February 2022 - Gnso-epdp-idn-team

Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6
by Ariel Liang 02 Mar '22

02 Mar '22

Dear All, Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2… (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg). Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components: * Brief answer to the charter question * Recommendations and implementation guidance * Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance We would like to highlight the following elements: * Recommendation 1.5 under A5 (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. * Recommendation 1.6 under A6 (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any. Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 January. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel

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REMINDER: Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6
by Ariel Liang 02 Mar '22

02 Mar '22

Dear All, This is a friendly reminder to review the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6, and provide your comment/suggestion (if any) by AOB today (22 Feb 2022). Thanks to Michael for the input. Best, Ariel From: "Donna(a)registry.godaddy" <Donna(a)registry.godaddy> Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:28 PM To: Ariel Liang <ariel.liang(a)icann.org>, "gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] RE: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6 Hi All Just to follow on from Ariel’s email: consideration and input on the language drafted for A5 and A6 by the represented groups of this EPDP Team is really important to our work. Rather than rely on the assumption that no comment means agreement, I’d prefer to have each represented group actively confirm their agreement if that is indeed the case and if not, provide comments/input so that we can discuss areas of contention and find agreeable language for all to the extent possible. Thanks Donna From: Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team-bounces(a)icann.org> On Behalf Of Ariel Liang Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:22 AM To: gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org Subject: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Draft Outcome: Charter Questions A5 & A6 Caution: This email is from an external sender. Please do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Forward suspicious emails to isitbad@. Dear All, Please find the draft outcome language for charter questions A5 and A6 on this google doc, pp.6-11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bt0LT45UaLynFNverh1nJhyvq6q6NxgSFAOnOp2… [nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…> (it is also posted on the wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/XwyHCg [nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?…>). Following the agreed format, the draft outcome language includes the following components: * Brief answer to the charter question * Recommendations and implementation guidance * Rationale for recommendations and implementation guidance We would like to highlight the following elements: * Recommendation 1.5 under A5 (p.6): this proposed recommendation may be revisited after the EPDP Team tackles other charter questions; additional details may need to be fleshed out. * Recommendation 1.6 under A6 (p.9): please pay particular attention to the proposed definition of “grandfathering” and provide input, if any. Please provide any input/suggestion for the draft outcome language on the mailing list by Tuesday, 22 January. Any substantive comments will be discussed during the EPDP Team meeting in about two weeks. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel

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Notes and action items - IDNs EPDP Meeting #25 - 25 February 2022
by Steve Chan 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, Please find below the notes from today’s meeting on Friday, 27 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC. Best, Ariel, Emily, Steve Action Items: Action Item: leadership and staff to suggest a stripped back version of the question(s) to ask the GP. Will provide to the EPDP to consider. Notes – IDNs EPDP Call – 27 February 2022 Roll Call & SOI Updates * None Welcome & Chair Updates * Extended deadline for A5 and A6 until Wednesday, 2 March * Request to open up draft recommendations Google docs to allow comments. Committed to not redline to document. Continue discussion on Charter Questions A7, A9, D1b, and B4 A7 * Recap on A7 deliberations to date. For part 1, suggestion that 3rd bullet is not needed for drafting recommendation. * For part 2, if the GP is asked to do work, they will need instructions to perform the work. * Staff suggestion for the GP to identify an exclusion list rather than an inclusive task, given the thousands of Han characters. * And further, perhaps the CJK GPs can develop a “hard no” list of disqualified Han characters (e.g., single or two stroke characters). And have that subject to EPDP Team’s review. * Clear instructions needed for GPs and IP for developing additional criteria to be used by DNS stability, string sim, and other areas TBD. Suggested criteria on slide. * Some concern that the criteria is being overcomplicated. Because of the punycode, it does not seem to be a technical and security reason. It just needs to be an ideograph/ideogram and otherwise meet normal requirements of program. * The reason for considering this criteria is because the group agreed that it did not have the expertise to determine allowable characters, or a mechanism to do so. * SAC052 recommends a very conservative approach for single character IDNs. It notes that a shorter string has a higher potential for confusability. * Suggestion that confusability should not matter against undelegated strings. * Suggestion that allowable single HAN characters should have a meaning, represent a word. * Agreement that technically, not a problem. However, notes the confusability issue is more pronounced the shorter the string. If a panel is to perform the evaluation in New gTLD Program, it could not be a GP, as it is not a standing panel. Suggestion that meaning might not be important, since that is not required for ASCII strings. * The idea is to give the GPs instructions to help provide input to the EPDP to consider. * Some support for GPs to consider the confusability question, not to only rely on the panel after submission. * Suggestion that the SSAC Advice will be taken into account via the evaluation processes. * The idea of doing up front analysis helps potential applicants to submit an acceptable character. To that end, SubPro welcomed the clarity of a prescriptive list to make the process more predictable via the Rationale. * Suggestion again that only bullets 1-3 are relevant, and no need to inquire with the GPs. * Question about whether there is an algorithmic way to add predictability. SubPro recommended against that (e.g., SWORD). Clarification that SubPro recommended against SWORD specifically. * GPs have been quite helpful in the past and timing will of course depend upon the task. What the EPDP could do is actually go to the GP with a very high level question to get an estimate of time and willingness to undertake work. * Suggestion to strip the question back to just hard no or disqualified characters. Some support to inquire with the GP, in part because they are linguists and have expertise that is not necessarily present in the EPDP. Action Item: leadership and staff to suggest a stripped back version of the question(s) to ask the GP. Will provide to the EPDP to consider. A9 * Noted that Delegated and Rejected overlap with Application statuses in the 2012 round. * Allocated seems to serve as a precursor to “In Contracting” * No equivalent to Blocked or Withhold-same-entity * Suggestion to accept the Staff Paper proposed label states for now. Rationale is that the label states are not dependent upon the application status and the EPDP team is not asked to expand application statuses. * Label states are used to track the status of variant labels. * That set of variant labels and their respective states will be leveraged in different processes and considered by this group later (e.g., string sim, objections, etc.) * Some support that they can live with it as a preliminary recommendation * Suggestion to ensure that definitions are not inconsistent with what the ODP is working on. And that the recommendation not be prescriptive about the specific words, but recommend that they be consistent with terminology in the new gTLD Program (and ccTLDs to the extent possible). D1b * N/A B4 * N/A AOB * None Steven Chan  Senior Director, Policy Development Support & GNSO Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  Email: steve.chan(a)icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> Skype: steve.chan55 Mobile: +1.310.339.4410 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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Post Call | IDNs EPDP Team call | Friday, 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Devan Reed 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, All recordings for the IDNs EPDP Team call held on Friday, 25 February 2022 can be found on the agenda wiki<https://community.icann.org/x/sIH3Cg> page (attendance included) and the GNSO Master Calendar. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calen…> These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-idn-team/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/uAPpCQ>. Thank you! Kind Regards, Devan

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Friday, 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Julie Bisland 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Friday, 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/sIH3Cg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/3eazuhrf [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/3eazuhrf__;!!PtGJab4!r04us97…> ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 03 March 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Devan Reed 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 03 March 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/toH3Cg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/2p9ak8f ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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12 MINTUES**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Friday, 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Devan Reed 25 Feb '22

25 Feb '22

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Friday, 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/sIH3Cg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/3eazuhrf [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/3eazuhrf__;!!PtGJab4!r04us97…> ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #25 - Friday 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes
by Emily Barabas 23 Feb '22

23 Feb '22

Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for our meeting on Friday 25 February 2022 at 13:30 UTC. Kind regards, Ariel, Steve, and Emily IDN EPDP Meeting #25 Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call & SOI Updates (2 minutes) 2. Welcome & Chair Updates (5 minutes) 3. Continue discussion on Charter Questions A7, A9, D1b, and B4 (80 minutes) * Working documents<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=176622687> 4. AOB (3 minutes)

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Request for extension of deadline for comments on CQ A5/A6
by Satish Babu 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Dear Donna The ALAC team for EPDP on IDNs has been working on our submission on Charter Questions A5 and A6. While most of our response is ready, there are still a few points that need resolution. We would therefore request for an extension of the submission deadline until end-of-day next Wednesday (02 Mar 2022), as this would give us an opportunity to discuss among ourselves, and, if required, also enable us to consult the ALAC Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG), which meets every Wednesday. With kind regards satish

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Please read! | ICANN73 GNSO Policy Briefing & ICANN73 Policy Outlook Report Available for Download
by Julie Bisland 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

Dear All, Please find the GNSO Policy Briefing and Policy Outlook Report links below for ICANN73. GNSO Policy Briefing ICANN73 Edition: http://go.icann.org/gnsobriefing [go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/go.icann.org/gnsobriefing__;!!PtGJab4!uV0…> ICANN73 Policy Outlook Report: https://go.icann.org/outlook73 [go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/go.icann.org/outlook73__;!!PtGJab4!uV0zw…> Thank you. With kind regards, Julie -- Julie Bisland Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: 79613b691cb8a6c1 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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