June 2018 - Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl

No PP IRT meeting next week
by Amy Bivins 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Dear Colleagues, We will not be having a PP IRT meeting next week. Next week, I expect to be able to share an update with you on the Legal review of all of the proposed accreditation program requirements and materials (including a review related to GDPR). If you have questions, please don't hesitate to contact me, and safe travels to those who traveled to ICANN62. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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No PP IRT Meeting Next Two Weeks, Data Escrow Materials Attached
by Amy Bivins 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

Dear Colleagues, We will not have a meeting on Tuesday, as the attached will be easier to review on your own. We won't have a meeting the following week, either, as that is ICANN62. We're planning to meet again on 3 July. I have attached several documents for your review: 1. The latest version of the 4 RRI specifications required for data escrow and quarterly reporting. 2. The PP data escrow specification, updated to support the standalone data escrow model (the previous draft proposed to allow an affiliated registrar to make its data escrow deposits through the affiliated PP provider, rather than the other way around). Please note that we are still working on documentation that will be required to support the allowance for registrar-affiliated PPs to meet their data escrow requirements as part of the registrar's data escrow deposit procedures. This will likely involve an addendum either to the registrar data escrow agreement or the pp data escrow agreement-I will share a concrete proposal on that when we have it. For PPs that follow the registrar-supported data escrow model, there are three requirements that will apply (these will be included in the data escrow agreement): * Privacy and Proxy Service customer information escrowed through Affiliate Registrar(s) data escrow deposits must include for each domain name: the PPSP identifier assigned by ICANN to the Provider, the domain name ROID, notwithstanding the requirements and format defined by the Registrar Data Escrow Specifications. The Affiliate Registrar(s) will deliver to ICANN (using the API described in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-icann-registrar-interfaces) a statement that includes a copy of the report generated upon creation of each Registrar data escrow Deposit that states that the Deposit has been inspected by the Registrar to be complete and accurate. The preparation and submission of this statement must be performed by the Affiliate Registrar(s) or its designee, provided that such designee may not be the Escrow Agent or any of Escrow Agent's Affiliates. * The Provider will deliver each day to ICANN (using the API described in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-icann-ppsp-interfaces) a statement from Provider that states that the Provider has verified that the Privacy and Proxy Services customer information submitted in Affiliate Registrar(s) data escrow deposits is complete, accurate and includes the contact information corresponding to each and all of the Provider's customers. The preparation and submission of this statement must be performed by the Provider or its designee, provided that such designee may not be the Escrow Agent or any of Escrow Agent's Affiliates. Provider will include the Deposit's <id> in its statement. The preparation and submission of this statement must be performed by the Provider or its designee, provided that such designee may not be the Escrow Agent or any of Escrow Agent's Affiliates. Provider will generate and include a Deposit's <id> in its statement. * The Provider will include the contact information corresponding to each and all of the Provider's customers through Affiliate Registrar(s) data escrow deposits, otherwise the Provider will be obligated to comply with the Data Escrow obligations in the Privacy and Proxy Service Provider Data Escrow Specifications. If you have questions or comments, please send them to the list. Thanks, and have a great weekend! Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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PP fees proposal document attached
by Amy Bivins 14 Jun '18

14 Jun '18

Dear Colleagues, Attached, you will find additional information related to the proposed fees for the privacy and proxy service provider accreditation program. Please review and send any comments/questions to the list. Thank you for your patience. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] [Ext] Re: PP fees proposal document attached
by Jennifer Gore 13 Jun '18

13 Jun '18

Thanks Chris for your feedback. As a reminder the nature of ICANN staff role during the IRT phase greatly differs from the Working Group phase. ICANN has taken the concerns of IRT members into consideration. If you are seeking additional materials, I kindly as you to be very specific in the information you are seeking. Best Regards, Jennifer Gore From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Chris Pelling <chris(a)netearth.net> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 3:07 PM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org>, gtheo <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] [Ext] Re: PP fees proposal document attached Hi Amy, Its astounding that icann org have literally taken no notice of the concerns the IRT have about the representation of the fee structure. Is it no wonder half of us no longer bother to interact with giving feedback as icann simply do as they please anyway? If took months for icann to "back up" their fee structure and what was provided was simply third grade material. Sent by Chris on the move. -------- Original message -------- From: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Date: 13/06/2018 19:12 (GMT+01:00) To: gtheo <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl>, gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] [Ext] Re: PP fees proposal document attached Dear Colleagues, Thank you for taking the time to review and provide feedback on the privacy and proxy service provider accreditation fees-related documentation, both on the list and during the meetings we have recently had on this topic. ICANN org has carefully considered the feedback of all IRT members in developing the proposed fee structure. Despite recommendations from some IRT members to reduce the proposed fees, ICANN org continues to believe that the fees proposed are reasonable and appropriate, for the reasons identified in the fees proposal documentation (attached). As noted in the fees proposal, ICANN org analyzed three relevant factors in reaching the fee structure that was proposed: relevant benchmarks; fees transparency, simplicity, stability and predictability; and anticipated program management costs. ICANN org understands that some IRT members disagree with this assessment, but did not find any of the arguments or suggestions raised by IRT members persuasive. If persuasive reasons are raised for revisiting the proposed fee structure during the public comment period, ICANN org commits to revisit the proposed fees. Please know that ICANN org sincerely appreciates the time and effort you committed to this exercise and the broader work of the IRT. Best, Amy -----Original Message----- From: gtheo [mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:04 AM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Cc: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] PP fees proposal document attached Thanks Amy, Am I reading this correctly? The program startup and application processing is going to cost; 1,117,390??? That is a huge amount of money for a program startup if only a few providers signup for this and the majority decides that the temporary spec or it's successor is enough privacy for registrants. But maybe I am reading it incorrectly. When I look at the Activity Relevant Department(s) Accredited Provider Account Management Services, it seems many of these activities already exist for Registrars. Can those activities not be handled by the same folks? I mean does it matter if a Registrar changes its name or a Privacy Provider? It's the same type of processing is it not? Also, a question about the PP Data Retention Waiver activity. What is this activity? Thanks, Theo Amy Bivins schreef op 2018-05-22 10:20 PM: > Dear Colleagues, > > Attached, you will find additional information related to the proposed > fees for the privacy and proxy service provider accreditation program. > Please review and send any comments/questions to the list. > > Thank you for your patience. > > Best, > > Amy > > AMY E. BIVINS > > Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager > > Registrar Services and Industry Relations > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 > > Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 > > Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org > > www.icann.org [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=Dw > ICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=uerz4ckt1v4Qhbv-T > plkjKTey9bgtdWrvLyZDu0mXuk&m=BJtpG8Olp_3NAmSVAsUTW_HmMsKblc3_3k59uUScn > vs&s=YBcBo-2U5vstASdpDcav-4W8w712XbFjerD180TrPRo&e= > _______________________________________________ > Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list > Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl _______________________________________________ Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] [Ext] Re: PP fees proposal document attached
by Chris Pelling 13 Jun '18

13 Jun '18

Hi Amy, Its astounding that icann org have literally taken no notice of the concerns the IRT have about the representation of the fee structure. Is it no wonder half of us no longer bother to interact with giving feedback as icann simply do as they please anyway? If took months for icann to "back up" their fee structure and what was provided was simply third grade material. Sent by Chris on the move. -------- Original message --------From: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Date: 13/06/2018 19:12 (GMT+01:00) To: gtheo <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl>, gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] [Ext] Re: PP fees proposal document attached Dear Colleagues, Thank you for taking the time to review and provide feedback on the privacy and proxy service provider accreditation fees-related documentation, both on the list and during the meetings we have recently had on this topic. ICANN org has carefully considered the feedback of all IRT members in developing the proposed fee structure. Despite recommendations from some IRT members to reduce the proposed fees, ICANN org continues to believe that the fees proposed are reasonable and appropriate, for the reasons identified in the fees proposal documentation (attached). As noted in the fees proposal, ICANN org analyzed three relevant factors in reaching the fee structure that was proposed: relevant benchmarks; fees transparency, simplicity, stability and predictability; and anticipated program management costs. ICANN org understands that some IRT members disagree with this assessment, but did not find any of the arguments or suggestions raised by IRT members persuasive. If persuasive reasons are raised for revisiting the proposed fee structure during the public comment period, ICANN org commits to revisit the proposed fees. Please know that ICANN org sincerely appreciates the time and effort you committed to this exercise and the broader work of the IRT. Best, Amy -----Original Message----- From: gtheo [mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:04 AM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Cc: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] PP fees proposal document attached Thanks Amy, Am I reading this correctly? The program startup and application processing is going to cost; 1,117,390??? That is a huge amount of money for a program startup if only a few providers signup for this and the majority decides that the temporary spec or it's successor is enough privacy for registrants. But maybe I am reading it incorrectly. When I look at the Activity Relevant Department(s) Accredited Provider Account Management Services, it seems many of these activities already exist for Registrars. Can those activities not be handled by the same folks? I mean does it matter if a Registrar changes its name or a Privacy Provider? It's the same type of processing is it not? Also, a question about the PP Data Retention Waiver activity. What is this activity? Thanks, Theo Amy Bivins schreef op 2018-05-22 10:20 PM: > Dear Colleagues, > > Attached, you will find additional information related to the proposed > fees for the privacy and proxy service provider accreditation program. > Please review and send any comments/questions to the list. > > Thank you for your patience. > > Best, > > Amy > > AMY E. BIVINS > > Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager > > Registrar Services and Industry Relations > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 > > Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 > > Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org > > www.icann.org [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=Dw > ICAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=uerz4ckt1v4Qhbv-T > plkjKTey9bgtdWrvLyZDu0mXuk&m=BJtpG8Olp_3NAmSVAsUTW_HmMsKblc3_3k59uUScn > vs&s=YBcBo-2U5vstASdpDcav-4W8w712XbFjerD180TrPRo&e= > _______________________________________________ > Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list > Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl _______________________________________________ Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] No PP IRT Meeting on Tuesday
by Sara Bockey 11 Jun '18

11 Jun '18

Thanks Amy. Can we get a copy of the latest PPAA for review? The last version I have is from February and I know several changes were made since that time. Thanks! Sara sara bockey sr. policy manager | GoDaddy™ sbockey(a)godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com> 480-366-3616 skype: sbockey This email message and any attachments hereto is intended for use only by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message and its attachments. From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, June 8, 2018 at 9:36 AM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] No PP IRT Meeting on Tuesday Dear Colleagues, We will not have a PP IRT meeting on Tuesday, 12 June. I expect to be able to send you an updated data escrow specification, possibly with a couple of questions, toward the end of next week. Also, please note that ICANN org has published a response to the 4 May request to pause the work of this IRT. It is available on the ICANN correspondence page, https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/atallah-to-bunton-06ju… Thanks, and have a great weekend. Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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No PP IRT Meeting on Tuesday
by Amy Bivins 08 Jun '18

08 Jun '18

Dear Colleagues, We will not have a PP IRT meeting on Tuesday, 12 June. I expect to be able to send you an updated data escrow specification, possibly with a couple of questions, toward the end of next week. Also, please note that ICANN org has published a response to the 4 May request to pause the work of this IRT. It is available on the ICANN correspondence page, https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/atallah-to-bunton-06ju… Thanks, and have a great weekend. Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Agenda for Tuesday's PP IRT meeting
by Amy Bivins 01 Jun '18

01 Jun '18

Dear Colleagues, We will have our regularly-scheduled Privacy/Proxy IRT meeting on Tuesday, but we aren't expecting it to be a long one. I will provide an update on the project status and timeline and will also provide an opportunity for any additional feedback you may have on the fees document that was recently distributed. As mentioned last week, ICANN is reviewing all of the proposed accreditation program materials, including against the Temporary Specification, and will bring any items that arise back to the IRT for discussion. If you have any practical examples you would like to share with the group of how PP services are operating now, in light of the approval of the Temporary Specification, please feel free to share them with the list (before our meeting or anytime) or come prepared to share on Tuesday. Thanks, and have a great weekend. Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Agenda for Tuesday's PP IRT meeting
by Sara Bockey 01 Jun '18

01 Jun '18

I will not be able to attend Tuesday’s call. Please note my apologies. Thanks, Sara sara bockey sr. policy manager | GoDaddy™ sbockey(a)godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com> 480-366-3616 skype: sbockey This email message and any attachments hereto is intended for use only by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message and its attachments. From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, June 1, 2018 at 12:44 PM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Agenda for Tuesday's PP IRT meeting Dear Colleagues, We will have our regularly-scheduled Privacy/Proxy IRT meeting on Tuesday, but we aren’t expecting it to be a long one. I will provide an update on the project status and timeline and will also provide an opportunity for any additional feedback you may have on the fees document that was recently distributed. As mentioned last week, ICANN is reviewing all of the proposed accreditation program materials, including against the Temporary Specification, and will bring any items that arise back to the IRT for discussion. If you have any practical examples you would like to share with the group of how PP services are operating now, in light of the approval of the Temporary Specification, please feel free to share them with the list (before our meeting or anytime) or come prepared to share on Tuesday. Thanks, and have a great weekend. Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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