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[rssac-caucus] Fwd: The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable | The Washington Post
by Barbara Roseman June 3, 2015

June 3, 2015

Many of you already know this history, but from the Washington Post, this is a good overview of how the Internet in the US was developed without security as a primary concern. Very nice overview of the beginnings of things. Looks as if it may be part of a series and we¹ll forward the rest as it becomes available. -Barb Begin forwarded message: > From: David Olive <david.olive(a)icann.org> > Date: May 31, 2015 at 5:40:05 PM GMT+3 > To: David Olive <david.olive(a)icann.org> > Subject: The real story of how the Internet became so vulnerable | The > Washington Post > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/05/30/net-of-insecurity-part… > ?wprss=rss_MobileTopStories > > > David A. Olive > Sent from my iPad

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[rssac-caucus] Six New RSSAC Caucus Members
by Carlos Reyes May 1, 2015

May 1, 2015

Dear RSSAC Caucus, I hope you are well. Earlier this month, the RSSAC approved six new members of the RSSAC Caucus as recommended by the Membership Committee: * Adiel Akplogan * Bobby Cates * Wes Hardaker * Keith Mitchell * Gerry Sneeringer * William Sotomayor Their statements of interest can be found here <https://community.icann.org/x/orzhAg> . Please join me in welcoming them. Best, Carlos Carlos Reyes Senior Policy Analyst ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006 | www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> carlos.reyes(a)icann.org | +1 (202) 802-8019

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[rssac-caucus] Meeting Notes and Actions from 23 TTL WP Call
by Steve Sheng April 30, 2015

April 30, 2015

Dear all, My apologies for sending the notes and action items for this call late. Steve 23 April 2015 RSSAC Caucus TTL WP Call Participants: Duane Wessels (leader), Jaap Akkerhuis, John Bond, Joe Abley, Matt Thomas. Staff: Steve Sheng, Carlos Reyes, Barbara Roseman, Kathy Schnitt Apologies: Brian Dickson, Warren Kumari Action items: * Matt and Shumon to rerun the test measuring the DS and DNSKEY TTLS for TLDs with a more recent copy of the root zone file. Also perform the analysis to compare NS and DNSKEY on a per TLD basis to see if they are the same or different. * Jaap to continue the task of finding the recursive resolver application's TTL settings. Jaap to provide some text about measurements of TTL in relation to Warren¹s contribution. * Each of the streams of work to provide an ETA for their efforts. * Duane to send an email to the WP regarding 6 May meeting time, if no objections the next meeting will be 6 May. Decision: * For next meeting, the working group will create the report document and puttings things together. Notes: Kathy Schnitt:Apology: Brian Dickson jaap akkerhuis:No sound no mike Kathy Schnitt:Japp sound on AC is working now Matt: Shumon and I measured the TTL of DS and DNSKEY of delegated TLDs, these came from root zone file in March the DS key TTL is uniform. There were some DS keys that are absent. The DNSKEY, there is a non-uniform TTL distribution. Majority is 86400. A large portion of them have smaller values, varing from TTLs in ccTLDs. We plan to rerun the test, as quite a few TLDs have been delegated. Duane: The graph you send are specific to DNSKEY TTLs, right? Duane: have you done work on NS TTLs? Duane: Matt is having some connectivity issues. Duane: This is good. One thing is compare to compare NS and DNSKEY on a per TLD basis. Duane: To see if they are the same or they are different. Matt: Sure. ACTION ITEM: Matt to compare NS and DNSKEY TTL for the root zone. ACTION: With new zone file. Jaap: It is too early to draw conclusions. Duane: Yes, I agree. Since most of the TTL is one day. Matt: Duane and I are doing some analysis on the DITL data. Matt: As it stand, we are about half way done. Matt: We use the root zone file to determine delegated TLDs. Matt: We calculate, minimum, maximum, mean, median time delta of the queries. Kathy Schnitt:Warren is unable to make the call today. Matt: This graph shows the distribution of the queries by TLD. Matt: The number of requests measured by IP. Duane: As we are writing the report on TTL, we need to think about what group of users are most important. Duane: One thing is to profile the IP by query types. Duane: To identify recursive resolvers. Duane: The problem of identifying typical is that they are all over the map. Duane: It is difficult to define normal vs. abnormal. John: Looking at that, it seems there is no impact if changing TTL from 2 day to 1 day. Duane: That seems to be my understanding, but this affect clients, we need to see how many queries are affected. Duane: Jaap, do you have any news for us? Jaap: I looked at warren's measurements, but I think some of it may not be measuring the right thing. Jaap: [not captured] Duane: It would be good to document this behavior. ACTION: Jaap to continue the task on the recursive resolver application TTL. Jaap: Also Peter Koch did not respond to my requests for root zone's prior 1999. Duane: Let's look at SOA. John: I have put my contribution in the email, my recommendation is change some values. Duane: I tend to agree. Duane: One way is to lower the zone expiry time from 7 days to 3 days at least to solve this problem. Duane: The other to increase the validity period to 20 days. Duane: The other option is to generate more signatures more frequently. John: My gut feeling here is changing the expiray in SOA seem to make the most sense. That value seems a little bit too high, I woudl prefer root zone to expire their data earlier than 7 days. The root server operators should ensure their servers much earlier than expiry period. Joe: There is also a large part of the population not validating DNSSEC. Duane: I have some experience with this kind of thing, the tool is designed to tell whether you were using a validating recusive name server. The first time you query it, it responded with bad response, and expected you to try again. Duane: This works great for BIND. It works just ok for UNBOUND. It works terribly for Nominom's implementation. as they only tried once. Duane: I think there is nothing in the protocol that mandates retrial numbers. Duane: I suspect we will need RSSAC to choose. Duane: Are there any last minute things to talk about. Duane: I will send out a message to the list. For each item, let's get an update progress and ETA. I think maybe in about 2 weeks we should start creating the report document and puttings things together. That would give us three weeks before our deadline. John: My item is complete, but Joe raised a good point. How caching resolvers respond when they get an expired response. Duane: One administrivia in two weeks, I will be heading to OARC meeting. Can we reschedule that. to the day before? ACTION: Duane to send a note asking people's flexibility on Wed 6 May. jabley:thanks! jaap akkerhuis:Later!

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by Mandy April 22, 2015

April 22, 2015

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[rssac-caucus] 22 March 2015 - RSSAC caucus kick off meeting draft notes
by Steve Sheng March 23, 2015

March 23, 2015

Dear RSSAC Caucus, Attached please find the draft notes from yesterday's Caucus kick off meeting. Please let us know if we have missed any important points or mischaracterized any discussions, so that we can correct them. In general, a lot of good points and suggestions were raised, but need to be followed up on the mailing list, to provide more substance to these points and suggestions so that conclusions can be reached. All the best, Steve

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[rssac-caucus] Two brainstorm suggestions Re: Invitation to RSSAC Caucus meeting at IETF in Dallas.
by Wang Wei March 23, 2015

March 23, 2015

Dear Liman Thanks you for hosting Caucus meeting. I really enjoy the communication with every members this afternoon. Here I just want to send you formally the suggestions I raised in brainstorm session. 1) draft report on expectation and measurement of root servers from customers side RSSAC 001 and 002 focus on the expectation and measurement of root servers from root operators side. But considering DNS resolution mechanism, the one-way measurement from root operators would not be able to reflect root service seen on the stub-resolvers or recursive servers. During the root mirror instances deployment in China, we found the end user side measurement is vital for root service evaluation and planning. We suggest that expectation and measurement from customer side should be considered, like what ICANN test New gTLD. 2) involve more parties in root operation At least for emergency response and communication, local root mirror hosts should be informed and could provide assistance. Some recursive operators should also be considered if they load zonefile in cache as described in draft-ietf-dnsop-root-loopback-01. Hope these suggestion might help. Btw, I just quit from CNNIC, could you please replace wangwei(a)cnnic.cn into wesley(a)zdns.cn in the mailing list? thanks Regards Wang Wei

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[rssac-caucus] 2015-03-22 meeting slides.
by Lars-Johan Liman March 22, 2015

March 22, 2015

These slides will be used during the meeting soon.

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[rssac-caucus] Invitation to RSSAC Caucus meeting at IETF in Dallas.
by Lars-Johan Liman March 22, 2015

March 22, 2015

Dear colleagues, We are planning a "kick-off" meeting for the RSSAC Caucus at the upcoming IETF in Dallas. The almost certain date is March 22, 2015, 15:30 - 17:00 local time. Please mark your calendar. We invite all Caucus members to participate (in person or via remote participation) to dialogue on work procedures, brainstorm about current and future work items (see the preliminary agenda below). We will send updated agenda details, meeting logistics as well as remote participation information as we have them, but you should expect the meeting to take place in the immediate vicinity of the IETF venue. Best, Lars-Johan Liman (RSSAC co-chair) Tripti Sinha (RSSAC co-chair) PRELIMINARY AGENDA FOR RSSAC CAUCUS MEETING 2015-03-22 15:30 - 17:00 in Dallas, TX, USA 1. Opening and welcome. (Liman) 2. A round of deeper introductions of all participants (names, affiliations, background, etc.). (All) 3. Information about the RSSAC restructuring and internal work, including the RSSAC-000 Operational Procedures document. (Liman) 4. Information and discussion of interaction between the formal committee and the caucus. (Tripti) 5. Status and overview of RSSAC-001 "Root server expectations" and its companioning document draft-iab-2870bis-*.txt. (TBD) 6. Status and overview of RSSAC-002 "Root server measurements". (TBD) 7. Status of and discussion about the on-going work on TTL in the root zone (TBD). 8. Brain storming session about future work items. (TBD) 9. Next meeting. (Liman) 10. AOB. (Liman) 11. Adjourn. (Liman)

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[rssac-caucus] Doodle Poll - FY16 Draft Ops Plan & Budget- Kick Off Calls
by Barbara Roseman March 18, 2015

March 18, 2015

Dear Stakeholders and Community members; Per the email below, here is the link to the Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/kytihnvzxapinimb. Please note that the two times that work for the majority of participants will be chosen. Each session will last for approximately one hour, and if you are unable to attend any of the suggested times, the call will be recorded and shared on this mailing list. We will be in contact shortly with times and an agenda. Yours sincerely, Hayley Hayley M. Laframboise Senior Project Coordinator Business Intelligence and Program Management ICANN Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Direct: 1.310.578.8667 Cell: 1.415.630.0245 > > From: "Xavier J. Calvez" <xavier.calvez(a)icann.org> > Date: Monday, March 16, 2015 at 8:18 AM > To: "community-finance(a)icann.org" <community-finance(a)icann.org>, Bart > Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel(a)icann.org>, Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich(a)icann.org>, > Barbara Roseman <barbara.roseman(a)icann.org>, Julie Hedlund > <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org>, Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth(a)icann.org>, Joette > Youkhanna <joette.youkhanna(a)icann.org>, Marika Konings > <marika.konings(a)icann.org> > Cc: "Taryn S. Presley" <taryn.presley(a)icann.org>, Carole Cornell > <carole.cornell(a)icann.org>, Hayley Laframboise <hayley.laframboise(a)icann.org>, > David Olive <david.olive(a)icann.org>, Susanna Bennett > <susanna.bennett(a)icann.org> > Subject: FY16 Budget Draft - Public comment - kick off calls > > Dear Stakeholders and community members, > As per our FY16 Budget calendar, we are about to publishing on March 18th the > FY16 Draft Operating Plan and Budget, 7 weeks earlier than last year! > As usual, we are offering a few kick off calls during which we will review the > draft document published, in order to facilitate your work to review and > comment. We will publish a recording of the kick off sessions for your > convenience, if you would not be able to attend any of the sessions. > A doodle poll will be sent shortly for 2 or 3 sessions to be scheduled over > the course of next week. > Thank you. > Best, > > Xavier > > Xavier Calvez > CFO > ICANN > 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 > Los Angeles, CA 90094 > > Office: +1 (310) 301-5838 > Fax: +1 (310) 957-2348 > Cell: +1 (805) 312-0052 >

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Re: [rssac-caucus] Logistics for RSSAC Caucus Kick off meeting
by Steve Sheng March 18, 2015

March 18, 2015

My sincere apologies. I messed up the time zone. The correct time is: 15:30 - 17:00 Local Dallas Time(CDT, not EDT). In UTC this is 20:30 UTC - 22:00 UTC. Best Steve On 3/18/15, 10:13 AM, "Steve Sheng" <steve.sheng(a)icann.org> wrote: >Dear RSSAC Caucus, > >Here are the logistics information for the RSSAC Caucus Kick off meeting: > >Location: Far East Room, Fairmont Dallas Hotel >Time: 15:30 - 17:00 CDT, Sunday 22 March 2015. > >Remote Participation: US: +1 (866) 780-9216 (other countries see attached) >Participant Passcode: Participant: 2111690 > >Adobe Connect: icann.adobeconnect.com/rssac ><http://icann.adobeconnect.com/rssac> > >Best regards, >Steve > > > >

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