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Re: [CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re: PIR
by Alan Greenberg May 4, 2020

May 4, 2020

David, I'm not going to comment on the substance of the PIR discussion here, although I largely agree with Greg. But I will comment on the processes at Large uses to address consensus. To a great extent, on most issues, there has been little dissent within At-Large on policy issues (there is at times disagreement on how At-Large or more likely parts of it govern themselves, but that is a different issue for a different time). Despite the widely ranging variation on circumstances, the underlying issues that impact end users (other than access and connectivity which are different but outside of ICANN's remit) are very similar. But on occasion, there are various differing opinions on a particular issue. Sometimes discussion addresses this and we end up with the vast majority of a single mind (the ALS-Mobilization-WP discussions on whether there was a conflict with people or ALSes holding multiple positions within ICANN was one such example). Very occasionally, we are divided and stay that way. There are two outcomes with regard to formal statements made by the ALAC on behalf of At-Large. a) We decide that we must make a statement, but provide both sides/positions with some idea of split proportions. b) We decide not to comment because we are not really in a position to speak on behalf of our divided community and that presenting the division would not really be helpful. Although the ALAC itself at times votes and technically we decide most issues by a majority, I cannot recall a time where that vote was close (on policy issues) and we presented only the "winning" position. Consensus rules the day in most cases, and our rule of thumb is 80% must agree for a consensus to be declared. Perhaps we need to get better at this, or be more precise, but these rules and processes have generally been acceptable for quite some number of years. Alan At 2020-05-03 03:35 PM, David Mackey wrote: >It's hard to see the words "There is mounting concern that ICANN is >no longer responsive to the needs of its stakeholders." as being >positive for ICANN without thoughtful reflection. > >It also seems that the position of the California Attorney General >aligns better with the dissent voiced in the At-Large CPWG email >thread discussions, rather than the advice that was eventually given >to the board. > >The final .ORG decision may over, but I hope there's opportunity for >a discussion on how to improve the At-Large consensus process. > >It appears the dissent voices raised in this email group did, in >fact, have merit and were not easily dismissed outside the At-Large >community as being merely "passionate". > >It might be a good idea to see how we as a community can better >encapsulate dissent and non-consensus into our process. > > >On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:45 AM Matthias M. Hudobnik ><<mailto:matthias@hudobnik.at>matthias(a)hudobnik.at> wrote: > >Well said Jonathan! > > > >Have a nice day! > >Best, > >M. > > > >_________________________ > >Ing. Mag. Matthias M. Hudobnik > ><mailto:matthias@hudobnik.at>matthias(a)hudobnik.at > >http://www.hudobnik.at > > > >Von: CPWG [mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Jonathan Zuck >Gesendet: Samstag, 18. April 2020 09:49 >An: Maureen Hilyard; Dev Anand Teelucksingh >Cc: CPWG >Betreff: Re: [CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re: PIR > > > >Interesting indeed. I would stress, however, that it might have >much to do with our brand (as the sympathetic voice of end users) as >it did with our content. Persistence of Perspective! > > > >From: CPWG <<mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org>cpwg-bounces(a)icann.org> >on behalf of Maureen Hilyard ><<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> >Date: Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:53 PM >To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>devtee(a)gmail.com> >Cc: CPWG <<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>cpwg(a)icann.org> >Subject: Re: [CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re: PIR > > > >Interesting that it was our almost two pages of practical advice >from the ALAC that gained the attention of the AG to use as a lash >on ICANN than the letters to the Board from the ASO and NCSG. > > > >M > > > >On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh ><<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>devtee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Indeed, interesting and noteworthy to point out that ALAC statements >do have impact. > >Its a pity because the PDF of the ALAC statement is on the wiki, the link is ><https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+ISO…>https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+ISO… > > > >Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:44 PM Marita Moll ><<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>mmoll(a)ca.inter.net> wrote: > >Wow, quite a slap down by the AG of California. ALAC advice re: this >issue referenced as reasons for concern. > >Marita > >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list ><mailto:CPWG@icann.org>CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > >_______________________________________________ >By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy>https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) >and the website Terms of Service >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos>https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) >You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership >status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting >digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a >vacation), and so on. > >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list ><mailto:CPWG@icann.org>CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > >_______________________________________________ >By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy>https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) >and the website Terms of Service >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos>https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) >You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership >status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting >digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a >vacation), and so on. > >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list ><mailto:CPWG@icann.org>CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > >_______________________________________________ >By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy>https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) >and the website Terms of Service >(<https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos>https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) >You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership >status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting >digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a >vacation), and so on. > >_______________________________________________ >CPWG mailing list >CPWG(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg > >_______________________________________________ >By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy >(https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the >Mailman link above to change your membership status or >configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style >delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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deadline for RPM submission
by Marita Moll May 4, 2020

May 4, 2020

I am asked to let you know that we will need any feedback by21:00 UTC today (May 4) The Public Comment closes at 23:59 UTC today. Marita

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RPM -- 2 further questions
by Marita Moll May 4, 2020

May 4, 2020

Further to the previous e-mail, here are two other issues that appeared on several slides. Slide #7 URS Recommendation #6 -- The Working Group recommends that a uniform set of educational materials be developed to provide guidance for URS parties, practitioners, and examiners on what is needed to meet the “clear and convincing burden of proof" in a URS proceeding *Question to CPWG: Who should bear the cost of these materials. Should this be URS * ** *providers? Who has the most to gain from * ** *this? Who will be neutral.* ** ** Slide 18 - Sunrise service community question #5c Do you have suggestions on how to enable trademark holders who use non-English scripts/languages to effectively participate in Sunrise *Question to CPWG: Should we try to provide some answer * ** *to this question 5(c), consistent with principles of support* Thanks Marita **

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Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: [Ext] Compilation of GAC input on Draft Recommendations of GNSO SubPro PDP WG on future New gTLDs
by mail＠christopherwilkinson.eu CW May 4, 2020

May 4, 2020

FYI - CW -------- Mensaje original ---------- De: Emily Barabas <emily.barabas(a)icann.org> Para: "gnso-newgtld-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-newgtld-wg(a)icann.org> Fecha: 4 de mayo de 2020 a las 12:21 Asunto: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: [Ext] Compilation of GAC input on Draft Recommendations of GNSO SubPro PDP WG on future New gTLDs Please see below. From: Manal Ismail <manal(a)tra.gov.eg> Date: Monday, 4 May 2020 at 12:06 To: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr(a)gmail.com>, Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman(a)comlaude.com> Cc: Steve Chan <steve.chan(a)icann.org>, Emily Barabas <emily.barabas(a)icann.org>, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org>, "GACSTAFF (gac-staff(a)icann.org) (gac-staff(a)icann.org)" <gac-staff(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Compilation of GAC input on Draft Recommendations of GNSO SubPro PDP WG on future New gTLDs [cc’ing GNSO support staff to kindly forward to the SubPro PDP WG mailing list] Dear Cheryl and Jeff, I hope this email finds you well. As noted during ICANN67, following the focus on priority topics to the GAC on Subsequent Rounds of new gTLDs being discussed within the SubPro PDP WG, GAC members were asked to provide input on PDP WG draft recommendations available to date (attached – as of March 27th 2020) and answered three specific questions on each of the following topics: 1. GAC Advice and GAC Early Warnings 2. Public Commitments (PICs) 3. Applicant Support Program 4. Community Applications 5. Closed Generics Please note this input is not GAC consensus advice as specified in the compilation document but individual input from GAC Members and Observers on current draft final recommendations. For your reference, please find attached: * The compilation document with input received from 23 GAC members and observers on the five topics mentioned above, via three specific questions on each topic; * The GAC written consultation document originally submitted to GAC members for your reference, which includes: o Prior GAC positions; o Draft final recommendations from the SubPro PDP; o Questions to GAC members on each topic The GAC welcomes any further engagement with SubPro PDP WG Leadership on the input provided, and on ongoing recommendations being drafted. Many thanks for your continuous cooperation and engagement with the GAC. Kind Regards, --Manal

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Sale of .ORG REJECTED
by Evan Leibovitch May 1, 2020

May 1, 2020

https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-board-withholds-consent-for-a-change-… -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch or @el56

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Revised statement on the EPDP Report Addendum
by Alan Greenberg May 1, 2020

May 1, 2020

See https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=126430910 A revised statement is now posted including the changes I proposed on 27 April (in red), and those added since by both Hadia and me (in blue). All of these changes were discussed during the CPWG meeting on Wednesday, 29 April 2020. The unusual number of last minute changes are due to discussions with other groups within the EPDP, ensuring that the ALAC statement is as complete as possible. Virtually everything that is in this statement agrees with and is supported by previous statements of the ALAC. For those who wish to see the legal memos mentioned in the statement: <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126430910/Anon-Email-Memo%…>The Bird & Bird memo on Legal/Natural <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126430910/ICANN%20accuracy…>The Bird & Bird memo of 09 April Alan

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Fwd: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice
by Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond April 30, 2020

April 30, 2020

Dear Colleagues, you might be interested to read the advice below that was sent by the ISOC Chapter Advisory Council Chair to the ISOC Board of Trustees. Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos Capital <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q>is particularly pertinent in the context of the ICANN decision to be made in regards to the sale of the Public Interest Registry, PIR. As ISOC does not appear to have the same transparency when it comes to the correspondence it receives as ICANN does, the Statement does not appear on any ISOC sanctioned Web site. Should the ICANN Board be made aware of this advice from Chapters in a formal way or should Chapters inform the ICANN Board directly themselves? I am mindful of not mixing Chapters & ALSes. Kindest regards, Olivier -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:26:48 -0400 From: Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org> Reply-To: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera(a)gmail.com> To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo(a)ericsson.com>, Kevin Craemer <Craemer(a)isoc.org> CC: Chapters AC Elist <ChaptersAC-SC(a)elists.isoc.org>, Chapter Delegates <Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org>, INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil(a)connectedcommunity.org, INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaders(a)connectedcommunity.org Distinguished Members of the Board: The Chapter Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC) is submitting the following advice for your consideration: 1. Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos Capital <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q> * *Advice*: /“We reiterate that the sale of PIR to Ethos Capital should not proceed until, unless proscribed by law, the following conditions are met, and the ISOC Board has taken into account the comments received after the information requested below is made public”/ * Text link: ( <goog_419103278>https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q) * Approved by 68% of the 73 chapters that participated 2. Advice 2020.04.17-02 :: Second Advice on <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim> ISOC Constituencies Consultation <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim> * *Advice*: /“Initiate a process to change the ISOC Bylaws so that the current communities that elect Trustees (that is, the Organizational Members, the Chapters, and the IETF) are considered as constituencies and so that they must be consulted prior to any major financial and strategically significant operational decisions being taken ”/ * Text link: (https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim) * Approved by 89% of the 73 chapters that participated 3. Advice 2020-04-17-03 ::Second Advice on Bylaws Changes <https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8> * *Advice*: /“We reiterate that the Board charters a small group comprised of members of the Board and members of the Advisory Committees (ACs) to consider possible changes to ISOC’s Bylaws that would strengthen the roles of the ACs in general and the Chapters in particular.”/ * Text link: (https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8) * Approved by 90% of the 73 chapters that participated A total of 73 chapters (68% of 107 with assigned delegates or 58% of 126 active) participated in the vote call during the period 21 April 2020 to 28 April 2020, inclusive. The vote was quorate by 384% (73/19). A detailed list of the chapters that voted can be found in the following link: https://isoc.box.com/s/ct67lgxxf8e4mermrrijw0yz0cg5ngj1 and vote results in the following one: https://isoc.box.com/s/e4o3osfys4xmn1a8exva7nxvyvij4i5z. The actual vote was anonymous. Please note that all advices are based on information available as of 10 April 2020. Thank you for the opportunity to work with you to make ISOC a better organization. Eduardo Díaz Chair ChAC-SC cc: Full ChAC, ChAC-SC, Chapter Delegates, Chapter Leaders

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Fwd: [ccwg-internet-governance] UN OEWG developments - chair's letter 27 April 2020
by Judith Hellerstein April 30, 2020

April 30, 2020

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At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call
by ICANN Policy Calendar April 30, 2020

April 30, 2020

***If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 06 May 2020 at 13:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/y9u3lyt3 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/vYrsBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=TnhSZEhEMDlibzNsS2Y0OWFQQk9Ldz09 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 �C Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Passcode: 2345 Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 FR: 1838 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann [adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.adigo.com_icann&d=…> At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 06 May 2020 at 13:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff April 30, 2020

April 30, 2020

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