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Fwd: Famous Four "dead"
by Carlton Samuels Aug. 13, 2018

Aug. 13, 2018

Don't know if y'all seen this but seems the times they are a-changing...some more. Trust but verify are the watch words. -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= http://domainincite.com/23284-famous-four-is-dead-new-registry-promises-spa… “ ..... Moving forward there are several changes being made with regard to the overall strategy of the portfolio of gTLDs, the main one being a change to a ‘quality over quantity’ ethos and focusing on working with our Registrar Partners to sharply reduce abuse and spam registrations.”

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Re: [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Fwd: Famous Four "dead"
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 13, 2018

Aug. 13, 2018

And that won't change until/unless we have a significant number of Directors who question that act of fait - ie religion. Alan At 13/08/2018 02:12 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >The existing ammunition has been more than enough to convince the rational. >More of it is unlikely to convince those who see the entitlement to domain >expansion as an act of faith. > >___________________ >Evan Leibovitch, Toronto >@evanleibovitch/@el56 > >On Aug 12, 2018 4:17 PM, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> >wrote: > >Don't know if y'all seen this but seems the times they are >a-changing...some more. Trust but verify are the watch words. > >-Carlton > >============================== >*Carlton A Samuels* > >*Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* >============================= > > > >http://domainincite.com/23284-famous-four-is-dead-new-registry-promises-spa… > > > >â >..... >Moving forward there are several changes being made with regard to the >overall strategy of the portfolio of gTLDs, the main one being a change to >a âquality over quantityâ ethos and focusing on working with our Registrar >Partners to sharply reduce abuse and spam registrations.â >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list >CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg >_______________________________________________ >GTLD-WG mailing list >GTLD-WG(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtld-wg > >Working Group direct URL: >https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs > >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list >CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > >_______________________________________________ >GTLD-WG mailing list >GTLD-WG(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtld-wg > >Working Group direct URL: >https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs

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Fwd: URGENT - WT5 proposal for 3-letter country codes
by Maureen Hilyard Aug. 11, 2018

Aug. 11, 2018

Thank you Marita.. and can be on the ALAC record as well... I also support the wording that Carlos suggests. Maureen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net> Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [CPWG] URGENT - WT5 proposal for 3-letter country codes To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> I am on record as supporting this wording. Marita On 8/11/2018 8:43 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: Hi everyone If you have been following the discussions in WT5 you will see that there has been a lot of controversy over the GNSO consensus process on Country and Territory Names and how best to come to a decision on each of the key issues that are being discussed. With regards to an agreement over 3-letter country codes, Carlos Raul Gutierrez has proposed the following suggestion to help this process move forward, I believe we should consider his proposal as a reasonable compromise considering all the discussion that has taken place and send our support (or otherwise) to our ALAC co-Chair. The ALAC views could be coordinated by the CPWG leads but will be required *by Tuesday??*. *This is urgent, as it appears that consensus calls will be received by the co-Chairs during the week and as they will have to prepare for the next WT5 meeting on the 22nd, it would be good to include an ALAC opinion as well. * “Dear Annebeth, As you have heard me (too) many times before, I admire the track record of preceding, clearly focused public interest 3 letter geo-TLDs, like the ones from Catalonia in Spain, Brittany's in France, and Serbia's 3 letter TLDs Now that I re-stated my rationale for such a clear-cut public interest case in an email to Rosalia (for geo use ONLY, accessible -i.e. cheap- and non-profit), I hereby submit to the WT my final revised language suggestion, which is ONLY applicable for 3-Letter codes. It would substitute the following final paragraph in the relevant section which deals with 3-Letter codes: “*The SubPro may want to consider recommending whether any future application/revision/delegation process to be established (either generic or restricted to the Geographic categories only), should determine if, when, and how specific interested parties, such as relevant public international, national or sub-national public authorities, may apply for country and territory names*" My suggestion for a FORWARD looking option is: “*ICANN may only consider applications of ISO 3166-1 Alpha 3 Letter Codes submitted by relevant governmental authorities, ccTLD managers and public interest/public benefit entities*.” This paragraph is, in my view, a sensible part of a forward-looking recommendation that could go ahead with broader WT consensus. And if it does not, please make sure it is recorded as an objection against a permanent restriction of the delegation of the ISO 3-Letter list. Thanks to all, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez" _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing listCPWG@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg

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Subsequent Procedures Questions
by Jonathan Zuck Aug. 10, 2018

Aug. 10, 2018

Folks, I confess that I'm concerned we've gotten a month into the comment period and have only focused on process and the format of a spreadsheet. I'll try to do better next time. We REALLY need to decide which questions we think ALAC is uniquely positioned to answer and what that answer should be. We've got a spreadsheet. If you're having trouble with it, don't let the week slip by. Here's the Annex. Read through it, highlight stuff you think is important for the ALAC comment and scribble what that answer might be, scan it in and send it to me. Put it all in email. Send smoke signals. I don't care. We need to finalize this list of which questions to answer on our next call so it is my intention to only talk about the questions on which there is some disagreement among commenters and try and resolve those disagreements. We will then divide it up for drafting purposes the normal way. Come prepared to advocate for a particular question or set of questions you think the ALAC should be answering during this public comment period. Your opinion after Wednesday will carry a great deal LESS weight. Comment in ANY way you like and I'll try to reconcile them for the call. Thank you! Jonathan Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [INFLogo2]

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Meeting Invitation: Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 15 August 2018 at 13:00 UTC for 120mins
by ICANN At-Large Staff Aug. 10, 2018

Aug. 10, 2018

If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number. Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know. Please note: Working Group will be meeting at rotating times of 19:00 and 13:00 UTC, Alternating weekly. Please note we will have FR & ES Interpretation for this call. Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 15 August 2018 at 13:00 UTC - 15:00 UTC for 120 mins French & Spanish Interpretation will be provided. For other times: https://timeanddate.com/s/3khj The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/TxJpBQ AC Room: https://participate.icann.org/cpwg/ ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 3535 FR: 1838 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/ At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://D0C9D8AD-F5F9-47D1-8000-12B5977AB503/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Message to RALO liaisons to WT5
by Yrjö Länsipuro Aug. 9, 2018

Aug. 9, 2018

Dear fellow RALO WT5 liaisons, An action item from the ALAC call 24 April asks me to take the initiative to develop a common ALAC position on geographic names in the subsequent gTLD procedures. During that call, Alan suggested that this effort could involve the five RALO liaisons to the WT5 and other interested people, and mentioned also CPWG. I have not acted so far on this AI, because in my view, our only meaningful contribution to the WT5 process would be to suggest compromises to its most difficult issues, including names of non-capital cities, which WT5 has spent most of its time on, mostly engaged in a fruitless dispute between the extremes. The atmosphere so far might not have been conducive for discussing compromise proposals... However, at ICANN62, there finally was a push by co-chairs for “meeting in the middle”, especially concerning non-capital cities, and for "seeking convergence on principles." See slides of the 28 June session: https://static.ptbl.co/static/attachments/179943/1530207670.pdf?1530207670 <https://static.ptbl.co/static/attachments/179943/1530207670.pdf?1530207670> Now might be the time for an ALAC contribution along the lines that Alan has often repeated: there should be no big winners and big losers in the WT 5. In others words, a compromise, something in the middle. That’s why I’m asking for your thoughts, ideas and suggestions on how we could facilitate finding compromises in the WT5, especially on the issue of non-capital cities. This is late in the day in the life of WT5, so please react soon. After an email exchange, we could ask the staff to arrange a call, if necessary. I’m also asking CPWG to take note of this effort, the results of which I hope could be presented to CPWG soon. Yrjö

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ALAC Statement regarding EPDP
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 9, 2018

Aug. 9, 2018

Yesterday, the EPDP Members were asked to present a 1-3 minute summary of their groups position in regard to the EPDP. The following is the statement agreed to by me, Hadia, Holly and Seun. 1. The ALAC believes that the EPDP MUST succeed and will be working toward that end. 2. We have a support structure that we are organizing to ensure that what we present here is understood by our community and has their input and support. 3. The ALAC believes that individual registrants are users and we have regularly worked on their behalf (as in the PDP that we initiated to protect registrant rights when their domains expire), if registrant needs differ from those of the 4 billion Internet users who are not registrants, those latter needs take precedence. We believe that GDPR and this EPDP are such a situation. 4. Although some Internet users consult WHOIS and will not be able to do so in some cases going forward, our main concern is access for those third parties who work to ensure that the Internet is a safe and secure place for users and that means that law enforcement, cybersecurity researchers, those combatting fraud in domain names, and others who help protect users from phishing, malware, spam, fraud, DDoS attacks and such can work with minimal reduction in access to WHOIS data. All within the constraints of GDPR of course.

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Interested in EPDP??
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 8, 2018

Aug. 8, 2018

If the EPDP, GDPR, Temporary Specification, WHOIS and RDS is of interest to you, the mailing list you want to subscribe to is: the REGISTRATION-ISSUES-WG. You can subscribe at https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg. Alan

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REMINDER / Meeting Invitation: Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 08 August 2018 at 19:00 UTC for 90mins
by ICANN At-Large Staff Aug. 8, 2018

Aug. 8, 2018

If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number. Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know. Please note: Working Group will be meeting at rotating times of 19:00 and 13:00 UTC, Alternating weekly. Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 08 August 2018 at 19:00 UTC for 90mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/y94y6jyb The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/TAtpBQ AC Room: https://participate.icann.org/cpwg/ ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 3535 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/ At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://D0C9D8AD-F5F9-47D1-8000-12B5977AB503/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] [GTLD-WG] Re: ALAC Statement regarding EPDP
by Lutz Donnerhacke Aug. 8, 2018

Aug. 8, 2018

* Greg Shatan wrote: >4. I have seen no evidence that the European Data Protection people have thought about how WHOIS/RDS can function under GDPR. The proposal of „ultra-thin“ whois can be used to be compliant with different regional laws incl. GDRP. Whois.iana.org does already implement this approach, so there is a) an implementation and b) experience with the model. I’m too tired to reiterate it again and again. As long as ICANN insist in a single procedure for an (artificially assumed) harmonized international law, it will fail. I’m not participating discussions about such a fictional prerequisite. Lutz Donnerhacke

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