June 2022 - Gnso-epdp-idn-team

Notes - IDNs EPDP Meeting #38 - 02 June 2022
by Steve Chan June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

Dear all, Please find below the notes from the meeting on Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 13:30 UTC. Best, Ariel, Emily, and Steve Notes – IDNs EPDP Call – 02 June 2022 Roll Call & SOI * None Welcome & Chair Updates * Reviewing calendar, cancelled meeting #39 and #40. Takes into account ICANN74, which includes two sessions. * During ICANN74 session – to receive an update from liaison on ccPDP4, update from small team, working session on charter questions. The sessions will be open to the public. * Reminder that room capacities are limited. Discuss charter question E7, parking lot item – evaluating variants of restricted gTLD (e.g., .brand, geographic names, etc.) * This parking lot item came from discussing the evaluation of variants of restricted gTLDs. * Connection to B5, which was about the principle for treatment of non-standard TLDs. Preliminary agreement there is that at a principle level, the variants should be considered different versions of the same string, and be bound by the same restrictions. * Only considered the topic from the perspective of new gTLDs, not existing gTLDs. Also did not discuss at the evaluation process, which is why it was added to the parking lot. * Slide 7 – Community-based TLDs * Slide 8 – Geographic Names * Slide 9 – Brand TLDs * Slide 10 – TLDs Subject to Category 1 Safeguards * Slide 11 – Questions for Discussion * 1. Bound by same eval process 2) must meet same criteria and 3) if not possible to meet criteria, how should variants be treated? * Complicated topic, so this may be a challenging conversation. * Noted that the group has agreed that the primary and variants should be considered a single application. Therefore, it may make sense that the evaluation requirements should be applied against the variants. * Some agreement from members. And further, that if a variant does not meet the requirements, it should not pass evaluation. * For a community application in particular, it may not always be possible for a community applicant to meet the stringent requirements for Community Priority Evaluation. Therefore, may be better to consider the strings as a set, not individually require each to pass CPE. * Noting the principles this group has agreed to (e.g., RZ-LGR, same-entity, atomicity, conservativeness), they should serve as a lens to look at this topic through. * The primary string may potentially be subject to the heaviest, full requirements, and perhaps variants can be subject to a lighter weight evaluation process/requirements. * Noted the expectation of updating the process flow to include preliminary recommendations, which may help understand requirements. * For geographic names, the process should take into account the different levels (1, 2, 3) for comparison purposes. As in, should the letter of support be required for level 1, 2, or 3. * Some suggestions that the letter of support should also apply to allocatable variants (requested variants). * For .brand, a TM is required. In some cases, the variants may not have TMs. We may need additional expertise for some of these questions. * There are entry conditions, evaluation conditions, and in some cases, contractual requirements. Maybe helpful to look at each. And perhaps there are general treatment for all. * Three questions to shape discussion: * Should each requested variant label be subject to the same evaluation process as the primary string? * Should the variant labels meet the same criteria as the primary string in order to pass evaluation? * In the event where it is not possible for the variant labels to meet the same criteria as the primary string, how should such variant labels be treated? * Geographic Names – the variant may not strictly meet the requirements of a geographic name as defined in the AGB. Is this possible? * For a city name in Arabic, the variant may be in Urdu, Pashto, etc. * Requiring letters of support for variants potentially protects relevant governmental entity. * Question about multiple applications for the same term, with different spellings. Or even same spelling, with multiple applicants (with adequate support). * For a city in China, it may be politically sensitive to request the traditional Chinese as a variant and say it supports/non-objects. Or vice versa, asking other regions to endorse a simplified string may be problematic where they typically use traditional Chinese. As such, this is an argument to emphasize the primary string. * There are implications here, where the variants may still be subject to objection processes. * Noted that the example above, where a government is not in a position to endorse (even if it may not actually object. * For Brands, it is similar to Geos, where the variants may not have a TM. * Suggestion to block (or disallow from application) variants that are not trademarks. No standing to treat as a brand name if it doesn’t have TM backing. * Community-based TLDs, would be relative to CPE. If not in contention, the claim to support a community is accepted as a matter of faith. * Concern about scoring system for CPE. Explanation of applicability of scoring (i.e., to award priority over others). * Question for this group is relevance of variants to CPE scoring. * What makes these conversation more difficult is that it requires a deep understanding of the process to understand implications. * Question about whether the 2012 round experienced challenging situations as it relates to variants. Clarification that variants were not allowed in 2012. AOB * None Steven Chan  Senior Director, Policy Development Support & GNSO Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536  Email: steve.chan(a)icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> Skype: steve.chan55 Mobile: +1.310.339.4410 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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Post Call | IDNs EPDP Team call | Thursday, 02 June 2022
by Devan Reed June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

Dear all, All recordings for the IDNs EPDP Team call held on Thursday, 02 June 2022 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/kwB1Cw> (attendance included) and the GNSO Master Calendar. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calen…> These include: * Attendance (please let me know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom chat archive * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript) * Transcript For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-idn-team/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/uAPpCQ>. Thank you! Kind Regards, Devan

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Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 30 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Devan Reed June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

As a reminder the meetings being held during ICANN74 will take place on Monday, 13 June 2022 at 16:30 CEST (14:30 UTC) and Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 10:30 CEST (08:30 UTC) * ICANN74 wiki agenda pages: * Monday https://community.icann.org/x/IBR1Cw * Wednesday https://community.icann.org/x/JBR1Cw * Please be sure you are registered for ICANN74! * Zoom participation links will be published 24 hours before the ICANN74 sessions start. For more information on how to participate, visit: https://74.schedule.icann.org/attend Find below the meeting details for the IDNs EPDP call taking place after ICANN74. ************************************************************* Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 30 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/tQD5Cw * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/5n7d3vxh ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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15 MINUTES **REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 02 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Devan Reed June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 02 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/kwB1Cw * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/4tsb267c [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/4tsb267c__;!!PtGJab4!_cqMveW…> ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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ICANN74 GNSO Policy Briefing Available for Download
by Julie Bisland June 1, 2022

June 1, 2022

Dear All, On behalf of the GNSO Team, I am happy to report that the GNSO Policy Briefing for ICANN74 is now available for download at https://go.icann.org/gnsobriefing [go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/go.icann.org/gnsobriefing__;!!PtGJab4!rw…>. Happy reading! Best Regards, Julie -- Julie Bisland Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype ID: 79613b691cb8a6c1 Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__learn.icann.org_&d=DwM…> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANN-5FGN…> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…>

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**REMINDER** Meeting Invitation | IDNs EPDP Team | Thursday, 02 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Julie Bisland June 1, 2022

June 1, 2022

Dear all, The IDNs EPDP Team meeting is scheduled on Thursday, 02 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC for 90 minutes. Please click link to join the webinar: https://icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFzMlpsYmh0NnFjTEQwOUV1dz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/94276275950?pwd=dG5hanFz…> Passcode: !!0tV0Wh&K For Audio only: One tap mobile : US: +13017158592,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# or +13126266799,,94276275950#,,,,*5259149775# Webinar ID: 942 7627 5950 Passcode: 5259149775 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/adP1jJ0gRH__;!!PtGJab4!v…> If this is your first time with Zoom, please take a look here: Welcome to Zoom <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/polic…> Members, participants, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send dial out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> * Visit the Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/kwB1Cw * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/4tsb267c [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/4tsb267c__;!!PtGJab4!_cqMveW…> ONLY for Members and Participants * Please join via the above Main Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select Everyone, when posting to the chat in order for everyone to see and to be captured afterwards. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Devan

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Proposed Agenda - IDN EPDP Meeting #38 - Thursday 2 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC
by Emily Barabas June 1, 2022

June 1, 2022

Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for our meeting on Thursday 2 June 2022 at 13:30 UTC. Kind regards, Ariel, Steve, and Emily IDN EPDP Meeting #38 Proposed Agenda 1. Roll Call & SOI (2 minutes) 2. Welcome & Chair Updates (5 mins) 3. Discuss charter question E7, parking lot item – evaluating variants of restricted gTLD (e.g., .brand, geographic names, etc.) (80 minutes) 4. AOB (3 mins)

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