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Fwd: [council] ICANN81 GNSO Policy Briefing & ICANN81 Policy Outlook Report
by Justine Chew Oct. 30, 2024

Oct. 30, 2024

Sharing, for those who are interested. Kind regards, Justine ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Julie Bisland via council <council(a)icann.org> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 at 04:16 Subject: [council] ICANN81 GNSO Policy Briefing & ICANN81 Policy Outlook Report Dear All, On behalf of the GNSO Team, I am happy to report that the* GNSO Policy Briefing for ICANN81* is now available for download: http://go.icann.org/gnsobriefing. In addition, the *ICANN81 Policy Outlook Report* is available: https://go.icann.org/outlook81 Happy reading! Best Regards, Julie -- *Julie Bisland* Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *Skype ID:* 79613b691cb8a6c1 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…> _______________________________________________ council mailing list -- council(a)icann.org To unsubscribe send an email to council-leave(a)icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN81 Policy Outlook Report is now available
by Justine Chew Oct. 29, 2024

Oct. 29, 2024

On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 at 04:17, ICANN At-Large Staff via ALAC-Announce < alac-announce(a)icann.org> wrote: > Dear All, > > > > The ICANN81 Policy Outlook report <https://go.icann.org/outlook81> is now > available! > > > > In preparation for the ICANN81 Annual General Meeting, the Policy > Development Support team has developed the ICANN81 Policy Outlook Report. > This report provides a high-level overview of the planned work and > activities of the Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees during > ICANN81. > > > > Thank you and Happy Reading! > > > > Kind regards, > > > > At-Large Staff > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community > > Website: atlarge.icann.org > > Facebook: facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> > atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> > > Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge > <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> > > [image: signature_2461901693] > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC-Announce mailing list -- alac-announce(a)icann.org > To unsubscribe send an email to alac-announce-leave(a)icann.org > > At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. >

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Re: Talking points for Board consultation on RDRS
by alberto＠soto.net.ar Oct. 28, 2024

Oct. 28, 2024

And if someone is not certified in that country, the Digital Signature Administration is responsible for reliably identifying them, whether they are a natural person or legal entity. Locally… Best Alberto De: Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)scartezini.org> Enviado el: lunes, 28 de octubre de 2024 15:24 Para: alberto(a)soto.net.ar; 'Alan Greenberg' <greenberg.alan(a)gmail.com>; 'CPWG' <cpwg(a)icann.org> Asunto: Re: [CPWG] Re: Talking points for Board consultation on RDRS Agree Alberto and Alan with such suggestions. We need to have stronger guarantees and Blockchain, dif=gital certification are key and very usual these days. Here government offers free digital signature ( we have national identification too so easy for the government to check it. From: Alberto Soto via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org <mailto:cpwg@icann.org> > Date: Sunday, 27 October 2024 at 17:04 To: 'Alan Greenberg' <greenberg.alan(a)gmail.com <mailto:greenberg.alan@gmail.com> >, 'CPWG' <cpwg(a)icann.org <mailto:cpwg@icann.org> > Subject: [CPWG] Re: Talking points for Board consultation on RDRS I agree Alan. Regarding "Improvements will be needed. Some level of registration and authentication of applicants would be an advantage, but it should not be too cumbersome." Why is the digital signature system not used? There are many governments that offer digital signature services. Interested parties in each country should digitally certify themselves before that local system and at the other end would be ICANN: I don't know if each government would do it for free or for a fee. There are private providers of digital signature services, but I don't know the cost at this time. Regards Alberto De: Alan Greenberg via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org <mailto:cpwg@icann.org> > Enviado el: domingo, 27 de octubre de 2024 00:18 Para: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org <mailto:cpwg@icann.org> > Asunto: [CPWG] Talking points for Board consultation on RDRS * A system such as the RDRS/SSAD is needed, but its use by Registrars (and Registries) should be mandatory. * Enhancements will be needed. Some level of requestor registration and authentication would be an asset, but it must not be overly cumbersome. * Although the RDRS is not perfect, it should not be shut down until an enhanced or replacement system is available. * The system must include legitimate access to Privacy/Proxy beneficial user information * Implementation of national laws and regulations will introduce specific registrar and registry requirements. ICANN policy needs to ensure a level playing field. * The At-Large Community hopes that a mandatory and uniform system will strengthen trust and transparency between end users and businesses * ICANN org should consider reassessing the operational cost of implementing SSAD recommendations as it will provide insight in how those specifications should be altered.

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Talking points for Board consultation on RDRS
by Alan Greenberg Oct. 27, 2024

Oct. 27, 2024

- A system such as the RDRS/SSAD is needed, but its use by Registrars (and Registries) should be mandatory. - Enhancements will be needed. Some level of requestor registration and authentication would be an asset, but it must not be overly cumbersome. - Although the RDRS is not perfect, it should not be shut down until an enhanced or replacement system is available. - The system must include legitimate access to Privacy/Proxy beneficial user information - Implementation of national laws and regulations will introduce specific registrar and registry requirements. ICANN policy needs to ensure a level playing field. - The At-Large Community hopes that a mandatory and uniform system will strengthen trust and transparency between end users and businesses - ICANN org should consider reassessing the operational cost of implementing SSAD recommendations as it will provide insight in how those specifications should be altered.

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[At-Large Community] ICANN81 Board Engagement Session Talking Points
by ICANN At-Large Staff Oct. 25, 2024

Oct. 25, 2024

Dear At-Large Community Members, As we prepare for ICANN81 Prep Week, we kindly request your attention to review the ALAC/At-Large ICANN81 Board Engagement Session Talking Points<https://docs.google.com/document/d/16k6mnbxmXaVVEnT84TYsMpd-KowPuTxn227GjE9…> in preparation for the 28 October Board Engagement Session<https://sched.co/1nJjv>. These points are essential to ensure alignment on the ALAC/At-Large messaging regarding the Registration Data Request Service (RDRS) and New gTLD Program Applications in rounds or continuously accepting applications (first come, first serve). ICANN81 Board Engagement Session Talking Points: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16k6mnbxmXaVVEnT84TYsMpd-KowPuTxn227GjE9… Thank you to those who have contributed to the development of these talking points. Please let us know if you have any questions. At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 30 October 2024 at 19:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Oct. 24, 2024

Oct. 24, 2024

**If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 30 October 2024 at 19:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/223bemkp<https://tinyurl.com/5yzurhkp> The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/ogH_Fg Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 3535 (Due to ICANN81 Prep week, please note, there will NOT be interpretation!) Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 23 October 2024 at 14:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Oct. 23, 2024

Oct. 23, 2024

EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Dear All, EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION The Meetings Technical Services (MTS) and Languages Services (LS) Teams are running a preliminary test of the Zoom interpretation feature on community calls. * To listen to interpretation for this meeting, please join Zoom using Computer Audio. * Choose the language you will listen to from the Language Interpretation menu in the Zoom toolbar. * Before speaking, ensure you have selected the language you will speak from in the interpretation menu. If for any reason, the audio you are listening to is silent, please select “unmute original audio”. FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL Les équipes des services techniques des reunions (MTS) et des services linquistiques (LS) effectuent un test préliminaire de la function di’interpretation Zoom sur les appels communautaires. * Pour écouter l’interprétation de cette reunion, veuillez rejoindre Zoom en utilisant l’audio ordinateur/tablette/telephone portable. Choisissez la langue que vous écouterez dans le menu “Interprétation” linquistique de la barre d’outils Zoom. * Avant de parler, assurez-vous d'avoir sélectionné la langue dans laquelle vous parlerez dans le menu d'interprétation. Si, pour une raison quelconque, l'audio que vous écoutez est silencieux, veuillez sélectionner « réactiver l'audio original ». ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Los equipos de Servicios Técnicos de Reuniones (MTS) y Servicios de Idiomas (LS) estám realizando una prueba preliminar de la función de interpretatción de Zoom en llamadas comunitarias. * Para escuchar la interpretación para esta reunión, únase a Zoom mediante Computer Audio * Elija el idioma que escucharà en el menu Interpretación de idiomas en la barra de herramientas de Zoom * Antes de hablar, asegúrese de haber seleccionado el idioma que hablará en el menú de interpretación. Si por algún motivo el audio que está escuchando está en silencio, seleccione "activar audio original". **If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call has been scheduled for Wednesday, 23 October 2024 at 14:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/y5x7t9yp The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/oYDvFg Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 16 October 2024 at 14:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Oct. 22, 2024

Oct. 22, 2024

EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Dear All, EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION The Meetings Technical Services (MTS) and Languages Services (LS) Teams are running a preliminary test of the Zoom interpretation feature on community calls. * To listen to interpretation for this meeting, please join Zoom using Computer Audio. * Choose the language you will listen to from the Language Interpretation menu in the Zoom toolbar. * Before speaking, ensure you have selected the language you will speak from in the interpretation menu. If for any reason, the audio you are listening to is silent, please select “unmute original audio”. FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL Les équipes des services techniques des reunions (MTS) et des services linquistiques (LS) effectuent un test préliminaire de la function di’interpretation Zoom sur les appels communautaires. * Pour écouter l’interprétation de cette reunion, veuillez rejoindre Zoom en utilisant l’audio ordinateur/tablette/telephone portable. Choisissez la langue que vous écouterez dans le menu “Interprétation” linquistique de la barre d’outils Zoom. * Avant de parler, assurez-vous d'avoir sélectionné la langue dans laquelle vous parlerez dans le menu d'interprétation. Si, pour une raison quelconque, l'audio que vous écoutez est silencieux, veuillez sélectionner « réactiver l'audio original ». ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Los equipos de Servicios Técnicos de Reuniones (MTS) y Servicios de Idiomas (LS) estám realizando una prueba preliminar de la función de interpretatción de Zoom en llamadas comunitarias. * Para escuchar la interpretación para esta reunión, únase a Zoom mediante Computer Audio * Elija el idioma que escucharà en el menu Interpretación de idiomas en la barra de herramientas de Zoom * Antes de hablar, asegúrese de haber seleccionado el idioma que hablará en el menú de interpretación. Si por algún motivo el audio que está escuchando está en silencio, seleccione "activar audio original". **If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call has been scheduled for Wednesday, 16 October 2024 at 14:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/4wcasz4d The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/eIDMFg Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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**REMINDER!!** At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) - Board Engagement Prep Week Session
by ICANN Policy Calendar Oct. 22, 2024

Oct. 22, 2024

EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Dear All, EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION The Meetings Technical Services (MTS) and Languages Services (LS) Teams are running a preliminary test of the Zoom interpretation feature on community calls. * To listen to interpretation for this meeting, please join Zoom using Computer Audio. * Choose the language you will listen to from the Language Interpretation menu in the Zoom toolbar. * Before speaking, ensure you have selected the language you will speak from in the interpretation menu. If for any reason, the audio you are listening to is silent, please select “unmute original audio”. FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL Les équipes des services techniques des reunions (MTS) et des services linquistiques (LS) effectuent un test préliminaire de la function di’interpretation Zoom sur les appels communautaires. * Pour écouter l’interprétation de cette reunion, veuillez rejoindre Zoom en utilisant l’audio ordinateur/tablette/telephone portable. Choisissez la langue que vous écouterez dans le menu “Interprétation” linquistique de la barre d’outils Zoom. * Avant de parler, assurez-vous d'avoir sélectionné la langue dans laquelle vous parlerez dans le menu d'interprétation. Si, pour une raison quelconque, l'audio que vous écoutez est silencieux, veuillez sélectionner « réactiver l'audio original ». ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Los equipos de Servicios Técnicos de Reuniones (MTS) y Servicios de Idiomas (LS) estám realizando una prueba preliminar de la función de interpretatción de Zoom en llamadas comunitarias. * Para escuchar la interpretación para esta reunión, únase a Zoom mediante Computer Audio * Elija el idioma que escucharà en el menu Interpretación de idiomas en la barra de herramientas de Zoom * Antes de hablar, asegúrese de haber seleccionado el idioma que hablará en el menú de interpretación. Si por algún motivo el audio que está escuchando está en silencio, seleccione "activar audio original". **If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, There will be an At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call - Board Engagement Prep Week Session scheduled for Tuesday, 22 October 2024 at 14:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/pxhfrrtj The agenda and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/HQDoFg Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Re: End User Perspectives on Data Accuracy
by Vanda Scartezini Oct. 21, 2024

Oct. 21, 2024

From: Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)scartezini.org> Date: Sunday, 20 October 2024 at 18:42 To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CPWG] Re: End User Perspectives on Data Accuracy After 23 years of doing my best to spread the word about ICANN and its agenda, I agree that we only reach our microscopic world besides the very one of ICANN that is already touched by all other constituencies. For instance, we have added our Software Association, a large enough organization to BC under GNSO to add value and get some small support from them for some initiatives. Even so, as Maureen states we see the majority of our effort not adding as much value as we expected to our local community, even though sometimes we do add a lot of value to ICANN. It's nice to see people engaging to find some solution… Vanda From: Maureen Hilyard via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org> Date: Saturday, 19 October 2024 at 12:59 To: David Mackey <mackey361(a)gmail.com> Cc: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [CPWG] Re: End User Perspectives on Data Accuracy Thank you everyone for this very interesting discussion which is particularly relevant to our community and the value of our ALSes to carry out the outreach role that ICANN has given us (on top of our important contribution to their policy development processes). As David points out, while it is the traditional role for our ALS volunteers to educate and advocate for important end-user perspectives on the wide range of issues that ICANN throws our way, we have only been able to do so within whatever local resources we might have, which realistically limits our range of influence to the "microscopic" extent that Bill so rightly describes The "strategic alliances" of ICANN's strategic plan are the purview of the global stakeholder group.who rarely share their role or resources with any of our local groups, despite still relying on them in many instances to initiate influential contacts. Unless a RALO was able to get an ABR to support the development of education and advocacy resources for local distribution, requests for official resource material for ALSes to take out to their communities to ensure that the messaging was accurately conveyed, usually took so long to become available, that it was almost irrelevant by the time Org's communication team was ready to help.. Org takes it upon themselves to be the conveyors of important information at a global level and resource themselves accordingly. The value of the unsupported outreach of our multi stakeholder volunteer base continues to spiral downwards. What chance is there for the At-Large community to become more effective if we are not supported to make a more meaningful contribution to ICANN's communication role at a global level, especially when we have the personnel to do so, and probably more effectively? On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 3:09 AM David Mackey via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>> wrote: Just adding a few thoughts to the excellent conversation … I agree with Bill that reaching a significant portion of the end users with current ICANN and ICANN At-Large structures and processes is simply not possible. This does not mean that end user “reach” is not important … nor does it mean that better end user reach is not possible. We just have to be smart on how to maximize end user reach with limited resources. I believe the concept of “building strategic channel partners” is the solution to the important problem of how to have better end user reach using limited resources. For instance, investing in the creation of strategic channel partnerships with educational and library institutions to extend our reach to end users. It doesn’t help in the short run, but the problem of effective end user reach has been with ICANN since day one. It might be time to stop ignoring it. If we’re serious about solving this big problem then looking at the ICANN draft FY26-30 Strategic Plan<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/published-draft-strategic-opera…> might be a good place to start. The draft includes the general wording below which could be connected to our At-Large discussion on end user reach … 1.3 Expand strategic alliances to advocate for the multistakeholder model of Internet governance. I believe the ICANN strategic plan would be strengthened if we added the phrase “... to educate and advocate ...”, since advocating doesn’t work well when other stakeholders don’t understand what ICANN does nor do they understand why it’s important. The idea of building strategic alliances with end user channel partners connects to the current conversation in our At-Large group. I hope my thoughts add to our common understanding of the challenges we face reaching end users and possible paths for improvement in the future. Cheers David On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 2:26 AM Bill Jouris via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>> wrote: Yes, our ALSs reach "many end users" in the sense of large absolute numbers. But as a percentage of the total end user population? No. "Microscopic" might better describe that number. And that is really the point here. Reaching a signifigant portion of the end users is simply not possible. Convincing them to become knowledgeable about arcane details (and, to those outside ICANN, they are extremely arcane) regarding TLDs, even if we could reach them, is simply not going to happen. Therefore, acting based on the differences between gTLDs and ccTLDs is, in Olivier's words, blaming the victim. I would even go so far as to say that, by insisting on treating the two groups differently, ICANN is setting itself up for potentially quite expensive legal action down the road. How we get around the legal restrictions on us is, of course, outside the realm of this discussion. But I think our response would do well to at least mention that treating gTLDs and ccTLDs differently here could have unintended consequences. Bill Jouris Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_And…> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:15 AM, Alberto Soto via CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>> wrote: _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list -- cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to cpwg-leave(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list -- cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to cpwg-leave(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list -- cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to cpwg-leave(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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