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DC-DNSI session at EuroDIG
by Roberto Gaetano June 15, 2019

June 15, 2019

Dear all, The topic of UA and IDN will be addressed in the “Encouraging a multilingual Internet" session at EuroDIG next Tuesday. Please see below the web page with all the details. https://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/Encouraging_a_multilingual_Internet_–_Pre_08_2…<https://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/Encouraging_a_multilingual_Internet_%E2%80%93_…>. Remote participation is possible. Cheers, Roberto

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Fecha de encuentro
by Cristian Casas May 29, 2019

May 29, 2019

Consulto ¿cuándo hay próximo encuentro? Cristian Casas

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RZ-LGR Study Group releases report for comments
by Satish Babu May 20, 2019

May 20, 2019

RZ-LGR-SG has released the Recommendations for the Technical Utilization of the Root Zone Label Generation Rules to seek feedback from the community. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-05-15-en?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTkdVN… With kind regards, satish

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Fwd: [UA-discuss] GNSO requested deferral of IDN Guidelines 4.0 Vote - CPH / Registrants impact
by Roberto Gaetano May 18, 2019

May 18, 2019

Hi all. Please find below the email that Jothan Frakes has sent, in his personal capacity, to the UASG mailing list and that I am forwarding you with his permission. I believe that there are some points that should make us think. As Jothan notes, standards do not impact only contracted parties but have an effect also on registrants and users at-large. I believe that we have not done enough so far in identifying those impacts - and maybe this working group is the place where to develop this discussion. I am in Bucharest, where I have attended SEEDIG. This has been a great experience for a number of reasons, a very important one being that most languages in this region have non-ASCII scripts - or have at least diacritical characters that imply the use of IDNs. I have learned that the ccTLDs of this region have different policies for treating variants, and this creates a different user experience in different countries. I was wondering - and I will ask the same question to the UASG - whether we have a report on how variants are managed by different IDN registries. This could be a good starting point to compare the effect upon different registrants and Internet users. Opinions? Cheers, Roberto Begin forwarded message: From: Jothan Frakes <jothan(a)gmail.com<mailto:jothan@gmail.com>> Subject: [UA-discuss] GNSO requested deferral of IDN Guidelines 4.0 Vote - CPH / Registrants impact Date: 30. April 2019 at 23:27:03 EEST To: "UA-discuss(a)icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>" <UA-discuss(a)icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>> The GNSO just sent a letter to request that the vote on adoption of the IDN Guidelines 4.0 be deferred There is some UA pain that will come from these Guidelines we should be completely aware of. It is important to identify the manner in which standards can impact the contracted parties, such as the Registries and Registrars, but getting even further out the supply chain into registrants and Internet users, there are some impacts to them as well as their audiences. If the new standard causes something that was a separate registration to become a variant of another registration, or invalidates an existing registration, this is a bad outcome for the innovators, developers, and early patrons that supported the internationalization of the namespace. Part of what the objective of UA is, to my reckoning, is to increase engagement and support of coding projects that will require adoption of standards that may not immediately hold levels of RoI to them, and they are looking for reasons not to do them. These new guidelines are good - and needed - they are the result of many people's hard work, time and wisdom, and address many solutions. The approach of pushing these out is problematic. Further, there seems no recourse for those (even if statistically small) who may be impacted adversely, lose their domain, or have it be invalidated (and thus REVERSE their UA experience) There is potential impact to existing TLDs, and most notably to registrants of second level names where there are registrations using former standards that become unsupported or invalidated. A very important challenge we face with the UA effort is inspiring developers to implement IDN and EAI as we help globalize the Internet through our work. IF the approach on standards will be to invalidate some portion of the community of registrations like this, there must be attention to how this impacts existing innovators. Innovators worked to drive the standards and increase awareness - and the invalidation or deprecation of a registration that someone has carried for a number of years (some are 15+ years) is the precise opposite of a reward for early support, and it is going to send a very loud message to developers. I believe that further review is needed by registries on the technical impacts of the changes, but any delay can help ICANN and the community address the disenfranchisement factor. This should be important to UASG - we need developers to embrace the additional effort that they have to invest in their work to consider IDN, EAI and other things. -Jothan Jothan Frakes +1.206-355-0230 tel +1.206-201-6881 fax

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Fwd: IGF 2019 Workshop Proposal Submitted
by Roberto Gaetano April 19, 2019

April 19, 2019

Hi all. Please find below the confirmation of the successful submission, thanks to everybody for the support. As you can see, the proposal is far from perfect, but may be good enough to get attention. I would like to make a couple of considerations. This is just the beginning of the work, we need to prepare the session, if the proposal is accepted, which means to contact potential speakers and participants in order to ensure contribution from the widest possible perspectives, but keeping in mind that the primary focus is not the development of technical solutions - that is being taken care by other groups like UASG - but the impact on the average internet user. So the focus will be on things like the user experience and the impact on deployment of local content. I would encourage all to subscribe to the ALAC IDN-WG, co-chaired by Satish and Edmon, as I assume that most of the discussion will take place there, as it is the natural place where the user perspective will be analysed and developed because of the focus of ALAC on users. Please find at https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg the relevant information to join. Last but not least, there will be meetings where IDN, UA and Multilingualism will be discussed before the Global IGF in Berlin. The ones that I am aware of, and that I will attend, are SEEDIG (Bucharest, May 2019) and EuroDIG (den Haag, June 2019). Please share information about other opportunities to discuss these issues. Best regards, Roberto Begin forwarded message: From: "Internet Governance Forum via Internet Governance Forum" <no-reply(a)intgovforum.org<mailto:no-reply@intgovforum.org>> Subject: IGF 2019 Workshop Proposal Submitted Date: 15. April 2019 at 01:13:56 CEST To: roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> Reply-To: "Internet Governance Forum" <no-reply(a)intgovforum.org<mailto:no-reply@intgovforum.org>> Dear Mr. Roberto Gaetano, Your Workshop Proposal for IGF 2019 titled Multilingual Internet: support local languages and scripts has been received. It will be evaluated according to the process outlined at https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-workshop-review-and-ev…. The proposal data submitted is as follows: ==*1. Proposer (Contact Person)*== Gender: Male Family Name: Gaetano Given Name: Roberto Nationality: Italy E-mail: roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com<mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com> Stakeholder Group: Civil Society Regional Group: Western European and Others Group (WEOG) Organization: ALAC IDN Working Group Country where Organization is based: India ==*2. Theme*== Theme: Digital Inclusion 3. Issues: * Digital Divide * Social Inclusion * Multilingual [1] *4. Workshop Session Title*: Multilingual Internet: support local languages and scripts *5. Policy Question(s)*: 1. In what ways are domain names in writing systems other than basic Latin script ("internationalized domain names" or IDNs) and global use, accessibility, and acceptability ("universal acceptance" or UA) critical to a truly multilingual Internet? 2. What is the current state of IDNs & Universal Acceptance adoption worldwide? 3. What are the limitations of IDNs (eg., variant management, transitional issues) and how may they be managed? 4. Where are the impediments in the adoption of UA? 5. What actions need to be taken by communities, Governments, businesses and Internet Government organizations to address these? 6. Is the lack of Universal Acceptance hindering the deployment of Internet content developed locally? *6. Relevance to Theme*: The workshop aims at identifying factors that are limiting the Universal Acceptance of domain names and email addresses, including, but not limited to, identifiers written in non-ASCII (or Latin) scripts. Lack of Universal Acceptance affects Digital Inclusion, because it does not provide equal opportunities to users who are not familiar with Latin script and with the English language. The workshop addresses SDG10, that is to "Reduce inequality within and among countries". *7. Relevance to Internet Governance*: In order to ensure Universal Acceptance and a fully multilingual Internet we need to make policy decisions and define governance processes. Universal Acceptance and a fully multilingual Internet are of the paramount importance to achieve equal opportunity of access and best use of the content. The workshop aims not just at identifying factors that are limiting the Universal Acceptance, but also to gather and share the best experience and practice worldwide - this requires collaborative efforts and good governance processes, but also exploring the role of Governments. ==*8. Workshop Session Format*== Session Format: Round Table - U-shape - 90 Min ==*9. Diversity*== First Time in IGF: Yes b. Are you and/or your co-organizers coming from a *developing country [2]* or under-represented region? Developing Countries: Yes ==Diversity Options== Gender Diversity: Yes Geography Diversity: Yes Stakeholder Group Diversity: Yes Policy Perspective Diversity: Yes Accessibility Diversity: No Youth Diversity: Yes Local Diversity: Yes Diversity Information: The organisers will promote the event in the At-Large community to fill in the only gap in the diversity criteria *10. Workshop Session Description*: The session will start with a brief introduction of the topic and the speakers (10') Then the speakers will address the following points (30'): - problems arising from the lack of Universal Acceptance and different approaches to solve them; - successful stories about efforts to achieve Universal Acceptance, including examples of countries and actions; - examples of situation in which wider and easier access to the Internet content, in particular the one developed locally, can be achieved with Universal Acceptance. The main focus will be on the user experience rather than on technical issues and technical solutions. The floor will be open for contributions, local and remote (30'). The panelists will be asked for opinions about the way forward - this may include comments from the floor (15'). The moderator will close the session summarising the next steps (5'). *11. Workshop Session Expected Outcomes*: - Share information about the current scenario and pending issues; - Raise awareness about the obstacles that prevent universal acceptance and full multilingualism; - Identify paths to follow and indicate possible solutions to the present situation; - Identify potential policy issues. ==*12. Organizers Information*== Email addresses of organizers (comma separated): sbabu(a)ieee.org<mailto:sbabu@ieee.org>, edmon(a)registry.asia<mailto:edmon@registry.asia>, Filinafilka(a)gmail.com<mailto:Filinafilka@gmail.com>, desaradushi(a)gmail.com<mailto:desaradushi@gmail.com>, john+igf(a)jck.com<mailto:john+igf@jck.com>, lutz(a)donnerhacke.de<mailto:lutz@donnerhacke.de> ==*13. Speakers*== Email addresses of provisionally confirmed speakers (comma separated): sb(a)inapp.com<mailto:sb@inapp.com>,edmon(a)registry.asia<mailto:edmon@registry.asia>,Filinafilka(a)gmail.com<mailto:Filinafilka@gmail.com>,paf(a)netnod.se<mailto:paf@netnod.se> Speakers Availability: It may be that one of the speakers will present from remote ==*14. Moderators*== Online Moderator: Filinafilka(a)gmail.com<mailto:Filinafilka@gmail.com> Onsite Moderator: edmon(a)registry.asia<mailto:edmon@registry.asia> *15. Rapporteur*: sbabu(a)ieee.org<mailto:sbabu@ieee.org> ==*16. Session Interaction and Participation*== Discussion Facilitation: First and foremost, the topic will be widely discussed in the ALAC IDN Working Group in the months preceding the IGF, encouraging participation and discussion also in other fora, including national and regional IGF. Following this preliminary work, it is expected that the participation from the floor (local and remote) will be high. The moderator will act also as timekeeper making sure that the speakers stay within the topic and the time limits, providing enough time for contributions by the audience. Online Tools: Yes Online Participation: The Online Moderator will be in constant contact with the remote participants and will make sure their voice gets heard at the session. The organisers still need to evaluate how to make the best use of the facilities - this will be done over the next month or so. Other Tools: Yes Social Tools: The organisers still need to evaluate how to make the best use of the facilities - this will be done over the next month or so. *17. Relation to SDGs*: - GOAL 9: Industry, Innovation and Infrastructure - GOAL 10: Reduced Inequalities - GOAL 11: Sustainable Cities and Communities ==*18. Optional Documentation*== Additional Reference Document Link: Additional Background Paper : Thank you for your interest in holding a workshop at the IGF. Kind regards, IGF Secretariat. [1]https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/subthemes2019inclusion/multiling… [2]https://www.un.org/development/desa/dpad/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/WESP…

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Workshop at the IGF 2019
by Roberto Gaetano April 13, 2019

April 13, 2019

Dear all, As anticipated, we will be proposing a workshop on multilingualism and Universal Acceptance. Is any member planning to attend the IGF in Berlin and willing to take an active role as co-organizer? I need to provide a list of names by EOB tomorrow. Sorry for the last minute request, but I have overlooked this requirement. Best regards, Roberto

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Proposal for the IGF 2019 in Berlin
by Roberto Gaetano April 13, 2019

April 13, 2019

Hi all. The EURALO Individual Users Association is preparing a proposal for the Global IGF - that follows a similar topic for discussion at SEEDIG and EuroDIG. We are a bit short of time, since the deadline is this coming Sunday, so there will not be much time to work on the text, but at least we might give a try. There are several groups that work currently on IDN and UA. My personal opinion is that the focus is still mainly on the technical aspects rather than on the user experience, and also that UA is not just a DNS matter but it involves other domains like, for instance, search engines. In simple words, what we would like to do, as Internet users, is to focus on the user experience in a global way. Subtopics can be search engines, multilingualism (and use of multiple scripts), elements that hinder the deployment of locally developed contents, and so on. Of course, we the overarching element is how the governance of the processes that aim at achieving Universal Acceptance. We will submit a draft for comments by this WG and discussion on how to proceed. Best regards, Roberto

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Re: [IDN-WG] Solicito ingresar al grupo de trabajo
by Nitin Walia March 29, 2019

March 29, 2019

Dear Satish JiGood to hear that you have re-animating this WG, looking forward to contribute once this process is complete . Warm Regards Nitin Walia | DirectorT: +91-141-2554970E: nitin(a)data.inL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nitinwalia1977Get email id like नितिन(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language, download DATAMAIL app from your iOS or android play store. Visit: www.datainfosys.com www.xgenplus.com www.datamail.in www.bharatsync.com www.spamjadoo.com From: Satish Babu via IDN-WG MailId : [89932941]To: cristiancasas(a)hotmail.comCc: ICANN At-Large Staff ,No name Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] Solicito ingresar al grupo de trabajoDate: 28 Mar 2019 04:00:26 PM Hi CristanThanks for your interest in the IDN-WG, and apologies for responding inEnglish.I`m requesting Staff to add you to the WG.satishOn Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:49 PM Cristian Casas wrote:> Por la presente solicito me inscriban en el grupo de trabajo gracias.> Cristian Casas> _______________________________________________> IDN-WG mailing list> IDN-WG(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg>> IDN WG Wiki:> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+IDN+Policy>_______________________________________________IDN-WG mailing listIDN-WG@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wgIDN WG Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+IDN+Policy.Do not Remove:[HID]20190328160026300[-HID] [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER]

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(no subject)
by Naeemuddin Hadi March 29, 2019

March 29, 2019

Hi all, I recently subscribed to this mailing list and the reason is my interest in IDNs, I knew about TF-AIDN(task force on Arabic script internationalized domain names) and after that I wanted to know and learn about UA. thanks, Naeem

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Solicito ingresar al grupo de trabajo
by Cristian Casas March 28, 2019

March 28, 2019

Por la presente solicito me inscriban en el grupo de trabajo gracias. Cristian Casas

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