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FOA
by Alan Greenberg July 28, 2014

July 28, 2014

I haven't been actively participating in this WG, but have been monitoring. I understand that the issue of whether the FOA is still really needed has come up. I do have some thoughts on this. It *might* be true that the FOA is an archaic thing of the past, but we do not have any evidence of it at the moment. There have been a lot of changes with respect to inter-registrar transfers recently, and more to come. But we do not yet fully understand how these are working or will work. At the moment, transfers are still the number one complaint that Contractual Compliance receives after Whois accuracy. For the period of February-June 2014, there were 2427 transfer complaints received, totally over 13% of all registrar-related complaints logged, and almost 10 times the number of the next-highest non-Whois related complaints. Accordingly, it may well be that case that once all of the dust settles, the FOA may be seen as of minimal value. But that time is not now. The WG on Policy and Implementation is actively discussing how issues such as this one could be addressed after a PDP has completed if needed. I would suggest the IRTP-D WG flag this issue as one to be reviewed in a couple of years, and that a recommendation then be issued to consider the removal of the requirement if the evidence supports it at that time. Alan

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Attendance MP3 IRTP D meeting - Monday 21 July 2014
by Terri Agnew July 21, 2014

July 21, 2014

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held 28 July 2014. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 21 July 2014 at 15:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140721-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140721-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Barbara Knight – RySG James Bladel - RrSG Graeme Bunton – RrSG Holly Raiche – ALAC Volker Greimann – RrSG Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain – RrSG Arthur Zonnenberg – RrSG Kevin Erdman – IPC Rob Golding – RrSG Kristine Dorrian – National Arbitration Forum Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG ICANN staff: Marika Konings Amy Bivins Lars Hoffmann Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 21 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 21 July 2014 Bladel:Dialing in... Terri Agnew:Bob and Arthur I did include you in roll call Arthur Zonnenberg:im hearings James in echo can he turn his volume down please? Terri Agnew:Avri Doria has joined Terri Agnew:Arthur, has echo gotten better? Arthur Zonnenberg:yes it's beter now Terri Agnew:thank you Marika Konings:@Berry - correct, it didn't address that issue as far as I am aware but was brought up as part of the Issue Report in response to IRTP Part D, if I am not mistaken. Terri Agnew:Kevin Erdman has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:should not irtp-c handle its own use cases? irtp-c should not leave uncertainty... Berry Cobb:That's the conundrum. Berry Cobb:Check. Just so we modify that last phrase of the recommendation. Terri Agnew:Rob Golding has joined Graeme Bunton:/tumblweed Berry Cobb:At our next IRTP-C IRT, I will ensure that staff/IRT review these use cases.....that should help tee up the issue report. Terri Agnew:Kristine Dorrain has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:1st level support by registrars, 2nd level by icann compliance, 3rd level by tdrp provider, 4th by law? Arthur Zonnenberg:(disputes) Arthur Zonnenberg:will those icann explanations be translated in Dutch? Arthur Zonnenberg:fully agree on recommendation 15 and 16 Bob Mountain:Isn't Authorization misspelled? Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Not in the UK Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Not in *english* :p Bob Mountain:Snobs Kristine Dorrain-NAF::) Holly Raiche:Oz spelling also uses the 's' Bob Mountain:We need a PDP on this one Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):Some form of FOA is needed, but I think that the reliance on the current 'standarised emiail' should not be the only type Arthur Zonnenberg:if they hack the registrar account they can change the email address and after processing confirm the foa. the rnh already agrees with terms and conditions via new registrar. Arthur Zonnenberg:icann compliance would still have foc for auditing. you doubt our data but did you calculate your fail rate? Volker Greimann:how is that evidence that the registrant agreed? Arthur Zonnenberg:are locking mechanisms necessary? i doubt enough has been done to accomodate end users ease of transfer. Arthur Zonnenberg:im not supporting complete elimination Arthur Zonnenberg:how is the foa evidence that the registrant agreed? Terri Agnew:As a reminder, please mute when not speaking Arthur Zonnenberg:can we please investigate fail rates? Graeme Bunton:That seems very sensible, Berry. Graeme Bunton:Happy to work with you on wording to the RRsg and data collection template Berry Cobb:Is there support by the other Registrars on this call to kick this over to the RrSG? Berry Cobb:Thank you Graeme. If this is acceptable, I can start a first draft. Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):There are registrars which are 'hard' to transfer away from Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):GD isn't one of those, so I support James earlier comments completely Arthur Zonnenberg:besides transfers failing due to transfer locks and 60 day locks Bladel:Rob - we are getting better! :) Bladel:It wasn't alwasy that clear. Arthur Zonnenberg:i agree with you Rob GD is not that hard. still every step you ask increases the fail rate is what we see in the data. Arthur Zonnenberg:transfers should be as user friendly as they can be i Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):the problems we see are Arthur Zonnenberg:i think :-) Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user education - they dont understand all the steps Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user incompetence - they dont complete all the steps Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):user configuration - they dont get (or mark-as-spam) the FOA Arthur Zonnenberg:yes rob but even with education, too many steps make you give up Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):as far bigger issues than registrar 'awkwardness' in enforcing policy Kristine Dorrain-NAF:I have to run....thanks all, talk to you next week! Arthur Zonnenberg:if you dont know about domains should your wish be prevented by locks or steps that dont add security Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thansk james Avri Doria:bye, thanks

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For your review
by Lars Hoffmann July 18, 2014

July 18, 2014

Dear all, Attached again the latest version of the recommendations (same version that was sent out yesterday) - and please also see the draft agenda for Monday. Many thanks and have a good weekend! Lars Proposed Draft Agenda IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 21 July 2014, 15.00 UTC 1. Roll Call/SOI Update 2. Review redline-version of recommendations and determining consensus level 3. Next steps/Confirming next meeting

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updates
by Lars Hoffmann July 17, 2014

July 17, 2014

Dear all, Please find attached the updated version with all agreed changes implemented and any agreed new drafts added in redline. Note that we are going to pick up on p.9 from Recommendation #8. I will send out the agenda tomorrow! Best, Lars

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Attendance MP3 IRTP D meeting - Monday 14 July 2014
by Terri Agnew July 14, 2014

July 14, 2014

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held 21 July 2014. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 14 July 2014 at 15:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140714-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140714-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Barbara Knight – RySG James Bladel - RrSG Kristine Dorrian – National Arbitration Forum Graeme Bunton – RrSG Angie Graves – BC Holly Raiche – ALAC Volker Greimann – RrSG Rob Golding - RrSG Kevin Erdman – IPC Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain – RrSG Arthur Zonnenberg – RrSG Chris Chaplow – CBUC Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG ICANN staff: Marika Konings Lars Hoffmann Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 14 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 14 July 2014 Terri Agnew:Welcome Arthur Zonnenberg Terri Agnew:Kevin Erdman and Bob Mounatin has joined Terri Agnew:Avri Doria has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:hi terri and group. Barbara Knight:I would support a go forward process for this requirement as well. Holly Raiche:Only going forward was my assumption Arthur Zonnenberg:I sent an email to the mailing list with feedback on the current final report as well as responses to comments made last week Avri Doria:While i can see the history being useful, the work required seem sunproportionate to the value. I agree going forward is sufficinet. Arthur Zonnenberg:go ahead on charter questions A and B Terri Agnew:As a reminder, on telephone you can press *6 to mute or *6 to unmute Graeme Bunton:you're very quiet kevin Volker Greimann:kevin, I cannot hear a word Holly Raiche:I like the term 'immediately prior' as clearer Arthur Zonnenberg:agreement with James that that would be less ambiguous than originaliteit Arthur Zonnenberg:(Apple chargés all my text...) Graeme Bunton:duplicative! Graeme Bunton:(not saying it is, enjoying the word) Arthur Zonnenberg:THE current irtp already requires locking or THE udrp does Arthur Zonnenberg:agree to include lock Marika Konings:It is currently out for public comment, if I am not mistaken. Marika Konings:the implementation plan, that is... Marika Konings:It closes on 18 July (see https://www.icann.org/public-comments/udrp-rules-proposed-2014-05-19-en) Marika Konings:"The current plan is to announce implementation in November or December with a six-month implementation deadline." Marika Konings::-) Terri Agnew:Chris Chaplow has joined Chris Chaplow:thanks, awaiting dial in operator now Terri Agnew:Hi Chris, I see you have joined audio Chris Chaplow:yes all fine, thanks, apologies for v late Terri Agnew:Rob Golding has joined Arthur Zonnenberg:is an official disputen resolution provider necessary for a non legal domain procedure? Arthur Zonnenberg:holly even if you clarify it they are unlikely to pay the fee.. Holly Raiche:.I undestand that. The purpose of more clarity is to at least let the registrant know when they can approach ICANN and when not Arthur Zonnenberg:agree holly :) Holly Raiche:In the London meeting we did discuss hat we need to at least review te implication of costs Holly Raiche:Barbara's point was taken into account in London - it actually costs! Arthur Zonnenberg:I think the drp should be a second option not a frist Arthur Zonnenberg:first Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Fair point...you're saying that the DRP is not the only option under the enhanced IRTP and compliance role.? Berry Cobb:There is a 1st level, yes? The Rt working with their respective Rr to resolve the issue, prior to any TDRP being initiatied? Arthur Zonnenberg:must agree with James, but then registrar outreach must be informed to rnh more clearly Arthur Zonnenberg:Kristine yes give the first verdict to icann compliance Arthur Zonnenberg:then rnh can always pay more for tdrp or court Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Aurthur, to be clear compliance doesn't have an official TDRP function. Arthur Zonnenberg:Kristine I know but often that is not required. rnh just wants their domain back. compliance could be given such official function if necessary I think Arthur Zonnenberg:icann is not the registrars nor registrars and can definitely policy registrars :) Arthur Zonnenberg:thans Lets continue next week Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):thanks james

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Final Report Recommendations
by Lars Hoffmann July 14, 2014

July 14, 2014

Dear all, Please find attached a first red-line version of the recommendation for the Final Report. In light of Monday¹s agenda (see below) it would be very useful if you could familiarise yourself with the changes as we will start working on determining consensus level on at least some of these. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars Proposed Draft Agenda IRTP Part D PDP WG, Monday 14 July 2014 1. Roll Call/SOI Update 2. Review redline-version of recommendations and determining consensus level 3. Next steps/Confirming next meeting

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Attendance MP3 IRTP D meeting - Monday 07 July 2014
by Terri Agnew July 7, 2014

July 7, 2014

Dear All, The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting will be held 14 July 2014. Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on Monday 07 July 2014 at 15:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140707-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20140707-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Barbara Knight – RySG James Bladel - RrSG Kristine Dorrian – National Arbitration Forum Graeme Bunton – RrSG Angie Graves – BC Holly Raiche – ALAC Volker Greimann – RrSG Rob Golding - RrSG Kevin Erdman – IPC Avri Doria – NCSG Bob Mountain – RrSG Arthur Zonnenberg – RrSG Bartlett Morgan – NCUC Apologies: Paul Diaz – RySG ICANN staff: Amy Bivins Marika Konings Lars Hoffmann Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 07 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG meeting, Monday 7 July 2014 Terri Agnew:Bob Mountain and Volker Greimann has joined Bob Mountain:Good morning Volker Greimann:good afternoon Terri Agnew:Arthur Zonnenberg has joined audio Graeme:quiet for me too, bob Angie Graves:Tought to hear you Bob Mountain:Using a new computer so challenged will dial in Terri Agnew:Rob Golding has joined Bob Mountain:not yet Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):How are they getting the EPP ? Terri Agnew:Bartlett Morgan has joined Bartlett Morgan:Hello all. Apologies for being late; another meeting ran over Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):"for the maority of inter-registrar transfers" perhaps ? Terri Agnew:Kristine Dorrain has joined Kristine Dorrain:So sorry I Kristine Dorrain:Monday after a holiday is nuts. :) Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):perhaps we need *a* form of authority rather than just teh current email 'standard' form of authority ? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):i.e as long as you can prove it ? Berry Cobb:Volker, where did you see the language in the IRTP? Berry Cobb:Link? Rob Golding (Astutium-1471):unnecessary delay ? Berry Cobb:Got it now. Thx Berry Cobb:https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/policy-transfers-2014-07-02-en Avri Doria:bye Bartlett Morgan:bye Bob Mountain:Thanks James

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GNSO Working Group Calendar Invitations
by Nathalie Peregrine July 7, 2014

July 7, 2014

Dear all, The GNSO Secretariat is happy to announce that they are now going to add calendar invitations to the usual Working Group invitation emails. Therefore, from today onwards, along with the regular email invitation, there will be a calendar invitation attached to the email. This invitation should adapt to all formats of email calendar. Should you wish to test this feature, please proceed as below: 1- Open the attachment and accept the invitation. Please do NOT send the reply back to the sender. 2- Please check calendar invite is in correct slot according to your individual calendar time zone 3- Please email gnso-secs(a)icann.org with any worry or concern you may have with this feature. We will be sending out emails in a few weeks' time to get member feedback. Thank you! Nathalie GNSO Secretariat

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For your review
by Lars Hoffmann July 7, 2014

July 7, 2014

Dear all, Apologies for the late notice please find below the agenda for today¹s IRTP Part D Call. Best wishes, Lars Proposed Draft Agenda: IRTP Part D Working Group Meeting - Monday 07 July 2014 15:00 UTC 1. Roll Call/SOI Update 2. Finalising Recommendation #14 (FOAs) 3. Reviewing timetable (atttached) 4. Next steps/Confirming next meeting

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REMINDER: PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session
by Terri Agnew July 1, 2014

July 1, 2014

Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 3 July at 20.00 UTC Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. If you are interested to join the next meeting on 3 July or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs(a)icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. Feel free to share this invitation with others that you think may be interested. We look forward to welcoming you at the next meeting! Nathalie Peregrine & Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat

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