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Statement on Registration Data Accuracy
by Alan Greenberg Feb. 18, 2025

Feb. 18, 2025

Jonathan, the statement in response to the GNSO query related to registration data accuracy is not finalized. It is a significant enhancement on the version discussed during yesterday's CPWG meeting, but is *identical *in its overall intent. It is a much stronger and hopefully effective message. It was a collaborative effort of Michael, Cheryl, Justine and me. You can find it at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uvGxFjlKMscGweIb-29UKc46ycgGKADbRA4NCp6… Alan

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Policy Development Process Webinar on Tuesday, 18 February 2025 at 20:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Feb. 18, 2025

Feb. 18, 2025

Dear All, There will be an At-Large Policy Development Process Webinar<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2025-02-18+At-Large+Policy+Deve…> scheduled for Tuesday, 18 February 2025 at 20:00 UTC for 60 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/yc3kp7kj The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/AQAfI Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96848216374?pwd=fQ5dLEuDZYKAVhrBnbZVMtDEBOv9OO.1 Password: D=3hr?mAht Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Re: [ALAC] Re: Statement on Registration Data Accuracy
by mike palage.com Feb. 17, 2025

Feb. 17, 2025

Carlton, A lot to unpack but allow me to try. So lets start off with what we agree on – “the self-regulated registration data (WHOIS) accuracy model has failes (sic).” What we disagree on “the true goal of the registration data (WHOIS) accuracy is contactability, then who the registrant claims to be is secondary. Whether they identify as Wile E. Coyote, Donald D. Duck, or Jack Schitt shouldn’t matter.So long as they can be reached via a valid phone number or email. And if they cannot be reached, there are consequences.” I think “contactability” is framing the discussion entirely wrong. I think the better perspective is “accountability”. There is a clear trend in national law that DNS is critical infrastructure. While “contactability” was a nice talking point for Contracting parties looking to keep their operating costs down by merely verifying the operation of either an email or a phone number, the use of disposable emails makes ICANN’s current definition of “accuracy” largely meaningless when dealing with bad actors. If we frame the discussion of data accuracy from an accountability perspective, I think this aligns with where the Cooperation Group is headed with its guidance on NIS 2.0 Article 28. With accountability in the ecosystem (see also Article 21 of NIS 2.0) we build trust within that ecosystem that directly benefits are participants (end users) within that ecosystem. One of the great talents of Steve DelBianco is to take complex issues and to distill them down into simple to understand concepts that can be easily repeated to make a lasting impact on this listener. I think we “contactability” is a 1990’s concept that no longer scales to the reality of today’s internet where DNS is widely being recognized as critical infrastructure under national law. This reality I think necessitates that we approach RDDS data accuracy and access from an accountability perspective. Channeling my inner Steve and Jonathan, I think the three key bullet points on a single power point slide would be: Contractability, Accountability and Trust. I would just use these three words on the slide to have the listener pay attention to the message I was conveying. I would then use the following talking points to expand on each bullet point. “Contactability” is an outdated concept from the 1990’s “Accountability” is the proper concept to align with DNS being viewed as critical national infrastructure “Trust” in an eco-system is possible when are participants can be held accountable Jonathan, I welcome your thoughts on how close I got to the Steve DelBianco gold standard? Best regards, Michael From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> Date: Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 3:39 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan(a)gmail.com>, CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org>, ALAC <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, michael palage.com <michael(a)palage.com> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Re: Statement on Registration Data Accuracy I see all this and I’m still gobsmacked how easy it is to connive at error. Leading……well, um threshold questions are always intended to enforce adaption of a set narrative. That should be rejected for cause. There is no successful contradiction for the evidence of inaccuracy in contact data and the registration system still lacks meaningful enforcement of the existing data accuracy policy for the DNS. It remains astonishing how easily errors persist—registrars are required to warrant that registrants provide valid contact details, yet verification remains weak. ICANN’s policy demands that registrars validate and periodically review phone and email contacts, even as these are constantly changing and too often left unchecked. Here is what we know for sure. The self-regulated registration data (WHOIS) accuracy model has failed. We have undeniable proof: emails don’t resolve, phone numbers are unreachable, and registrars face no real consequences for non-compliance. What we have here is a policy that exists in theory but not in practice. ICANN, the supposed master regulator, has failed to enforce its own policy. Evidence of oversight is weak to non-existent, and without penalties, registrars have no incentive to comply. Enter NIS2, which flips the script on registration data (WHOIS) accuracy. It raises the bar on verification, intends enforcement of legally binding government oversight and introduces penalties for non-compliance. So now, the hue and cry. Because if the EU enforces this directive as law, it would fragment the domain registration landscape, resulting in divergent verification standards, conflicting enforcement mechanisms, and inevitable clashes with GDPR. Lawyers will thrive with the legal grey areas now at play. But let’s not get lost in the noise. If the true goal of the registration data (WHOIS) accuracy is contactability, then who the registrant claims to be is secondary. Whether they identify as Wile E. Coyote, Donald D. Duck, or Jack Schitt shouldn’t matter. So long as they can be reached via a valid phone number or email. And if they cannot be reached, there are consequences. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 at 14:02, Jonathan Zuck via ALAC <alac(a)icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks for your work on this! As I read it, it seems to be missing the end user impact assessment that we have begun to incorporate in such comments. We make the point that we’re not the experts but instead rely on the expertise of others but could we site some of those experts to lay out a few bullets that tie this exercise back to our mandate and remit? From: Alan Greenberg <greenberg.alan(a)gmail.com<mailto:greenberg.alan@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 12:10 PM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> Cc: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>>; ALAC <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>>; Michael Palage <michael(a)palage.com<mailto:michael@palage.com>> Subject: Statement on Registration Data Accuracy Jonathan, the statement in response to the GNSO query related to registration data accuracy is not finalized. It is a significant enhancement on the version discussed during yesterday's CPWG meeting, but is identical in its overall intent. It is a much stronger and hopefully effective message. It was a collaborative effort of Michael, Cheryl, Justine and me. You can find it at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uvGxFjlKMscGweIb-29UKc46ycgGKADbRA4NCp6… Alan _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list -- alac(a)icann.org<mailto:alac@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to alac-leave(a)icann.org<mailto:alac-leave@icann.org> At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(AL… _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) call on Wednesday, 19 February 2025 at 13:30 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Feb. 15, 2025

Feb. 15, 2025

EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Dear All, EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION * To listen to interpretation for this meeting, please join Zoom using Computer Audio. * Choose the language you will listen to from the Language Interpretation menu in the Zoom toolbar. * Before speaking, ensure you have selected the language you will speak from in the interpretation menu. If for any reason, the audio you are listening to is silent, please select “unmute original audio”. FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL * Pour écouter l’interprétation de cette reunion, veuillez rejoindre Zoom en utilisant l’audio ordinateur/tablette/telephone portable. Choisissez la langue que vous écouterez dans le menu “Interprétation” linquistique de la barre d’outils Zoom. * Avant de parler, assurez-vous d'avoir sélectionné la langue dans laquelle vous parlerez dans le menu d'interprétation. Si, pour une raison quelconque, l'audio que vous écoutez est silencieux, veuillez sélectionner « réactiver l'audio original ». ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES * Para escuchar la interpretación para esta reunión, únase a Zoom mediante Computer Audio * Elija el idioma que escucharà en el menu Interpretación de idiomas en la barra de herramientas de Zoom * Antes de hablar, asegúrese de haber seleccionado el idioma que hablará en el menú de interpretación. Si por algún motivo el audio que está escuchando está en silencio, seleccione "activar audio original". Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call has been scheduled for Wednesday, 19 February 2025 at 13:30 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/mtfvka4c The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/BoA7I Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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At-Large Briefing Session: Informed Consensus: An Approach to At-Large Position Development
by ICANN Policy Calendar Feb. 15, 2025

Feb. 15, 2025

Dear All, There will be an At-Large Briefing Session: Informed Consensus: An Approach to At-Large Position Development scheduled for Tuesday, 18 February 2025 at 20:00 UTC for 60 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/32p9x89s The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/AQAfI Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96848216374?pwd=fQ5dLEuDZYKAVhrBnbZVMtDEBOv9OO.1 Password: D=3hr?mAht Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Homework for the CPWG Topic Dive on gTLD Policy, the ICANN multistakeholder PDP, and the legacy of the picket fence
by Andrew Chen Feb. 14, 2025

Feb. 14, 2025

Dear CPWG Members, In advance of the CPWG call on 19 February 2025 at 13:30 UTC, which will feature a Dive on the topic of gTLD Policy, the ICANN multistakeholder Policy Development Process, and the legacy of the picket fence, please find the key topics and homework for the session: * gTLD Policy, the ICANN multistakeholder PDP, and the legacy of the picket fence * Dive into the gTLD policy making model in a multistakeholder environment<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBNvk5zYrsanD-_Gyy9qRsDTPf6mZy8AJOXbTlA…> * Homework * Review - GNSO PDP Process (201<https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/detailed-…>8) * Review - ICANN’s Picket Fence <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/picket-fe…> * Listen and Review - Pre Transition Consensus Policy - 2009<https://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensus-policy/about> * Review - GNSO PDP Summary Chart<https://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensus-policy/pdp> The agenda for the CPWG call will be available here<https://community.icann.org/x/BoA7I>. Sincerely, Andrew -- Andrew Chen Policy Development Support Sr. Specialist, Policy Development Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) https://www.icann.org/ Skype: atchen122

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At-Large Briefing Session: Informed Consensus: An Approach to At-Large Position Development
by ICANN Policy Calendar Feb. 14, 2025

Feb. 14, 2025

Dear All, There will be an At-Large Briefing Session: Informed Consensus: An Approach to At-Large Position Development scheduled for Tuesday, 18 February 2025 at 20:00 UTC for 60 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/yc3kp7kj The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/AQAfI Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/96848216374?pwd=fQ5dLEuDZYKAVhrBnbZVMtDEBOv9OO.1 Password: D=3hr?mAht Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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FOC-AN on WSIS-20
by avri＠doria.org Feb. 13, 2025

Feb. 13, 2025

Hi, As a member of the FOC-AN (Freedom Online Coalition Advisory Network) I pleased to be able to pass this on to my colleagues on the CPWG & the OGFB-WG. https://freedomonlinecoalition.com/foc-advisory-network-proactive-advice-ws… avri

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At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)
by ICANN Policy Calendar Feb. 13, 2025

Feb. 13, 2025

EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES Dear All, EN - IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR FRENCH AND SPANISH INTERPRETATION * To listen to interpretation for this meeting, please join Zoom using Computer Audio. * Choose the language you will listen to from the Language Interpretation menu in the Zoom toolbar. * Before speaking, ensure you have selected the language you will speak from in the interpretation menu. If for any reason, the audio you are listening to is silent, please select “unmute original audio”. FR - INFORMATIONS IMPORTANTES POUR LES PARTICIPANTS EN FRANCAIS ET ESPAGNOL * Pour écouter l’interprétation de cette reunion, veuillez rejoindre Zoom en utilisant l’audio ordinateur/tablette/telephone portable. Choisissez la langue que vous écouterez dans le menu “Interprétation” linquistique de la barre d’outils Zoom. * Avant de parler, assurez-vous d'avoir sélectionné la langue dans laquelle vous parlerez dans le menu d'interprétation. Si, pour une raison quelconque, l'audio que vous écoutez est silencieux, veuillez sélectionner « réactiver l'audio original ». ES - INFORMACIÓN IMPORTANTE PARA LOS PARTICIPANTES FRANCESES Y ESPAÑOLES * Para escuchar la interpretación para esta reunión, únase a Zoom mediante Computer Audio * Elija el idioma que escucharà en el menu Interpretación de idiomas en la barra de herramientas de Zoom * Antes de hablar, asegúrese de haber seleccionado el idioma que hablará en el menú de interpretación. Si por algún motivo el audio que está escuchando está en silencio, seleccione "activar audio original". Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call has been scheduled for Wednesday, 19 February 2025 at 13:30 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/mtfvka4c The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/BoA7I Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Reminder - [Input Requested] At-Large Survey: Next Round Topics for At-Large Plenary | Requested by 14 February 2025
by Andrew Chen Feb. 12, 2025

Feb. 12, 2025

Dear CPWG and OFB-WG Members, This is friendly reminder to please provide your input on the At-Large Survey: Next Round Topics for At-Large Plenary: SubPro’s promise and the New gTLD Round Survey<https://forms.gle/AqTPcyoUeZTDY2hP8>, which will help inform the selection of topics for discussion in the upcoming ICANN82 At-Large Plenary: SubPro’s promise and the New gTLD Round led by Avri Doria. The survey will remain open through 14 February 2025. Please take a few moments to complete it at your earliest convenience. Survey link: https://forms.gle/AqTPcyoUeZTDY2hP8 Thank you for your time and contributions! Please let us know if you have any question. Sincerely, Andrew -- Andrew Chen Policy Development Support Sr. Specialist, Policy Development Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) https://www.icann.org/ Skype: atchen122 From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> on behalf of Andrew Chen <andrew.chen(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, February 10, 2025 at 3:38 PM To: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org>, OFB-WG <ofb-wg(a)icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: [Input Requested] At-Large Survey: Next Round Topics for At-Large Plenary | Requested by 14 February 2025 Dear CPWG and OFB-WG Members, You are invited to provide your input on the At-Large Survey: Next Round Topics for At-Large Plenary: SubPro’s promise and the New gTLD Round Survey<https://forms.gle/AqTPcyoUeZTDY2hP8>, which will help inform the selection of topics for discussion in the upcoming ICANN82 At-Large Plenary: SubPro’s promise and the New gTLD Round led by Avri Doria. Your participation is essential in ensuring that the topics reflect the At-Large Communities priorities and interests as they relate to the Next Round. In the survey, you will be asked to select three topics and indicate whether you believe these topics have been sufficiently addressed. The survey will remain open through 14 February 2025. Please take a few moments to complete it at your earliest convenience. Survey link: https://forms.gle/AqTPcyoUeZTDY2hP8 Thank you for your time and contributions! Please let us know if you have any question. Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge

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