July 2024 - Gnso-epdp-idn-team

Proposed Language (Revised) for PR6
by Saewon Lee Aug. 1, 2024

Aug. 1, 2024

Dear Team, Please find below the revised language for PR6 (still to combine PR6 and IG7), related to Charter question C5 on IDN table harmonization, from leadership/staff for discussion on Thursday, 1st August 2024, at 12:00 UTC: “Preliminary Recommendation 6: The baseline criteria for implementing IDNs at the second-level must be security and stability of the DNS. ICANN org and gTLD registry operators shall be responsible for reaching mutual agreement on a minimum set of IDN variant deployment requirements, including variant sets, at the second-level. In developing the minimum set of IDN variant deployment requirements, ICANN org and the gTLD registry operators shall consult with other relevant stakeholders, including ICANN-accredited registrars and script communities.” Once again, this will be discussed at the NEXT WEEK’S MEETING on 1st August NOT this week’s meeting on 25th July. Thank you for your kind consideration. Best regards, Steve, Dan, and Saewon. From: Saewon Lee via Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org> Reply-To: Saewon Lee <saewon.lee(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 12:19 PM To: Daniel Gluck <daniel.gluck(a)icann.org>, "gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Re: Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #110 - WEDNESDAY 17 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC + Notes from Meeting #109 Dear Team, Please find below the proposed language for PR6 (which is to combine PR6 and IG7), related to Charter question C5 on IDN table harmonization, from leadership for discussion on Wednesday, 17 July at 12:00 UTC: “Preliminary Recommendation 6: The baseline criteria for implementing IDNs at the second-level must be security and stability of the DNS. ICANN org and gTLD registry operators, in consultation with other relevant stakeholders including ICANN-accredited registrars, are responsible for developing and reaching full consensus agreement on a minimum set of IDN variant deployment requirements, including variant sets, at the second-level that will satisfy the baseline criteria of security and stability of the DNS.” Also, please refer to the amended agenda below: 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) 3. Discuss ICANN org Request: Stabilize Outputs PR6 and IG7 (30 mins) 4. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments (80 mins) * Start Discussions from PR17 * Discussions on “Other” (Glossary, General, Charter Questions without the Team’s Responses) 5. AOB (3 min) Thank you for your kind consideration. Best regards, Steve, Dan, and Saewon. From: Daniel Gluck via Gnso-epdp-idn-team <gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org> Reply-To: Daniel Gluck <daniel.gluck(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 6:44 AM To: "gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org" <gnso-epdp-idn-team(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-epdp-idn-team] Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #110 - WEDNESDAY 17 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC + Notes from Meeting #109 Hi All! Please find below our proposed agenda for WEDNESDAY, 17 July’s team call at 12:00 UTC. IDNs EPDP Meeting #110<https://community.icann.org/x/FIBFF> Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) 3. Discuss ICANN org request (30 min) 4. Stabilize Outputs; PR6 and IG7 (30 mins) 5. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments (50 mins) * Start Discussions from PR17 * Discussions on “Other” (Glossary, General, Charter Questions without the Team’s Responses) 6. AOB (3 min) IDNs EPDP Meeting #109<https://community.icann.org/x/lYBFF> Action Items * The EPDP Team will review the proposed updates to PR14 * The NCSG will discuss and report back with rationale for their PR14 / IG15 comment Notes 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) 3. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments (50 min) 4. Start Discussions from PR14, IG15 * For PR14, there was discussion regarding the RySG comment that was Supported with a wording change * Consistent with the ICANN org input on the need for a consistent operational process the RySG notes there is no requirement for the service to be public. There are some things that differ from ICANN org. * The ALAC generally supports this but would request a public service to be made available * RySG pushed back on there being a public service component, among other comments made for PR14. * ACTION ITEM: The EPDP Team will review the proposed updates to PR14. * Regarding the NCSG Comment for PR14, there was not push back to the proposed deletion of IG 15, but there was a request to get more information to back up their comment with rationale. * ACTION ITEM: The NCSG will discuss and report back with rationale for their PR14 / IG15 comment 5. AOB (3 min) Thanks! Saewon, Steve, Ariel, and Dan

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REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 01 August 2024 at 12:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew July 31, 2024

July 31, 2024

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 01 August 2024 at 12:00 UTC for 2 hours. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/GIBFF * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/rryrk332 ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #112 - Thursday 1 August 2024 at 12:00 UTC + Notes from Meeting #111
by Daniel Gluck July 30, 2024

July 30, 2024

Hi All! Please find below our proposed agenda for Thursday 1 August’s team call at 12:00 UTC. IDNs EPDP Meeting #112<https://community.icann.org/x/GIBFF> Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) 3. Discuss Request from ICANN org; PR6 and IG7 (30 mins) 4. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments; (80mins) * Confirming Terminology and Glossary Comment * Revisit Comments for Outputs: PR1~PR9 1. AOB (3 min) IDNs EPDP Meeting #111<https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF> ACTION ITEMS * The Team should review IG7 language and provide thoughts on the email list before the next meeting. * ICANN org will check what can be provided on if a domain set is assigned to a specific registrant. Not who that registrant is, but if a selected domain is in a set (IG 15) * On the ALAC comment regarding C6, Leadership and Staff will discuss on how to incorporate the comment into the recommendations or rationale. NOTES 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) * Updates were provided by the chair regarding the use of the term “grandfathered” - ETA on a reply from ICANN org is 15 August- and the request from ICANN org to stabilize PR6. * There was also revised language on IG7 provided to the team by staff. * ACTION ITEM: The Team should review IG7 language and provide thoughts on the email list before the next meeting. * Michael Karakash, ICANN org, announced that the IRT subtract on IDNs will start on 8 August at 18:00 UTC. In order to be a part of this, participants have to sign up for the entire next-round IRT. To sign up please email nextround_policyimplementation(a)icann.org<mailto:nextround_policyimplementation@icann.org> 1. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments: (110mins) * Revisit comments for PR14-IG15 * Starting with PR14, the ICANN org comment seeking clarity from the RySG was discussed. This included the public nature of the data requested. The team discussed that having a minimum level of publicly available information should be in place, but the whole data set does not need to be public. * There was also a second discussion about the RySG comment about the requirement for the public service. Language was revised to ensure that registries are not going to be mandated to perform a task. It was discussed that ICANN org may be able to fulfill the task instead of the registries. * On IG15, discussion continued on the status of the item. * ACTION ITEM: ICANN org will check what can be provided on if a domain set is assigned to a specific registrant. Not who that registrant is, but if a selected domain is in a set. * Continue Discussions from “Other” (General, Charter Questions without the Team’s Responses) * On “ROID”, the ALAC comment has been accepted. * There was agreement on the need for a uniform response and for the solution to be interoperable between * Also relating to the ALAC comment, the potential linkage between C3, C3a and PR6 was discussed. The team will discuss this further. * The Business Constituency comment was discussed * There are no outputs and it will stay as is. * The ALAC discussed consistency among pricing for variant TLDs * There was some push back as there is not consistency among current domain sales. Pricing is set by the registry and registrar, based on the markets. * ACTION ITEM: On the ALAC comment regarding C6, Leadership and Staff will discuss on how to incorporate the comment into the recommendations or rationale. 1. AOB (3mins) * The chair provided an update on the path forward for reviewing the revised language * PR6 will be discussed in the first hour next week as a member of the RySG will only be available for the first half of the call. Thanks! Saewon, Steve, Ariel, and Dan

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Post Call | IDNs EPDP Team call | Thursday, 25 July 2024
by Devan Reed July 25, 2024

July 25, 2024

Dear all, All recordings for the IDNs EPDP Team call held on Thursday, 25 July 2024 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF> (attendance included) and the GNSO Master Calendar<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calen…>. These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) * Transcript * Agenda & Notes/Action Items (if applicable) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.icann.org/hyperkitty/list/gnso-epd…> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/uAPpCQ>. Thank you! Kind Regards, Devan

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Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 01 August 2024 at 12:00 UTC
by Devan Reed July 25, 2024

July 25, 2024

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 01 August 2024 at 12:00 UTC for 2 hours. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/GIBFF * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/rryrk332 ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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15 MINUTES REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC
by Devan Reed July 25, 2024

July 25, 2024

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC for 2 hours. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/mryww4t ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew July 24, 2024

July 24, 2024

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC for 2 hours. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/mryww4t ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #111 - Thursday 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC + Notes from Meeting #110
by Daniel Gluck July 22, 2024

July 22, 2024

Hi All! Please find below our proposed agenda for Thursday 25 July’s team call at 12:00 UTC and notes from last week’s Meeting #110. IDNs EPDP Meeting #111 <https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF> Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) 3. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments: (110mins) * Revisit comments for PR14-IG15 * Continue Discussions from “Other” (General, Charter Questions without the Team’s Responses) 1. AOB (3mins) IDNs EPDP Meeting #110<https://community.icann.org/x/FIBFF> Action Items * Staff will circulate the new language in PR6 and IG7 and The EPDP Team will review and report back. * Staff will incorporate the RPM PDP WG into the Glossary. * Staff will update the ROID entry in the glossary. Notes 1. Roll Call and SOI Updates (2 min) 2. Welcome and Chair Updates (5 min) * A brief discussion on the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group’s comment to IG 15 i. There was suggestion that rationale language could be added to ensure no PII is collected in the additional RDDS fields, which the NCSG said would be acceptable. If not possible, the NCSG would recommend dropping IG 15 entirely 1. Discuss ICANN org Request: Stabilize Outputs PR6 and IG7 (30 mins) * ICANN org has requested that the EPDP stabilize the outputs for PR6 and IG7 as they may be considered a dependency for future work on the RSP program. i. Does ICANN org want this data so the program can start early, or do they need this data so it begins on scheduled time? * ICANN org provided an update to the work that will be completed and the use case for stabilizing the outputs above. It would be nice to have, but it would not necessarily hold up work * From a team member in chat: “We should not short-circuit the EPDP processes. Recs/IGs do not become "stable" until the entire process is completed.” * Updated language that was circulated to the team was discussed and was generally received well by the team. * There was further discussion on who needs to reach consensus as opposed to which parties are part of the process. In general, everyone should be consulted, but consensus needs to be reached between gTLD Registries and ICANN org. * ACTION ITEM: Staff will circulate this language in PR6 and IG7 and The EPDP Team will review and report back. 1. Continue Reviewing Phase 2 Initial Report Public Comments (80 mins) * Start Discussions from PR17 i. On PR18, there was discussion on the subject of the Board and if a committee should be mentioned. * There was a push to drop the Board WG and just have the subject as the Board. * There was support to leaving in the reference to the ccNSO council, but the RySG is still uncomfortable with this * As this recommendation is referring to the process on IDN implementation guidelines and not the actual implementation, there was some push back from the Chair. * There is not full consensus on this recommendation, as the RySG is opposed to the ccNSO being involved in the policy process, but there is consensus, and this will be noted. i. It was suggested that reference to the ccNSO could be moved to the rationale. ii. For PR20, the RySG believes that if PR18 is updated, PR20 is not necessary. * Additional context was provided. PR18 is about formalizing and documenting the process for IDN Implementation Guidelines. PR20 is about how future versions of the IDN Implementation Guidelines are approved. The Chair supports keeping this recommendation. * Discussions on “Other” (Glossary, General, Charter Questions without the Team’s Responses) i. The team agreed that the RPM PDP WG will be explicitly mentioned in the glossary * ACTION ITEM: Staff will incorporate the RPM PDP WG into the Glossary. ii. The NCSG comment on reading level was determined by the chair to be out of scope. This topic is highly technical and difficult to understand, and it will not be easy to remove complexity from the document iii. An “easy fix” was suggested for the ALAC Comment and agreed upon by the team. * ACTION ITEM: Staff will update the ROID entry in the glossary. 1. AOB (3 min) Thanks! Saewon, Steve, Ariel, and Dan

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Post Call | IDNs EPDP Team call | Wednesday, 17 July 2024
by Devan Reed July 17, 2024

July 17, 2024

Dear all, All recordings for the IDNs EPDP Team call held on Wednesday, 17 July 2024 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/FIBFF> (attendance included) and the GNSO Master Calendar<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calen…>. These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) * Transcript * Agenda & Notes/Action Items (if applicable) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.icann.org/hyperkitty/list/gnso-epd…> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/uAPpCQ>. Thank you! Kind Regards, Devan

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Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC
by Devan Reed July 17, 2024

July 17, 2024

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 25 July 2024 at 12:00 UTC for 2 hours. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/FoBFF * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/mryww4t ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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