Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting
Alan, I am prepared to participate in a limited duration At-Large WG on new gTLD policy... as long as there is some indication that other members of the ALAC are prepared to get some policy work done -- that means involvement from the ALAC "as a whole" in such an initiative so that folk like Vittorio don't get stuck with all the heavy lifting (as happened previously in the RAA WG). We could use the gnso-liaison mailing list as the place to hold discussions on the current GNSO new gTLD recommendations so that ultimately a set of questions and/or recommendations may emerge (whether they will be directed to the GNSO Councilors or directly to the Board is for the ALAC to decide). Let me know if you have any issues with this approach. regards, Danny ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
At 11/10/2007 11:15 AM, Danny Younger wrote:
Alan,
I am prepared to participate in a limited duration At-Large WG on new gTLD policy... as long as there is some indication that other members of the ALAC are prepared to get some policy work done -- that means involvement from the ALAC "as a whole" in such an initiative so that folk like Vittorio don't get stuck with all the heavy lifting (as happened previously in the RAA WG).
Since the LA meeting is slightly more than two weeks from now, you are suggesting a significant effort. If you think that we can actually get ALAC members (and others) to contribute, I would be delighted. Unfortunately in the past, such efforts have devolved into being a one-person show, thus having far less credibility than they otherwise might.
We could use the gnso-liaison mailing list as the place to hold discussions on the current GNSO new gTLD recommendations so that ultimately a set of questions and/or recommendations may emerge (whether they will be directed to the GNSO Councilors or directly to the Board is for the ALAC to decide).
Regardless of what you or others may think of the process, the GNSO report on gTLDs is already delivered, so directing further comments to the GNSO council has no merit. Directing succinct and supported comments to the Board is QUITE appropriate. As far as I can see gnso-liaison list has only had one message on it (from Nick) and very few subscribers, so there is probably no conflict in using it.
Let me know if you have any issues with this approach.
regards, Danny
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Alan, I am sure that I can get others to participate. When the PDP was first launched we folks on the General Assembly discussion list debated the issues at length and submitted a 35-page report to the Council along with individual statements and individual "papers". Members of the GA also were the bulk of the contributors in the RAA WG. So yes, "others" can be brought on Board. As to whether ALAC members will participate... who knows? Their track record thus far has not exactly been as commendable as one might expect, but I am encouraged by the remarks of the ALAC chair to Patrick, namely "We need input RIGHT NOW on the new gTLD document from the GNSO". Perhaps the ALAC will respond to the admonition from the Chair, and perhaps they will heed the gentle reminders from Roberto that it would be "nice" and "important" to have "some participation providing input in the policy development process". We'll have to see if we will get any ALAC volunteers, or not. A show of hands might be nice... who on the ALAC will commit to a "significant effort" on behalf of the user community? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
We (Consumer Reports WebWatch) have some concerns. We will also be trying to coordinate with other consumer groups to enlist support. We were planning to raise some issues at the workshop itself and make a statement to the board in writing at the same time. We (I) don't find these discussion boards in their current state useful for collaboration, so anybody who wants to e-mail me directly or call, please do. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:47 PM To: Alan Greenberg; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Alan, I am sure that I can get others to participate. When the PDP was first launched we folks on the General Assembly discussion list debated the issues at length and submitted a 35-page report to the Council along with individual statements and individual "papers". Members of the GA also were the bulk of the contributors in the RAA WG. So yes, "others" can be brought on Board. As to whether ALAC members will participate... who knows? Their track record thus far has not exactly been as commendable as one might expect, but I am encouraged by the remarks of the ALAC chair to Patrick, namely "We need input RIGHT NOW on the new gTLD document from the GNSO". Perhaps the ALAC will respond to the admonition from the Chair, and perhaps they will heed the gentle reminders from Roberto that it would be "nice" and "important" to have "some participation providing input in the policy development process". We'll have to see if we will get any ALAC volunteers, or not. A show of hands might be nice... who on the ALAC will commit to a "significant effort" on behalf of the user community? ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann .org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org *** Scanned
HI Danny, Alan I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy. For example, at this time I have serious time limitations based on my ill parents and my new and hopefully temporary role as only caregiver to them (which has actually required me to take leave from my job for the past 5 weeks and from the ALAC for a couple of weeks recently) BUT ALS participation might... if we do a call to all the regions we might get some people interested in this issue to participate. But time is of the essence as we only have 2 weeks. So if this is reasonable to all, I will draft an invitation to the various regions and we can try to set up for a Monday start if we get volunteers. But a 1 or 2 person effort won't make any sense, I agree. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:43 To: Danny Younger; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting At 11/10/2007 11:15 AM, Danny Younger wrote:
Alan,
I am prepared to participate in a limited duration At-Large WG on new gTLD policy... as long as there is some indication that other members of the ALAC are prepared to get some policy work done -- that means involvement from the ALAC "as a whole" in such an initiative so that folk like Vittorio don't get stuck with all the heavy lifting (as happened previously in the RAA WG).
Since the LA meeting is slightly more than two weeks from now, you are suggesting a significant effort. If you think that we can actually get ALAC members (and others) to contribute, I would be delighted. Unfortunately in the past, such efforts have devolved into being a one-person show, thus having far less credibility than they otherwise might.
We could use the gnso-liaison mailing list as the place to hold discussions on the current GNSO new gTLD recommendations so that ultimately a set of questions and/or recommendations may emerge (whether they will be directed to the GNSO Councilors or directly to the Board is for the ALAC to decide).
Regardless of what you or others may think of the process, the GNSO report on gTLDs is already delivered, so directing further comments to the GNSO council has no merit. Directing succinct and supported comments to the Board is QUITE appropriate. As far as I can see gnso-liaison list has only had one message on it (from Nick) and very few subscribers, so there is probably no conflict in using it.
Let me know if you have any issues with this approach.
regards, Danny
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Dear Jacqueline, Thank you for your effort to move this policy development initiative forward. If I may, I would like to propose the following action plan (in conjunction with your call to the ALS community): (1) Timeframe of ad-hoc WG: ends on Thursday 25 Oct. (2) Links to reference documents are provided (3) The 20 GNSO new gTLD recommendations are cited (4) WG members will each draft comments on whatever issues they might have with certain recommendations (5) Initial comments due by 22 October (6) First draft of Final Document (incorporating all comments) by 23 October (7) Final Document by 25 October (8) ALAC reviews WG effort in LA and provides Statement to accompany the Final Document for transmission to the ICANN board. --- "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy. For example, at this time I have serious time limitations based on my ill parents and my new and hopefully temporary role as only caregiver to them (which has actually required me to take leave from my job for the past 5 weeks and from the ALAC for a couple of weeks recently)
BUT ALS participation might... if we do a call to all the regions we might get some people interested in this issue to participate. But time is of the essence as we only have 2 weeks.
So if this is reasonable to all, I will draft an invitation to the various regions and we can try to set up for a Monday start if we get volunteers. But a 1 or 2 person effort won't make any sense, I agree.
Jacqueline
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:43 To: Danny Younger; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting
At 11/10/2007 11:15 AM, Danny Younger wrote:
Alan,
I am prepared to participate in a limited duration At-Large WG on new gTLD policy... as long as there is some indication that other members of the ALAC are prepared to get some policy work done -- that means involvement from the ALAC "as a whole" in such an initiative so that folk like Vittorio don't get stuck with all the heavy lifting (as happened previously in the RAA WG).
Since the LA meeting is slightly more than two weeks from now, you are suggesting a significant effort.
If you think that we can actually get ALAC members (and others) to contribute, I would be delighted. Unfortunately in the past, such efforts have devolved into being a one-person show, thus having far less credibility than they otherwise might.
We could use the gnso-liaison mailing list as the place to hold discussions on the current GNSO new gTLD recommendations so that ultimately a set of questions and/or recommendations may emerge (whether they will be directed to the GNSO Councilors or directly to the Board is for the ALAC to decide).
Regardless of what you or others may think of the process, the GNSO report on gTLDs is already delivered, so directing further comments to the GNSO council has no merit. Directing succinct and supported comments to the Board is QUITE appropriate.
As far as I can see gnso-liaison list has only had one message on it (from Nick) and very few subscribers, so there is probably no conflict in using it.
Let me know if you have any issues with this approach.
regards, Danny
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Sounds good. If you or Alan have links to all the content easily available, send them to me and I will do a wiki page for the wg and then send out an invitation to the regions (and anyone else you think will be interested) Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:14 To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: RE: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Dear Jacqueline, Thank you for your effort to move this policy development initiative forward. If I may, I would like to propose the following action plan (in conjunction with your call to the ALS community): (1) Timeframe of ad-hoc WG: ends on Thursday 25 Oct. (2) Links to reference documents are provided (3) The 20 GNSO new gTLD recommendations are cited (4) WG members will each draft comments on whatever issues they might have with certain recommendations (5) Initial comments due by 22 October (6) First draft of Final Document (incorporating all comments) by 23 October (7) Final Document by 25 October (8) ALAC reviews WG effort in LA and provides Statement to accompany the Final Document for transmission to the ICANN board. --- "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy. For example, at this time I have serious time limitations based on my ill parents and my new and hopefully temporary role as only caregiver to them (which has actually required me to take leave from my job for the past 5 weeks and from the ALAC for a couple of weeks recently)
BUT ALS participation might... if we do a call to all the regions we might get some people interested in this issue to participate. But time is of the essence as we only have 2 weeks.
So if this is reasonable to all, I will draft an invitation to the various regions and we can try to set up for a Monday start if we get volunteers. But a 1 or 2 person effort won't make any sense, I agree.
Jacqueline
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:43 To: Danny Younger; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting
At 11/10/2007 11:15 AM, Danny Younger wrote:
Alan,
I am prepared to participate in a limited duration At-Large WG on new gTLD policy... as long as there is some indication that other members of the ALAC are prepared to get some policy work done -- that means involvement from the ALAC "as a whole" in such an initiative so that folk like Vittorio don't get stuck with all the heavy lifting (as happened previously in the RAA WG).
Since the LA meeting is slightly more than two weeks from now, you are suggesting a significant effort.
If you think that we can actually get ALAC members (and others) to contribute, I would be delighted. Unfortunately in the past, such efforts have devolved into being a one-person show, thus having far less credibility than they otherwise might.
We could use the gnso-liaison mailing list as the place to hold discussions on the current GNSO new gTLD recommendations so that ultimately a set of questions and/or recommendations may emerge (whether they will be directed to the GNSO Councilors or directly to the Board is for the ALAC to decide).
Regardless of what you or others may think of the process, the GNSO report on gTLDs is already delivered, so directing further comments to the GNSO council has no merit. Directing succinct and supported comments to the Board is QUITE appropriate.
As far as I can see gnso-liaison list has only had one message on it (from Nick) and very few subscribers, so there is probably no conflict in using it.
Let me know if you have any issues with this approach.
regards, Danny
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I'm forwarding to the public list from the ALAC internal one this nomination I made today, so that everyone is aware of it. The deadline is the 14th for other nominations, and we are told by Jacqueline Morris, the ALAC chair, that there have been few to no nominations from the ALS community. So we need to hear from you before Monday! The link to the officer elections page and the rules and whatnot is here: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:NGQb_mRA0-0J:https://st.icann.org/page/... or do what I did and go into Google and type: ALAC officer ICANN public list Beau Brendler From: alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 12:28 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com; alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] How to select ALAC Officers? AND ?? delay inlist mail??? I thought the deadline was the 14th. If I only have a couple of hours, then, I see the following in the public document: 7. Other ALAC appointments a. The ALAC may, from time to time: * attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to a given individual; * appoint a given individual as ALAC representative in working groups, task forces, or other committees and bodies different from those to which Liaisons are appointed; * form Committees, attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to them, and appoint their members. So, under Numeral 7, letter (a), sub-paragraph bullet point numbers one and three: I nominate Jonathan Zittrain (bio: http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.cfm?id=3) as Special Adviser to the At-Large Community on Internet Governance Policy for a term of one year. His primary responsibility would be to advise ALAC members, the at-large community and ICANN staff on policy formulation and priority-setting, and two-way communications to the user community. We'd be very lucky to have Jonathan's attention and help. Beau Brendler
That's an easy one. If Jonathan is willing to serve, we should feel fortunate to have his advice and assistance. Thank you for recruiting him, Beau. He would be excellent. -- Bret -- Bret Fausett (skype me at "lextext") smime.p7s is a digital signature http://www.imc.org/smime-pgpmime.html -------------------------------------
Just a small correction to the link given below the only definitive space to look at the ADOPTED copy of the final ROP's for ALAC is on the ALAC Wiki (how you search for it is your choice, but please ensure you use a document .PDF or Word which has a title indicating you are using the rules as adopted... Beau has led you to a very early version I'm afraid... Easiest place in the ALAC Wiki is to follow the link off the home page to the Working Groups page, then select the ALAC Sub- Committee -> Rules of Procedure SC then the file is found via a link at the top of that page (with a full development history provided as well ;-) I've also attached a copy here for easy access... Cheryl (CLO) From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 2:23 AM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Nomination of Jonathan Zittrain I'm forwarding to the public list from the ALAC internal one this nomination I made today, so that everyone is aware of it. The deadline is the 14th for other nominations, and we are told by Jacqueline Morris, the ALAC chair, that there have been few to no nominations from the ALS community. So we need to hear from you before Monday! The link to the officer elections page and the rules and whatnot is here: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:NGQb_mRA0-0J:https://st.icann.org/page/ alac/6_march_2007/attachments/20070303040627-4-27089/ALAC%2520Rules%2520of%2 520Procedure%2520-%2520draft%25201.doc+ICANN+ALAC+officer+public+list <http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:NGQb_mRA0-0J:https://st.icann.org/page /alac/6_march_2007/attachments/20070303040627-4-27089/ALAC%2520Rules%2520of% 2520Procedure%2520-%2520draft%25201.doc+ICANN+ALAC+officer+public+list&hl=en &ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us> &hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us or do what I did and go into Google and type: ALAC officer ICANN public list Beau Brendler From: alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 12:28 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com; alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] How to select ALAC Officers? AND ?? delay inlist mail??? I thought the deadline was the 14th. If I only have a couple of hours, then, I see the following in the public document: 7. Other ALAC appointments a. The ALAC may, from time to time: * attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to a given individual; * appoint a given individual as ALAC representative in working groups, task forces, or other committees and bodies different from those to which Liaisons are appointed; * form Committees, attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to them, and appoint their members. So, under Numeral 7, letter (a), sub-paragraph bullet point numbers one and three: I nominate Jonathan Zittrain (bio: http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.cfm?id=3) as Special Adviser to the At-Large Community on Internet Governance Policy for a term of one year. His primary responsibility would be to advise ALAC members, the at-large community and ICANN staff on policy formulation and priority-setting, and two-way communications to the user community. We'd be very lucky to have Jonathan's attention and help. Beau Brendler
Cheryl, Hi. Did you discuss and adopt the new rules and procedures on the last ALAC call, Oct 9? <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?rules_of_procedure_working_group> The document linked and you sent to the list is now adopted and operational, is that correct? Thanks, Adam At 8:39 AM +1000 10/13/07, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
Just a small correction to the link given below the only definitive space to look at the ADOPTED copy of the final ROP¹s for ALAC is on the ALAC Wiki (how you search for it is your choice, but please ensure you use a document .PDF or Word which has a title indicating you are using the rules as adopted... Beau has led you to a very early version I¹m afraid...
Easiest place in the ALAC Wiki is to follow the link off the home page to the Working Groups page, then select the ALAC Sub- Committee > Rules of Procedure SC then the file is found via a link at the top of that page (with a full development history provided as well ;-)
I¹ve also attached a copy here for easy access...
Cheryl (CLO)
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 2:23 AM To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: [At-Large] Nomination of Jonathan Zittrain
I'm forwarding to the public list from the ALAC internal one this nomination I made today, so that everyone is aware of it. The deadline is the 14th for other nominations, and we are told by Jacqueline Morris, the ALAC chair, that there have been few to no nominations from the ALS community. So we need to hear from you before Monday!
The link to the officer elections page and the rules and whatnot is here:
or do what I did and go into Google and type: ALAC officer ICANN public list
Beau Brendler
From: alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 12:28 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com; alac-internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] How to select ALAC Officers? AND ?? delay inlist mail???
I thought the deadline was the 14th. If I only have a couple of hours, then, I see the following in the public document:
7. Other ALAC appointments
a. The ALAC may, from time to time:
attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to a given individual; appoint a given individual as ALAC representative in working groups, task forces, or other committees and bodies different from those to which Liaisons are appointed; form Committees, attribute specific tasks or responsibilities to them, and appoint their members. So, under Numeral 7, letter (a), sub-paragraph bullet point numbers one and three: I nominate Jonathan Zittrain (bio: </exchweb/bin/redir.asp,DanaInfo=CUEXCHANGE03+?URL=http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.cfm?id=3>http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.cfm?id=3) as Special Adviser to the At-Large Community on Internet Governance Policy for a term of one year. His primary responsibility would be to advise ALAC members, the at-large community and ICANN staff on policy formulation and priority-setting, and two-way communications to the user community. We'd be very lucky to have Jonathan's attention and help.
Beau Brendler
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Knowing some of the key academics involved in internet governance / ICANN discussions, i'd suggest looking at the ALS pool and see who is available. Personally, i'd prefer someone who has been following ICANN longer and has a more collaborative and constructive view. If a nominations are still open, let me suggest an alternate candidate - that being Wolfgang Kleinwachter Wolfgang Kleinwachter - Bio http://www.net-gov.org/wgig/kleinwaechter.php regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 12-Oct-07, at 2:23 PM, Brendler, Beau wrote:
I'm forwarding to the public list from the ALAC internal one this nomination I made today, so that everyone is aware of it. The deadline is the 14th for other nominations, and we are told by Jacqueline Morris, the ALAC chair, that there have been few to no nominations from the ALS community. So we need to hear from you before Monday!
Since we haven't agreed to have this particular advisory position yet, we aren't ready for electioneering. In the meantime, how about nominations of ALS members and other ALAC outsiders for the positions that we DO have open? We have one person nominated for 2 positions unopposed, we have most of the other positions unopposed, and WhoIs is empty still I think, not sure how many others are still unfilled. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 08:33 To: At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] Nomination of Wolfgang Kleinwachter Knowing some of the key academics involved in internet governance / ICANN discussions, i'd suggest looking at the ALS pool and see who is available. Personally, i'd prefer someone who has been following ICANN longer and has a more collaborative and constructive view. If a nominations are still open, let me suggest an alternate candidate - that being Wolfgang Kleinwachter Wolfgang Kleinwachter - Bio http://www.net-gov.org/wgig/kleinwaechter.php regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 12-Oct-07, at 2:23 PM, Brendler, Beau wrote:
I'm forwarding to the public list from the ALAC internal one this nomination I made today, so that everyone is aware of it. The deadline is the 14th for other nominations, and we are told by Jacqueline Morris, the ALAC chair, that there have been few to no nominations from the ALS community. So we need to hear from you before Monday!
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Jacqueline A. Morris ha scritto:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy.
Hi, I don't want to sound rude, but I do have to post a call to order - if the members of the ALAC are so busy that they cannot devote any time to the single most important policy issue of the next few months, what do we have an ALAC for? Perhaps it's just a matter of getting priorities right. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
Danny has taken the initiative to round up some members of the ALAC and I have offered to help him. I think he and this group will be waiting for word on an open list we can use to do a focused, two-week effort to produce something worthwhile that can be presented to the board in order to get the GNSO to reconsider some things in the current document. He suggested that we go into Los Angeles with this in hand rather than wait (as I was thinking of doing) until the actual workshop. So, Jacqueline, issuing a call to order might be an excellent idea, along with the appropriate location of a group list that people can use. ________________________________ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Vittorio Bertola Sent: Fri 10/12/2007 10:35 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide'; 'Danny Younger' Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Jacqueline A. Morris ha scritto:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy.
Hi, I don't want to sound rude, but I do have to post a call to order - if the members of the ALAC are so busy that they cannot devote any time to the single most important policy issue of the next few months, what do we have an ALAC for? Perhaps it's just a matter of getting priorities right. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org *** Scanned
Alan suggested the use of the gnso liaison list, and that’s good by me. Below find a rough draft of an invitation (Dev from the TTCS in Trinidad wrote it) – let me know if there’s anything we should add. Jacqueline The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) has released a summary of the report on the Introduction of new top level domains for the At-Large community's consideration and use at the GNSO's New gTLD Workshop at the ICANN Los Angeles meeting on Monday, 29 October 2007. This document is meant to provide a concise and easy to read summary of the key elements of the Report, and is organized to correspond with the Workshop sessions. At-Large participants (such as the TTCS) are encouraged to consider the summary, and the Report, and submit questions in advance that they would like the Workshop panelists to address on the 29th. The At Large has determined to create a short term working group to discuss and generate comments for input into the process and transmission to the Board of ICANN. The Working Group will work via a mailing list, and interested persons can subscribe to this list at HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-liaison_atlarge-lists. icann.org"http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-liaison_atlar ge-lists.icann.org The timeframe for the working group is short, with a deadline of October 25th. A suggested work plan drawn up by a member of the WG is below. You can see that the work will be intense, but it is very important. 1) Timeframe of ad-hoc WG: ends on Thursday 25 Oct. (2) Links to reference documents are provided (3) The 20 GNSO new gTLD recommendations are cited (4) WG members will each draft comments on whatever issues they might have with certain recommendations (5) Initial comments due by 22 October (6) First draft of Final Document (incorporating all comments) by 23 October (7) Final Document by 25 October (8) ALAC reviews WG effort in LA and provides Statement to accompany the Final Document for transmission to the ICANN board. I hope that you will participate as this is a very important issue, with serious ramifications for the future direction of the Internet, and vitally important to individual users. Below please find links to the relevant documents related to the Introduction of New Top Level Domains. We will also shortly be creating a wiki workspace for the working group, but in the meantime, you can find information on the GNSO Liaison wiki page at HYPERLINK "https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?gnso_liaison"https://st.icann.org/alac/ index.cgi?gnso_liaison. The summary of the report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains : HYPERLINK "http://ttcsweb.pbwiki.com/f/New+gtlds+workshop+document.pdf"http://ttcsweb. pbwiki.com/f/New+gtlds+workshop+document.pdf (PDF ; 191K) The Actual Report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains is available in two parts : Part A - HYPERLINK "http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm"http: //gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm Part B - HYPERLINK "http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-partb-01aug07.htm"http: //gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-partb-01aug07.htm From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 To: Vittorio Bertola; jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: At-Large Worldwide; Danny Younger Subject: RE: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Danny has taken the initiative to round up some members of the ALAC and I have offered to help him. I think he and this group will be waiting for word on an open list we can use to do a focused, two-week effort to produce something worthwhile that can be presented to the board in order to get the GNSO to reconsider some things in the current document. He suggested that we go into Los Angeles with this in hand rather than wait (as I was thinking of doing) until the actual workshop. So, Jacqueline, issuing a call to order might be an excellent idea, along with the appropriate location of a group list that people can use. _____ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Vittorio Bertola Sent: Fri 10/12/2007 10:35 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide'; 'Danny Younger' Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Jacqueline A. Morris ha scritto:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy.
Hi, I don't want to sound rude, but I do have to post a call to order - if the members of the ALAC are so busy that they cannot devote any time to the single most important policy issue of the next few months, what do we have an ALAC for? Perhaps it's just a matter of getting priorities right. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at HYPERLINK "http://bertola.eu/"http://bertola.eu/ <-------- _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.or g"http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.o rg At-Large Official Site: HYPERLINK "http://www.alac.icann.org"http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannalac.org"http://www.icannalac.org *** Scanned No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 15:09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 15:09
Jacqueline, I would add a link to the recent set of public comments submitted by the community (to give the ALSs and ALAC members a sense of what some of the issues are): http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtldfinalreport-2007/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Needless to say, anything you need me to do I'll make the time for - teleconferences, etc - just let me know. I am working on translations of the summary document in time for LA - French and Spanish. On 12 Oct 2007, at 18:53, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Alan suggested the use of the gnso liaison list, and that’s good by me.
Below find a rough draft of an invitation (Dev from the TTCS in Trinidad wrote it) – let me know if there’s anything we should add.
Jacqueline
The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) has released a summary of the report on the Introduction of new top level domains for the At-Large community's consideration and use at the GNSO's New gTLD Workshop at the ICANN Los Angeles meeting on Monday, 29 October 2007.
This document is meant to provide a concise and easy to read summary of the key elements of the Report, and is organized to correspond with the Workshop sessions. At-Large participants (such as the TTCS) are encouraged to consider the summary, and the Report, and submit questions in advance that they would like the Workshop panelists to address on the 29th.
The At Large has determined to create a short term working group to discuss and generate comments for input into the process and transmission to the Board of ICANN. The Working Group will work via a mailing list, and interested persons can subscribe to this list at
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso- liaison_atlarge-lists.icann.org
The timeframe for the working group is short, with a deadline of October 25th. A suggested work plan drawn up by a member of the WG is below. You can see that the work will be intense, but it is very important.
1) Timeframe of ad-hoc WG: ends on Thursday 25 Oct.
(2) Links to reference documents are provided
(3) The 20 GNSO new gTLD recommendations are cited
(4) WG members will each draft comments on whatever issues they might have with certain recommendations
(5) Initial comments due by 22 October
(6) First draft of Final Document (incorporating all comments) by 23 October
(7) Final Document by 25 October
(8) ALAC reviews WG effort in LA and provides Statement to accompany the Final Document for transmission to the ICANN board.
I hope that you will participate as this is a very important issue, with serious ramifications for the future direction of the Internet, and vitally important to individual users.
Below please find links to the relevant documents related to the Introduction of New Top Level Domains. We will also shortly be creating a wiki workspace for the working group, but in the meantime, you can find information on the GNSO Liaison wiki page at https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?gnso_liaison.
The summary of the report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains : http://ttcsweb.pbwiki.com/f/New+gtlds+workshop+document.pdf (PDF ; 191K)
The Actual Report on the Introduction of new Top Level Domains is available in two parts :
Part A - http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm
Part B - http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-partb-01aug07.htm
From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:38 To: Vittorio Bertola; jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: At-Large Worldwide; Danny Younger Subject: RE: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting
Danny has taken the initiative to round up some members of the ALAC and I have offered to help him. I think he and this group will be waiting for word on an open list we can use to do a focused, two- week effort to produce something worthwhile that can be presented to the board in order to get the GNSO to reconsider some things in the current document. He suggested that we go into Los Angeles with this in hand rather than wait (as I was thinking of doing) until the actual workshop.
So, Jacqueline, issuing a call to order might be an excellent idea, along with the appropriate location of a group list that people can use.
From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Vittorio Bertola Sent: Fri 10/12/2007 10:35 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'At-Large Worldwide'; 'Danny Younger' Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting
Jacqueline A. Morris ha scritto:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy.
Hi, I don't want to sound rude, but I do have to post a call to order - if the members of the ALAC are so busy that they cannot devote any time to the single most important policy issue of the next few months, what do we have an ALAC for?
Perhaps it's just a matter of getting priorities right.
Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
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Hi Vittorio if we want the policy work to come off, the people who are interested and motivated, wherever in the At Large they are, have to be the ones to get it done. Waiting on a small group is not a good idea if something is to be done. That does not mean that the current ALAC members are not going to participate, but they may not, especially as many of them are working on other areas, especially IDNs, and should the entire community lose out on the opportunity if they can't participate? I much prefer empowerment of the At Large (esp in policy issues) rather than have people waiting for the ALAC to tell them what to do! Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb@bertola.eu] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:36 To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Danny Younger'; 'At-Large Worldwide' Subject: Re: [At-Large] Summary for New gTLDs Workshop at ICANN LA Meeting Jacqueline A. Morris ha scritto:
HI Danny, Alan
I am not sure that basing the proposed WG on substantial ALAC member participation will work, as many ALAC members seem to be really busy.
Hi, I don't want to sound rude, but I do have to post a call to order - if the members of the ALAC are so busy that they cannot devote any time to the single most important policy issue of the next few months, what do we have an ALAC for? Perhaps it's just a matter of getting priorities right. Ciao, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 15:09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 15:09
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Adam Peake -
Alan Greenberg -
Brendler, Beau -
Bret Fausett -
Cheryl Langdon-Orr -
Danny Younger -
Jacqueline A. Morris -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
Robert Guerra -
Vittorio Bertola