enforcement and were bound by law to adhere to law, not opinion. But that was long ago and far away and perhaps not a suitable analogy, so I repeat my apology.

________________________________ From: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:41 PM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: amack; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; lawrence@microboss.org; bc-outreach@icann.org Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

May I solicit that we be a bit more civil with our choice of words as a team here. There is no seniority in the BC and our voting tier is on policy and operational issues only.

I hold my onions anywhere, rangers don't do that.

Lawrence.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 10:23 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...

thanks, Lawrence for this copy of the invitation. Let me see if I can finalize our joint understanding. from today's call: The BC will fund $1500 for travel and an additional $200 [roughly which to me means at least some leeway of maybe an additional $50 or $100 with discretion to print the Fact Sheet. I hope that you - Lawrence -- can arrange to print that with a local printer and carry it, or negotiate with Waudo for printing and hand carrying, and in any case, the printing cost up to that limit would be reimbursed for the fact sheet. In English. There are also small cards and those need to be sent to Waudo and Lawrence. Frankly, I do not use them much but they are helpful in many countries, so if they are available, perhaps they can be sent -- to Waudo and Lawrence? This event topic is focused on "Small projects that promote Internet Development" Now that the BC has a sponsored speaker -- you --to take up this issue and also advance awareness of ICANN we should consider how to maximize both your messages but the 2-3 minutes that are about the BC, as that is the purpose of the BC sponsorship. Can you advise how long your speaking role is and what we can do in terms of distribution of materials in the room. As this is the last day of the event, one of my contacts advised that many non technical attendees will have left. I ask that Waudo and you consult and then provide advise on how the BC makes sure that the social events include you both. ________________________________ From: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:41 AM To: Lawrence Olawale-Roberts Cc: Marilyn Cade; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; amack; lawrence@microboss.org; bc-outreach@icann.org Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya. My invitation. Lawrence On Tue, May 16, 2017 6:24 am, Lawrence Olawale-Roberts wrote:

Thanks Coach, this is appreciated.

Lawrence.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 5:14 pm, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...

😊

The example I used is not intended to be negative, but to just use an analogy that is sort of humorous. I apologize that you were offended.

And in fact, actually, Rangers were law enforcement and were bound by law to adhere to law, not opinion. But that was long ago and far away and perhaps not a suitable analogy, so I repeat my apology.

________________________________ From: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:41 PM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: amack; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; lawrence@microboss.org; bc-outreach@icann.org Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

May I solicit that we be a bit more civil with our choice of words as a team here. There is no seniority in the BC and our voting tier is on policy and operational issues only.

I hold my onions anywhere, rangers don't do that.

Lawrence.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 10:23 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...

Thanks All, and thanks again Marylin for the pointers. I would be securing the services of a local printer to have the fact sheet and cards printed out and would hand carry them to the event. i would love to see a sample of the small cards we have (in soft copy) if it would not be possible to have the at Kenya. I plan to speak about the BC early in my presentation as the body within ICANN that sponsored me to the event and dedicate 3 minutes of my slide (2-3 slides) to providing information on the BC. Am working around 10 minutes for my presentation until advised by the organizers. The presentation would be on the organizers website so i intend to have links in there that would lead visitors to relevant portions of the BC website, for those requiring further information. Good point you've raised Andrew and would look forward to that meeting in Jorburg. Thanks again, LOR On Fri, May 19, 2017 10:16 am, amack wrote:

All good advice and a good model for us. Thanks for the suggestions Marilyn. We want to support our ambassadors and make the process as simple as we can for anyone who is going to represent the BC.

The whole issue around getting materials printed + transported, about coordinating with local BC and allies and other things might be worth a quick discussion when we’re in Joburg as many of our Outreach experts will be there. Anything we can do to standardize/make it easy to get things organized I think will help us both be more efficient and and lower cost (in time and $) for our volunteers.

Great weekend all, Andrew ___________________

Andrew Mack Principal C: +1 (202) 256-1077 O: +1 (202) 642-6429 Skype: Andrew.Mack

[cid:33EE5ED2-59F9-46E9-82D1-7EF798373E1B]

AMGlobal Consulting 2001 Massachusetts Avenue, NW First Floor Washington, DC 20036 USA www.amglobal.com<http://www.amglobal.com/> | amack@amglobal.com

On 5/18/17, 4:49 PM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@hotmail.com<mailto:marilynscade@hotmail.com>> wrote:

thanks, Lawrence for this copy of the invitation.

Let me see if I can finalize our joint understanding. from today's call:

The BC will fund $1500 for travel and an additional $200 [roughly which to me means at least some leeway of maybe an additional $50 or $100 with discretion to print the Fact Sheet.

I hope that you - Lawrence -- can arrange to print that with a local printer and carry it, or negotiate with Waudo for printing and hand carrying, and in any case, the printing cost up to that limit would be reimbursed for the fact sheet. In English. There are also small cards and those need to be sent to Waudo and Lawrence. Frankly, I do not use them much but they are helpful in many countries, so if they are available, perhaps they can be sent -- to Waudo and Lawrence?

This event topic is focused on "Small projects that promote Internet Development"

Now that the BC has a sponsored speaker -- you --to take up this issue and

also advance awareness of ICANN we should consider how to maximize both your

messages but the 2-3 minutes that are about the BC, as that is the purpose of the BC

sponsorship.

Can you advise how long your speaking role is and what we can do in terms of distribution

of materials in the room. As this is the last day of the event, one of my contacts advised that

many non technical attendees will have left.

I ask that Waudo and you consult and then provide advise on how the BC makes sure that the social events include you both.

________________________________ From: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org<mailto:icann@microboss.org>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:41 AM To: Lawrence Olawale-Roberts Cc: Marilyn Cade; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; amack; lawrence@microboss.org<mailto:lawrence@microboss.org>; bc-outreach@icann.org<mailto:bc-outreach@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

My invitation.

Lawrence

On Tue, May 16, 2017 6:24 am, Lawrence Olawale-Roberts wrote:

...

Thanks Coach, this is appreciated.

Lawrence.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 5:14 pm, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...

😊

The example I used is not intended to be negative, but to just use an analogy that is sort of humorous. I apologize that you were offended.

And in fact, actually, Rangers were law enforcement and were bound by law to adhere to law, not opinion. But that was long ago and far away and perhaps not a suitable analogy, so I repeat my apology.

________________________________ From: Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts <icann@microboss.org<mailto:icann@microboss.org>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:41 PM To: Marilyn Cade Cc: amack; Lawrence OlaWale-Roberts; lawrence@microboss.org<mailto:lawrence@microboss.org>; bc-outreach@icann.org<mailto:bc-outreach@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Bc-outreach] BC Outreach to Kenya.

May I solicit that we be a bit more civil with our choice of words as a team here. There is no seniority in the BC and our voting tier is on policy and operational issues only.

I hold my onions anywhere, rangers don't do that.

Lawrence.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 10:23 am, Marilyn Cade wrote:

...