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very preliminary TDRP draft
by Mike O'Connor Oct. 21, 2013

Oct. 21, 2013

hi all, the drafting subteam met today and arrived at the following -- it's probably time for us to transition this draft over to Word so that we can start reviewing and redlining in a more traditional way -- so i've converted the mind-map to a word version, which is attached -- we drafting-team folks will give this a hard look to see if we've accidentally broken something that's in the current policy -- we'll do that review in parallel with the full working group for a while -- we're going to take a break from our weekly meetings. we have ideas, but we think those ideas are more policy oriented than mere drafting ideas. once the policy decisions have been made, we'll go back into drafting-team mode to polish things up. so for now, you're all welcome to take a look at this, but it's probably not a good version to really look hard at. we're pretty happy with the way we've reorganized a very complicated policy to be easier to understand and revise. there *are* a few changes in here, but they are easily removed if they conflict with the final decisions of the working group. mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 21, 2013

Oct. 21, 2013

Dear all, Apologies for the delayed draft agenda for today¹s meeting that you can find below. I have also attached Mikey¹s draft again that he sent around on Friday and that will form the basis of today¹s discussions. See you later on the call and best wishes, Lars Draft Agenda IRTP Part D PDP Working Group Meeting, Monday 21 October 2013 15.00 UTC for other times see http://tinyurl.com/mgtk9zz 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Charter Question 2 - TDRP 3. Next steps / confirm next meeting - note upcoming time change

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IRTP - TDPR subgroup
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 18, 2013

Oct. 18, 2013

Dear all, As a reminder, please find the dial in details below for our call that is due to start in 13min (20.00 UTC) Adobe Connect room: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/ <http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/> Please note that there will be NO audio enabled in the Adobe Connect room, so please all dial into the Adigo audio bridge. Audio Passcode 5913 Dial in numbers: USA: toll free: 1 800 550 6865 / toll +1 213 233 3193 For all other numbers: http://www.adigo.com/icann <http://www.adigo.com/icann>

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MP3 IRTP D meeting - 07 October 2013
by Julia Charvolen Oct. 15, 2013

Oct. 15, 2013

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is scheduled for next Monday 14 October 2013 at 1500 UTC. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 07 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131007-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Volker Greimann – RrSG James Bladel - RrSG Kristine Dorrain – NAF Chris Chaplow – CBUC Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP Graeme Bunton - RrSG Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain - RrSG Apologies: Holly Raiche – ALAC Paul Diaz – RySG Bartlett Morgan – NCUC Barbara Knight – RySG Kevin Erdman - IPC Rob Golding - RrSG ICANN staff: Lars Hoffmann Marika Konings Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 07 October 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting on Monday, 7 October 2013 Bob Mountain:Morning everyone Graeme Bunton:I bet they are in a conference room together, laughing and twisting their mustaches Kristine Dorrain:LOL Avri Doria:Special place, where did he say? Kristine Dorrain:James, we think it's critical that the Registries weigh in! Kristine Dorrain:One reminder: in the TDRP, the losing Registrar always pays..... Kristine Dorrain:We only need to decide if/how to do a loser pays in the case of the Registrant/claimant Graeme Bunton:Agreed Kristine Dorrain:Avri: There is an issue in the case of a Registrant-claimant as to *who* exactly the "losing party" is Bladel:SPeaking individually, This idea could be a deal-breaker for allowing registrants access to the TDRP Avri Doria:perhaps then we are looking for somethng other than aan ICANN DR process. Bladel::) Avri Doria:James how ICANN of you. (-: Bladel:Yes, we have become creatures of our environment. :) Kristine Dorrain:James, it's hard to think of a policy that works for registrars that do work hard for their customers and to resolve conflicts and how to deal with really PITA registrars. Bladel:Espeically given that the latter will just pass those fees thru to the affected party. Avri Doria:i owuld assume that registrars that do the right thing and serve their customers are not the ones that will be hit by these disputes. Avri Doria:well if passing the fees through to the a third party bad buy is an option, then what is the problem? Avri Doria:... a thrid party bad guy ... Volker Greimann:I can see how this would be modeled on the UDRP, so if you bring a process, you pay Kristine Dorrain:Actually Avri...people who use good registrars still get their names stolen. Julia Charvolen:recordings are stopped i AC room Bladel:Hijackers tend to use terrble credit cards. ;) Avri Doria:i think all of my credit cards are terrible. Julia Charvolen:Thank you Marika Konings:Do note that the publication deadline for Buenos Aires is 28 October.... Marika Konings:so if the intention is to obtain community input during BA, you are expected to publish by that date. Marika Konings:However, if you are only planning to present / share the findings of the report, there may be more flexibility Marika Konings:You may also want to consider to present the report during BA and then formally publish it right after BA for public comment Marika Konings:to not get into trouble with the publication deadline and people complaining about releasing documents just prior to an ICANN meeting

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TDRP working-/subgroup, Friday 20.00 UTC
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 14, 2013

Oct. 14, 2013

Dear all, Following today¹s call, please note that the TDRP working-/subgroup will meet on Friday at 20.00 UTC. The Group is open to all Working Group members and if you would like to participate please note that an invite with the call details will go out later this week once the AC room and the recording has been set up. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars

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IRTP Part D Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 13, 2013

Oct. 13, 2013

Dear all, Apologies for this slight late draft agenda for the IRTP Part D PDP Working Group meeting, Monday 14 October 2013 at 15.00 UTC - for local times see: http://tinyurl.com/ny5h6bp 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Update on the sub-group's work on the reformulation of the TDRP and discussion thereof 3. 4. AOB / Next steps and confirming next meeting Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/

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IRTP D meeting - 07 October 2013
by Angie Graves Oct. 8, 2013

Oct. 8, 2013

Hello, My apologies for missing today's meeting. I had to travel unexpectedly early this morning and am just now getting back on the grid. I will listen to the MP3 of the meeting tonight. Thank you, Angie Graves

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IRTP Part D PDP Working Group Meeting Draft Agenda
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 7, 2013

Oct. 7, 2013

Dear all, Please see below the agenda the IRTP Part D PDP Working Group Meeting, Monday 16 September 2013 Best, Lars Draft Agenda IRTP Part D Working Group Meeting - 16 September 2013 15 UTC for other place see http://tinyurl.com/oraytbz 1. Roll Call / SOI Updates 2. Review discussion and formulate recommendations on Charter Question c) 3. Review discussion and formulate recommendations on Charter Question e) 4. Review discussion and formulate recommendations on Charter Question f) 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/irtppartd/

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updated work place - page 3
by Lars Hoffmann Oct. 7, 2013

Oct. 7, 2013

Dear all, In light of today¹s agenda, please find attached an updated version of our work plan. All relevant dates are on page 3 and high lightened in green (today¹s meeting) and yellow (future milestones). Looking forward to discussing this further on today¹s call. Best wishes, Lars

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*very* rough draft of heavily-revised TDRP
by Mike O'Connor Oct. 6, 2013

Oct. 6, 2013

hi all, i'm attaching two formats of the same document -- a Freemind mind-map, and a web-page (HTML) version. if you want to read the mind-map, you can obtain the open-source Freemind software here - http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download. the html version will open in your web browser and you'll be able to expand and close up the sections there. the HTML version works a bit better if you'd like to export it into Word. we'll be doing a first walk-through of these drafts tomorrow. be not dismayed by the fact that the organization of the policy is different. we found that the current policy is such redundant spaghetti that we felt we needed to clean it up in order to be able to revise it. we think this reorg will make the policy much easier for Registrars and Registrants to understand, no matter what changes the WG makes to the substance of the policy. we've also included some substantive changes -- and have questions for the WG to ponder with regard to others. mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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