November 2021 - Gnso-epdp-idn-team

Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 13:30 UTC
by Julie Bisland 15 Nov '21

15 Nov '21

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 18 November 2021 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior [icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/hwO7Cg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/ekdp76rh ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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Canceled: IDNs EPDP Team meeting
by ICANN Policy Calendar 15 Nov '21

15 Nov '21

Cancelled ONLY 25 November 2021 due to US Holiday Meeting: IDNs EPDP Team meeting Date/time: Every Thursday at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes, beginning 18 November 2021 through 23 December 2021 (no call on 25 November 2021) Please click the link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior [icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/hwO7Cg (18<https://community.icann.org/x/hwO7Cg%20(18> November, see future dates on the left side) * For other places see: https://tinyurl.com/ekdp76rh ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands.

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IDNs EPDP Team meeting
by ICANN Policy Calendar 15 Nov '21

15 Nov '21

Meeting: IDNs EPDP Team meeting Date/time: Every Thursday at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes, beginning 18 November 2021 through 23 December 2021 (no call on 25 November 2021) Please click the link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior [icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/hwO7Cg (18<https://community.icann.org/x/hwO7Cg%20(18> November, see future dates on the left side) * For other places see: https://tinyurl.com/ekdp76rh ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands.

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Reminder: meeting cancellation & 90 minute duration
by Ariel Liang 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Dear EPDP Team, This is a reminder that we won’t have a meeting tomorrow (Thursday 11 November) due to ICANN office closing in observance of the Veterans Day in the US. Meeting will resume next Thursday, 18 November. In addition, please provide your feedback on list by COB tomorrow regarding our weekly call duration extension to 90 minutes (13:30-15:00 UTC), so that staff can schedule future calls accordingly. Thanks to those who have provided input. Best Regards, Ariel

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Extending IDN EPDP Team Call to 90 Minutes
by Ariel Liang 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Dear EPDP Team members, Staff are following up on the question about extending our weekly call to 90 minutes. 13:30-15:00 UTC on Thursday seems to be the timeslot that can accommodate all time zones represented in the EPDP Team, although it can be challenging for some regions. If there is no objection from the EPDP Team, staff will start scheduling future calls in that slot (starting on 18 November). If you have objection or any concerns, please share on the mailing list by COB Thursday, 11 November. Thank you, Ariel Ariel Xinyue Liang Policy Sr. Specialist Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

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Notes and action items - IDNs EPDP Meeting #13 - 4 November 2021
by Steve Chan 04 Nov '21

04 Nov '21

Dear all, Please find below the notes from today’s meeting on Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 13:00 UTC. Best regards, Ariel, Emily, and Steve Action Items: Action Item: Staff will formulate a draft outcome for a3, taking into consideration EPDP Team discussion. Notes – IDNs EPDP Call – 4 November 2021 Roll Call & SOI Updates * SOI Update - Justine has completed her 2-year term as an ALAC Member and has taken up a new leadership appointment -- as the ALAC Liaison to the GNSO Council. * SOI Update - Jeff was appointed as the GNSO Council liaison to the SubPro ODP. * On behalf of Council, RySG considering next steps for letter<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/attachments/20211020/3a5724ea/2021-1…> from Board on IDN Implementation Guidelines v4.0. Work may come to the EPDP, but unsure at this time. Continue deliberations on Topic A: Consistent definition and technical utilization of RZ-LGR – continue with question a3 * Staff reviewed the expanded process flow for application of the RZ-LGR in the New gTLD process * Assertion that the challenge mechanism is against the remit of the DNS Stability Panel – checking validity against the RZ-LGR. * In the challenge, after the re-check, initial assessment could be wrong and the string could be valid (application reinstated) or assessment could be confirmed (application still rejected). * The other outcome is an issue with the RZ-LGR itself, and the challenge would be to the Generation Panel/Integration Panel. * Some agreement that challenges against the RZ-LGR itself should be external to the program and any applicable applications should be removed from the program. * Question: Applicants can check their string now. Why would they nevertheless apply, if they know the string is invalid? Why is a panel needed to challenge outcomes? * Answer: Goes right to question in block 12. For this group to determine. * The process flow that EPDP leadership has created is based on assumptions, in particular taking into account implementation from 2012. We don’t know at this stage because the Board has not adopted SubPro Recs. * The expectation is that the DNS Stability panel will perform a manual review, even after an algorithmic review initially. This is a part of the panel’s other review responsibilities. * Question: For step 27, is it feasible to submit a change request to a GP that might not exist? * Answer: This seems to support the assumption that the change request for RZ-LGR belongs outside of the program. * Question: If we disallow steps 26 and 27 and the change request is ongoing, what should be done? * Answer: Perhaps there should be notification earlier in the process that a change request to the GP, outside of the New G Program, might make sense (e.g., step 12). * Question 1: * Some think no, as why would a manual check make a difference? * If invalid according to the implementation of the algorithm, then it should be allowed (but it should be valid according to the RZ-LGR). The question needs to be refined. * Some agree that challenging the implementation of the algorithm makes sense, since mistakes can be made. * After discussion, all agree. Box 12 is captured accurately. * Question 2: * Envisioned that the DNS Stability Panel would perform a check to ensure that the algorithm was applied correctly to the applicant’s string. * One thought that manual review for all strings is overkill. * The DNS Stability Panel performing this check would be consistent with 2012. Agreement to the question, though with some hesitation about it being unnecessary. * Question 3: * Clarifying the question – is the question more about, is there any reason why the change request process for the RZ-LGR should be a part of the New gTLD Program? * Reiterating Jeff’s point, if the change request process is invoked, the relevant string should not hold up any other applications. * Question 4: * “Amend” could mean simple syntax changes versus material changes to the string. * As strings can be checked beforehand, it seems that changes should not be allowed? Action Item: Staff will formulate a draft outcome for a3, taking into consideration EPDP Team discussion. AOB * We may need to revisit the scheduling of the meeting because of time changes * Will likely need to extend to 90 minutes, hopefully EPDP Team members will be amenable to the change. Steven Chan  Senior Director, GNSO Support Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  Email: steve.chan(a)icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> Skype: steve.chan55 Mobile: +1.310.339.4410 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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Post Call | IDNs EPDP Team call | Thursday, 04 November 2021 at 13:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland 04 Nov '21

04 Nov '21

Dear all, All recordings for the IDNs EPDP Team call held on Thursday, 04 November 2021 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/eQyHCg> (attendance included) and the GNSO Master Calendar.<https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar> These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-idn-team/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/uAPpCQ>. Thank you! Kind Regards, Julie

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 04 November 2021 at 13:00 UTC
by Julie Bisland 03 Nov '21

03 Nov '21

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 04 November 2021 at 13:00 UTC for 60 minutes. Please click the link below to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior [icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/eQyHCg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/2ea6cm33 [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/2ea6cm33__;!!PtGJab4!qV-MYou…> ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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Questions to Facilitate Deliberation of Charter Question A3
by Ariel Liang 03 Nov '21

03 Nov '21

Dear EPDP Team, On behalf of the leadership team, staff are sending a list of questions in advance to facilitate the continued deliberation of charter question A3 in the upcoming meeting. We also attached an updated diagram to illustrate the possible procedural application of RZ-LGR in the new gTLD application process and how a challenge process may look like. Questions for Discussion Question 1: [Assuming that the applied-for label has passed the mandatory string requirements and IDNA 2008 requirements] Should the applicant be allowed to submit an application for a gTLD label, knowing the label is invalid according to the RZ-LGR? Question 2: Does the DNS Stability Panel have a role in assessing whether the RZ-LGR has been applied correctly? Question 3: Is a change request made to the Generation Panel to update the RZ-LGR outside the challenge process for the new gTLD program? Change request to update the RZ-LGR can be made at any time, not limited to the application period. Question 4: [Assuming that the application system has correctly incorporated the algorithmic check] Upon receiving rejection from the DNS Stability Panel, should the applicant be allowed to amend the applied-for label in order to conform with the application system? == Notes about the Diagram * Slide 4 was initially presented at ICANN72 EPDP Team session (see the Zoom recording here<https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/Qmo3Y1RLyCGtR20HCJR8AFkdnvBstiRhOmuJCp1is6FU…>). * Changes were made to slide 4 in this updated version: 1) each square is now numbered to make it easier for referencing; 2) the original rightmost square “DNS Stability Panel refers challenge to Generation Panel” is removed, as additional steps are built out in the new slide 5. * The new slide 5 demonstrates the potential challenge process, which may deal with technical mistake of the RZ-LGR implementation but not the RZ-LGR rule itself. The process flow will be presented during the upcoming call. Best Regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel

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Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #13 - 4 November 2021 at 13:00 UTC
by Ariel Liang 02 Nov '21

02 Nov '21

Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for our meeting on Thursday, 4 November at 13:00 UTC. Kind regards, Steve, Emily, Ariel IDN EPDP Meeting #13 Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call & SOI Updates 2. Continued Deliberations on Topic A: Consistent Definition and Technical Utilization of RZ-LGR – Continue with Question A3 * Topic A working document: live version<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9dSd7alSvz9ZFo0SRxEJdbvTXuYKxfZpxcKVhi…> in Google Docs, archived versions in MS Word on wiki<https://community.icann.org/display/epdpidn/Working+Documents> 3. AOB: possible change of call duration to 90 minutes

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