July 2013 - capacity-building-wg

DOODLE/ First At-Large Capacity Building Working Group
by At-Large Staff July 9, 2013

July 9, 2013

Dear All, Please complete the attached Doodle poll to schedule the first call of the At-Large Capacity Building Working Group. http://doodle.com/24rw2yn7agsp8fr4 Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Capacity+Building+Worki ng+Group Thank you. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org One World, One Internet

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Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
by Maureen Hilyard July 2, 2013

July 2, 2013

Thank you Heidi The CB team will be well represented at this initial meeting and I am sure the WG will take advantage of being able to meet Nora in Durban. Maureen Maureen Hilyard, Cook Islands - Samsung Mobile Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich(a)icann.org> wrote: >Dear All, > >Just to let you know that two members of the Capacity Building WG, Dev and Tijani, are attending this informal call. The idea was that they would be able to report back to the group. > >Also, currently Nora and Chris are scheduled to speak during the ALAC and Regional Leaders Working Session as well to the Academy WG in Durban. However, they are not currently scheduled to speak to the Capacity Building WG in Durban. Would the WG like to invite them? > >Kind regards, >Heidi > >-----Original Message----- >From: capacity-building-wg-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:capacity-building-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro >Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:17 PM >To: Satish Babu >Cc: Gisella Gruber; At-Large Capacity Building WG >Subject: Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta > >Those who are eligible to attend from the online group are: > >Chubasco >Natalia >Chaitanya >Maureen >Ali >Dev > >Only one of these can attend, since Chaitanya has bowed out, that leaves 5. I would suggest discussing it amongst yourselves and confirming the name ASAP to Gisella. > >Kind Regards, >Sala > >Sent from my iPad > >On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Satish Babu <director(a)icfoss.in> wrote: > >> I'd also like to leave the opportunity to someone else. >> >> >> >> satish >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar >> <chaitanyabd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Given the circumstances, I will abstain from the meeting. >>> >>> -C >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Maureen, >>>> >>>> This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. >>>> If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other >>>> constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is >>>> merely an informal call with Nora. >>>> >>>> Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it >>>> would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this >>>> call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting >>>> numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, >>>> so we will all get to meet and talk to her. >>>> >>>> The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and >>>> nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you >>>> select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that >>>> they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list. >>>> >>>> The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of >>>> course take into consideration that which the constituencies think >>>> should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group >>>> and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Sala >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" >>>> <hilyard(a)oyster.net.ck> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Gisella >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building >>>> Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in >>>> attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending >>>> the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her >>>> personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and >>>> I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person >>>> attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear >>>> the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they >>>> can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and >>>> then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora >>>> on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to >>>> block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that >>>> others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> M >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> capacity-building-wg mailing list >>>> capacity-building-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg >>>> >>> > >_______________________________________________ >capacity-building-wg mailing list >capacity-building-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg > >_______________________________________________ >capacity-building-wg mailing list >capacity-building-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg

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Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro July 1, 2013

July 1, 2013

Dear Maureen, This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora. Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her. The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list. The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard(a)oyster.net.ck> wrote: > Hi Gisella > > I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta. > > Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning. > > At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment. > > I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki. > > M

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Fwd: DOODLE - ICANN Online Education Platform
by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro July 1, 2013

July 1, 2013

FYI and FYR Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich(a)icann.org> > Date: July 1, 2013, 10:50:39 AM GMT+12:00 > To: sandra hoferichter <info(a)hoferichter.eu> > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>, Sylvia Herlein Leite <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org>, José Francisco Arce <josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro(a)gmail.com>, Tijani Ben Jemaa <tijani.benjemaa(a)planet.tn>, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com>, Chris Gift <chris.gift(a)icann.org>, Nora Abusitta <nora.abusitta(a)icann.org> > Subject: Re: DOODLE - ICANN Online Education Platform > > Hi All, > > This is meant to be strictly an informal call and should not have been forwarded to the capacity building WG list. Could whoever forwarded the invitation please send apologies to the list? > > Nora will be speaking with us several times in Durban. > > Thanks, > Heidi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 30, 2013, at 3:35 PM, "sandra hoferichter" <info(a)hoferichter.eu> wrote: > >> Dear all, I am a bit irritated. In the invitation to this call, sent to a limited number of people, it is stated that: "you have been selected to participate in this informal call". It was not sent to a WG mailing list in order to gather huge participation from the WGs dealing with this issue. >> >> As far as I understood the call was meant to provide Nora an update on activities and status. The broader community discussion, to my understanding, should have been held during the WG meetings in Durban. Now that the doodle was forwarded to the At-Large Capacity Building mailing list we have quite a lot of members participating in this call and I wonder if the scope of the call has changed now? >> >> On another note, if the scope has changed and we are organising a community call, it would be just fair to invite also other community members from other WGs (like the ICANN Academy WG), because this issue does not only concern At-Large. >> >> My personal opinion is that it would makes sense to have a discussion with a hand full of people first and broaden the discussion with the community in Durban during the respective meetings. But I am not sure it this is still possible, now that a number of WG members confirmed their availability. >> >> Best Sandra >> >> (Note: This message was send from my iPhone - I do apologise for any misspelling.) >> >> Am 27.06.2013 um 00:20 schrieb At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>: >> >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> We would like to invite you to an informal call with Nora Abusitta, VP of Public Responsibility Programs, to discuss the next steps in the ICANN Online Education Platform. Nora will be leading the development of this program from the staff side. Nora will be speaking with the At-Large community in Durban and would like to take this opportunity to introduce herself and to discuss the status of the program. We would also like to hear your groups’ needs and your views on the next steps for the At-Large community. >>> >>> As you are involved in Working Groups or other activities that will or will potentially benefit from the Online Education Platform, you have been selected to participate in this informal call. >>> >>> Please complete the attached Doodle poll to identify the most suitable time for everyone. >>> >>> http://www.doodle.com/f44qpy53sznwv63f >>> >>> Thank you! >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen >>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >>> E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >>> >>> One World, One Internet

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Re: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta
by Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro July 1, 2013

July 1, 2013

Hi Maureen, If I had my way, I would have wanted all the Online Group members on the informal call. Please note that an informal call is different from a formal ICANN meeting. As mentioned earlier, there will be lots of opportunity for the At Large community to talk to Nora. The Durban meetings will be open to remote participation so you will have your opportunity to talk to her and ask questions remotely. Besides, Nora is staff so we always will have the opportunity for scheduling a call with the WG at later stage. For now, I would recommend that the wiki be used to tease out useful considerations for the online developments etc. Your apology is noted. Kind Regards, Sala Sent from my iPad On Jul 1, 2013, at 5:27 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard(a)oyster.net.ck> wrote: > Hi Sala > > I know you were only doing what was asked, and it is us who have put the cat among the pigeons. I apologise for my part in this. > > BUT.. it is not as if an Adobe Connect meeting with however many people joining into just listening to what Nora has to say, has any chance of becoming a “free for all”. The administrators can unplug all the speakers so no one can butt in… there are ways and means.. but surely an “informal” gathering does not mean that people have to be excluded – and for what good reason? It is extremely rare that an ICANN meeting is closed to observers.. this is so un-ICANN. > > What is the point of introducing someone like Nora in her role to do with capacity building, and NOT include the volunteers who have opted for this working group. It is not a large group of people we are talking about here. Some of us are going to Durban and some of us aren’t. I’m one of the NOTs. But it would be nice for all of us to hear the same message before the Durban meeting. And its all about capacity building at all levels of ICANN.. surely. > > But, maybe it’s just me! > > M > > From: Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro [mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2013 6:32 p.m. > To: Maureen Hilyard > Cc: Gisella Gruber-White; Siranush Vardanyan; Yaovi Atohoun; <erik(a)huesca.mx>; <devtee(a)gmail.com>; <ronojinx(a)gmail.com>; Satish Babu; Ali AlMeshal; <natalia.enciso(a)gmail.com>; At-Large Capacity Building WG > Subject: Re: Capacity Building WG session with Nora Abusitta > > Dear Maureen, > > This is not an attempt to be unfair and are instructions from staff. If it were open to all those in our Working Group, other constituencies would have cried foul at not being involved. This is merely an informal call with Nora. > > Traditionally, the invitation was sent to me but I thought that it would be good to have someone from the Online Team. Attending this call is not a "right" but a privilege. Nora will be presenting numerous times to the At Large Team as well as other constituencies, so we will all get to meet and talk to her. > > The decision to keep this call "small" is Staff's decision and nothing to do with the steering committee's decision. Whomever you select from amongst you to attend this call, should be sure that they will attend this informal call and report back to the Group both on the wiki and the mailing list. > > The group can trust that anything that Nora is planning will of course take into consideration that which the constituencies think should be considered which is why Inwould encourage the Online Group and other grouos at this stage to get to work on your wiki space etc. > > Kind Regards, > Sala > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 1, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard(a)oyster.net.ck> wrote: > > Hi Gisella > > I believe that only one representative from the Capacity Building Online Education group has been invited to attend the meeting with Nora Abusitta. > > Personally I think this is unfair. We are all interested in attending, and have indicated our interest. I will not be attending the Durban meeting so I won’t have another chance to hear her personally and to ask her any questions directly before Durban – and I’d like to hear what Nora’s role is and what she is planning. > > At the same time, I don’t think that it should just be one person attending. We all opted to be a part of this group and should hear the same message. If any of the group are going to Durban, then they can take any queries from the rest of the team along with them, and then feed back to us.. It would be good to be able to work WITH Nora on this.. because we are at a bit of a stand-still at the moment. > > I am expressing my own personal view on what I feel is an attempt to block participation. It is not normal ICANN practice. I am sure that others will also have a view on this. I will add this note to the wiki. > > M

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