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IRT Meeting (2 of 4) - Tues. 13 Sep 2016 18:00 UTC
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 24, 2016

Aug. 24, 2016

Dear Colleagues, The second Thick Whois Implementation Review Team teleconference for September is scheduled for Tuesday 13 September 2016 at 18:00 UTC for 1 hour (other time zones: http://tinyurl.com/twirt-13sep16) Remote participation: Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/thick-whois-irt/ You can join by dialing one of the access numbers below. Mobile:tel://17193252630,*,,9701145865# Phone Only Controls :https://go.conferencinghub.com/21uoq Primary Access Number:1-719-325-2630 Guest Passcode:970 114 5865 Additional Access: USA:1-719-325-2630 Canada, Calgary:+1 403 407 5780 Canada, Montreal:+1 514 669 5909 Canada, Toronto:+1 416 915 3615 Canada, Vancouver:+1 604 205 5118 Argentina (toll free):0800 800 1250 Argentina, Buenos Aires:+54 (0) 11 5172 6019 Australia (toll free):1 800 720 493 Australia, Brisbane:+61 (0) 7 3015 0608 Australia, Melbourne:+61 (0) 3 8687 0614 Australia, Sydney:+61 (0) 2 8017 6391 Austria (toll free):0800 886 63404 Austria, Vienna:+43 (0) 1 25302 1775 Bahrain (toll free):8008 1214 Bahrain, Manama:+973 1650 0402 Belarus (toll free):8 820 0011 0353 Belgium (toll free):0800 39 268 Belgium, Brussels:+32 (0) 2 400 1980 Brazil (toll free):0800 887 0283 Brazil, Rio de Janeiro:+55 21 4560 0023 Brazil, Sao Paulo:+55 11 4935 7122 Bulgaria (toll free):00800 111 4944 Bulgaria, Sofia:+359 (0) 2 491 7244 Canada (toll free):1 855 950 3706 Chile (toll free):171 800 835 943 Chile, Santiago:+56 (0) 2 2666 0711 China (national):+400 681 8104 China, Beijing:+86 10 5667 0005 China, Shanghai:+86 21 2039 7079 Colombia (toll free):01 800 755 0043 Colombia, Bogota:+57 1 508 8112 Costa Rica (toll free):800 542 5331 Croatia (toll free):0800 223 004 Cyprus (toll free):800 97400 Czech Republic (toll free):800 701 236 Czech Republic, Prague:+420 225 986 505 Denmark (toll free):80 70 35 78 Denmark, Copenhagen:+45 32 71 16 70 Egypt (toll free):0800 000 0401 Estonia (toll free):800 011 1569 Estonia, Tallinn:+372 622 6519 Fiji (toll free):00800 3317 Finland (toll free):0800 772 230 Finland, Helsinki:+358 (0) 9 2310 1611 France (national):0811 655 134 France (toll free):0800 946 112 France, Paris:+33 (0) 1 76 77 22 50 Germany (national):01801 001 378 Germany (toll free):0800 588 9225 Germany, Frankfurt:+49 (0) 69 5060 9515 Germany, Munich:+49 (0) 89 24443 2900 Greece (toll free):00800 128 811 Greece, Athens:+30 211 181 3815 Hong Kong:+852 3018 9103 Hong Kong (toll free):800 968 082 Hungary (toll free):068 001 9662 Hungary, Budapest:+36 1 808 8134 Iceland (toll free):800 9841 India (toll free):000 800 100 7687 India, Bangalore:+91 (0) 80 6127 5084 India, Chennai:+91 (0)44 6688 6057 India, Delhi:+91 (0) 11 6641 1378 India, Mumbai:+91 (0)22 6187 5027 Indonesia (toll free):007 803 321 8120 Ireland (national):1890 907 722 Ireland (toll free):1800 937 695 Ireland, Dublin:+353 (0) 1 246 5614 Israel (toll free):180 921 2890 Israel, Tel Aviv:+972 (0)3 763 0384 Italy (toll free):800 148 288 Italy, Milan:+39 02 3046 4837 Italy, Rome:+39 06 4523 6635 Japan (mobile):0120 270 611 Japan (toll free):0120 286 011 Japan, Osaka:+81 (0) 6 4560 0303 Japan, Tokyo:+81 (0) 3 4560 1274 Kazakhstan (toll free):8800 333 7552 Latvia (toll free):8000 4374 Latvia, Riga:+371 6778 2598 Lithuania (toll free):8800 31445 Lithuania, Vilnius:+370 5205 5239 Luxembourg:+352 2730 2276 Luxembourg (toll free):800 28428 Malaysia (toll free):1 800 815 805 Malaysia,Kuala Lumpur:+60 (0) 3 7723 7140 Mexico (toll free):01 800 283 3129 Mexico, Guadalajara:+52 33 4162 5891 Mexico, Mexico City:+52 55 8421 0857 Mexico, Monterrey:+52 81 4770 2472 Morocco (toll free):0800 092 258 Morocco, Casablanca:+212 (0)520 480 128 Netherlands (toll free):0800 020 0593 Netherlands, Amsterdam:+31 (0) 20 716 8266 New Zealand (toll free):0800 459 127 New Zealand, Auckland:+64 (0) 9 929 1769 New Zealand, Christchurch:+64 (0) 3 974 2597 New Zealand, Wellington:+64 (0) 4 909 4676 Nigeria, Lagos:+234 1 277 5140 Norway (toll free):800 58459 Norway, Oslo:+47 2162 4054 Oman (toll free):800 77269 Panama (toll free):00800 223 1430 Panama, Panama City:+507 8 339 782 Peru (toll free):0800 78125 Peru, Lima:+51 (0) 1 700 9587 Philippines (toll free):1800 111 017 51 Philippines, Manila:+63 (0)2 395 3365 Poland (toll free):00800 121 4340 Poland, Warsaw:+48 22 295 3504 Portugal (toll free):800 784 434 Portugal, Lisbon:+351 21 316 4041 Qatar (toll free):00 800 100 499 Romania (toll free):0800 801 030 Romania, Bucharest:+40 (0) 21 529 3969 Russia (toll free):8 800 500 9319 Russia, Moscow:+7 495 213 0988 Saudi Arabia (toll free):800 844 4963 Saudi Arabia (toll free):800 850 0227 Serbia (toll free):0800 190 698 Singapore:+65 6622 1773 Singapore (toll free):800 616 3175 Slovakia (toll free):0800 001 661 Slovakia, Bratislava:+421 (0)2 3321 5333 Slovenia (toll free):0800 80994 Slovenia, Ljubljana:+386 1 600 1622 South Africa (toll free):0800 988 886 South Africa, Johannesburg:+27 (0)11 019 7087 South Korea (toll free):007 986 136 2233 South Korea, Seoul:+82 (0) 2 6007 0072 Spain (toll free):900 803 689 Spain, Barcelona:+34 93 800 1935 Spain, Madrid:+34 91 114 6640 Sweden (toll free):0200 125 456 Sweden, Stockholm:+46 (0) 8 5065 3944 Switzerland (toll free):0800 841 702 Switzerland, Geneva:+41 (0) 22 595 4857 Switzerland, Zurich:+41 (0) 44 580 7246 Taiwan (toll free):00 801 615 184 Taiwan, Taipei:+886 (0) 2 2656 7213 Thailand (toll free):001 800 6136 2243 Turkey (toll free):00 800 448 828 358 Turkey, Istanbul:+90 212 375 50 13 UAE (toll free):8000 3570 2638 UK (03):+44 (0)330 336 6010 UK (national):0844 581 8053 UK (national):0845 351 2816 UK (toll free):0800 368 0950 Ukraine (toll free):0800 500 732 Uruguay (toll free):0004 019 0561 USA /Canada (toll free):1-855-747-8824 Venezuela (toll free):0800 102 9660 Venezuela, Caracas:+58 212 720 2342 Vietnam (toll free):1800 9228

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IRT Meeting (1 of 4) - Tues. 6 Sep 2016 18:00 UTC
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 24, 2016

Aug. 24, 2016

Dear Colleagues, The first Thick Whois Implementation Review Team teleconference for September is scheduled for Tuesday 6 September 2016 at 18:00 UTC for 1 hour (other time zones: http://tinyurl.com/twirt-6sep16) Remote participation: Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/thick-whois-irt/ You can join by dialing one of the access numbers below. Mobile:tel://17193252630,*,,9701145865# Phone Only Controls :https://go.conferencinghub.com/21uoq Primary Access Number:1-719-325-2630 Guest Passcode:970 114 5865 Additional Access: USA:1-719-325-2630 Canada, Calgary:+1 403 407 5780 Canada, Montreal:+1 514 669 5909 Canada, Toronto:+1 416 915 3615 Canada, Vancouver:+1 604 205 5118 Argentina (toll free):0800 800 1250 Argentina, Buenos Aires:+54 (0) 11 5172 6019 Australia (toll free):1 800 720 493 Australia, Brisbane:+61 (0) 7 3015 0608 Australia, Melbourne:+61 (0) 3 8687 0614 Australia, Sydney:+61 (0) 2 8017 6391 Austria (toll free):0800 886 63404 Austria, Vienna:+43 (0) 1 25302 1775 Bahrain (toll free):8008 1214 Bahrain, Manama:+973 1650 0402 Belarus (toll free):8 820 0011 0353 Belgium (toll free):0800 39 268 Belgium, Brussels:+32 (0) 2 400 1980 Brazil (toll free):0800 887 0283 Brazil, Rio de Janeiro:+55 21 4560 0023 Brazil, Sao Paulo:+55 11 4935 7122 Bulgaria (toll free):00800 111 4944 Bulgaria, Sofia:+359 (0) 2 491 7244 Canada (toll free):1 855 950 3706 Chile (toll free):171 800 835 943 Chile, Santiago:+56 (0) 2 2666 0711 China (national):+400 681 8104 China, Beijing:+86 10 5667 0005 China, Shanghai:+86 21 2039 7079 Colombia (toll free):01 800 755 0043 Colombia, Bogota:+57 1 508 8112 Costa Rica (toll free):800 542 5331 Croatia (toll free):0800 223 004 Cyprus (toll free):800 97400 Czech Republic (toll free):800 701 236 Czech Republic, Prague:+420 225 986 505 Denmark (toll free):80 70 35 78 Denmark, Copenhagen:+45 32 71 16 70 Egypt (toll free):0800 000 0401 Estonia (toll free):800 011 1569 Estonia, Tallinn:+372 622 6519 Fiji (toll free):00800 3317 Finland (toll free):0800 772 230 Finland, Helsinki:+358 (0) 9 2310 1611 France (national):0811 655 134 France (toll free):0800 946 112 France, Paris:+33 (0) 1 76 77 22 50 Germany (national):01801 001 378 Germany (toll free):0800 588 9225 Germany, Frankfurt:+49 (0) 69 5060 9515 Germany, Munich:+49 (0) 89 24443 2900 Greece (toll free):00800 128 811 Greece, Athens:+30 211 181 3815 Hong Kong:+852 3018 9103 Hong Kong (toll free):800 968 082 Hungary (toll free):068 001 9662 Hungary, Budapest:+36 1 808 8134 Iceland (toll free):800 9841 India (toll free):000 800 100 7687 India, Bangalore:+91 (0) 80 6127 5084 India, Chennai:+91 (0)44 6688 6057 India, Delhi:+91 (0) 11 6641 1378 India, Mumbai:+91 (0)22 6187 5027 Indonesia (toll free):007 803 321 8120 Ireland (national):1890 907 722 Ireland (toll free):1800 937 695 Ireland, Dublin:+353 (0) 1 246 5614 Israel (toll free):180 921 2890 Israel, Tel Aviv:+972 (0)3 763 0384 Italy (toll free):800 148 288 Italy, Milan:+39 02 3046 4837 Italy, Rome:+39 06 4523 6635 Japan (mobile):0120 270 611 Japan (toll free):0120 286 011 Japan, Osaka:+81 (0) 6 4560 0303 Japan, Tokyo:+81 (0) 3 4560 1274 Kazakhstan (toll free):8800 333 7552 Latvia (toll free):8000 4374 Latvia, Riga:+371 6778 2598 Lithuania (toll free):8800 31445 Lithuania, Vilnius:+370 5205 5239 Luxembourg:+352 2730 2276 Luxembourg (toll free):800 28428 Malaysia (toll free):1 800 815 805 Malaysia,Kuala Lumpur:+60 (0) 3 7723 7140 Mexico (toll free):01 800 283 3129 Mexico, Guadalajara:+52 33 4162 5891 Mexico, Mexico City:+52 55 8421 0857 Mexico, Monterrey:+52 81 4770 2472 Morocco (toll free):0800 092 258 Morocco, Casablanca:+212 (0)520 480 128 Netherlands (toll free):0800 020 0593 Netherlands, Amsterdam:+31 (0) 20 716 8266 New Zealand (toll free):0800 459 127 New Zealand, Auckland:+64 (0) 9 929 1769 New Zealand, Christchurch:+64 (0) 3 974 2597 New Zealand, Wellington:+64 (0) 4 909 4676 Nigeria, Lagos:+234 1 277 5140 Norway (toll free):800 58459 Norway, Oslo:+47 2162 4054 Oman (toll free):800 77269 Panama (toll free):00800 223 1430 Panama, Panama City:+507 8 339 782 Peru (toll free):0800 78125 Peru, Lima:+51 (0) 1 700 9587 Philippines (toll free):1800 111 017 51 Philippines, Manila:+63 (0)2 395 3365 Poland (toll free):00800 121 4340 Poland, Warsaw:+48 22 295 3504 Portugal (toll free):800 784 434 Portugal, Lisbon:+351 21 316 4041 Qatar (toll free):00 800 100 499 Romania (toll free):0800 801 030 Romania, Bucharest:+40 (0) 21 529 3969 Russia (toll free):8 800 500 9319 Russia, Moscow:+7 495 213 0988 Saudi Arabia (toll free):800 844 4963 Saudi Arabia (toll free):800 850 0227 Serbia (toll free):0800 190 698 Singapore:+65 6622 1773 Singapore (toll free):800 616 3175 Slovakia (toll free):0800 001 661 Slovakia, Bratislava:+421 (0)2 3321 5333 Slovenia (toll free):0800 80994 Slovenia, Ljubljana:+386 1 600 1622 South Africa (toll free):0800 988 886 South Africa, Johannesburg:+27 (0)11 019 7087 South Korea (toll free):007 986 136 2233 South Korea, Seoul:+82 (0) 2 6007 0072 Spain (toll free):900 803 689 Spain, Barcelona:+34 93 800 1935 Spain, Madrid:+34 91 114 6640 Sweden (toll free):0200 125 456 Sweden, Stockholm:+46 (0) 8 5065 3944 Switzerland (toll free):0800 841 702 Switzerland, Geneva:+41 (0) 22 595 4857 Switzerland, Zurich:+41 (0) 44 580 7246 Taiwan (toll free):00 801 615 184 Taiwan, Taipei:+886 (0) 2 2656 7213 Thailand (toll free):001 800 6136 2243 Turkey (toll free):00 800 448 828 358 Turkey, Istanbul:+90 212 375 50 13 UAE (toll free):8000 3570 2638 UK (03):+44 (0)330 336 6010 UK (national):0844 581 8053 UK (national):0845 351 2816 UK (toll free):0800 368 0950 Ukraine (toll free):0800 500 732 Uruguay (toll free):0004 019 0561 USA /Canada (toll free):1-855-747-8824 Venezuela (toll free):0800 102 9660 Venezuela, Caracas:+58 212 720 2342 Vietnam (toll free):1800 9228

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Meeting Recording and Chat Transcript Available (23 Aug 2016)
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 24, 2016

Aug. 24, 2016

Dear Colleagues, The recording and chat transcript from our latest meeting (Tuesday 23 August) are now available on the IRT Meeting's workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings We will post the meeting transcript once it is available. Thank you for your attention. Aysegul Tekce Registry Services & Engagement Manager ICANN – Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Istanbul, Turkey T: +90 212 999 6227

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[UPDATE] Meeting Recording and Chat Transcript Available (16 Aug 2016)
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 23, 2016

Aug. 23, 2016

Dear Colleagues, The transcript from our meeting on 16 August is now available and posted on the IRT Meeting's workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings Thank you for your attention. Aysegul Tekce Registry Services & Engagement Manager ICANN – Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Istanbul, Turkey T: +90 212 999 6227 From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Aysegul Tekce <aysegul.tekce(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday 18 August 2016 at 15:33 To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Meeting Recording and Chat Transcript Available (16 Aug 2016) Dear Colleagues, The recording and chat transcript from our latest meeting (Tuesday 16 August) are now available on the IRT Meeting's workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings We will post the meeting transcript once it is available. Thank you for your attention. Aysegul Tekce Registry Services & Engagement Manager ICANN – Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Istanbul, Turkey T: +90 212 999 6227

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Meeting Recording and Chat Transcript Available (16 Aug 2016)
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 22, 2016

Aug. 22, 2016

Dear Colleagues, The recording and chat transcript from our latest meeting (Tuesday 16 August) are now available on the IRT Meeting's workspace: https://community.icann.org/display/TWCPI/IRT+Meetings We will post the meeting transcript once it is available. Thank you for your attention. Aysegul Tekce Registry Services & Engagement Manager ICANN – Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Istanbul, Turkey T: +90 212 999 6227

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Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick
by Fabien Betremieux Aug. 16, 2016

Aug. 16, 2016

Dear IRT Members, As Staff is working on drafting the implementation plan, including potential measures that could be implemented or suggested to facilitate and encourage Registrars to complete the migration of registration data from thin to thick, we would like to pick IRT members brains about the type of measures they believe would or would not be effective for themselves and others . To date, several ideas have been floated in IRT discussions: * Using renewal date of a registration as a pacing mechanism to migrate registration data * Setting up financial incentives plans similar to what some ccTLDs have done to promote the adoption of DNSSEC * Not replicating the migration in batch implemented during the migration of .ORG from thin to thick Can you think of other effective (or non effective) measures ? Thanks in advance for your discussion of this topic. Best Regards Fabien From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of theo geurts <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> Date: Monday, June 20, 2016 at 5:32 PM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Updated Scorecard of Transition Implementation Path Discussions Thanks. Fabien, I think it is wise that the comment from Steve Metalitz on the last call is also reflected in 7B. That once the PDP is sent to the Registrars with an effective date becomes an obligation for Registrars to comply with. This itself does not solve the issue, but it does raise the question how ICANN Compliance is gonna deal with this and how it could possibly affect the timeline. The dynamics being different compared to .ORG. Let me explain my thinking here. Assume in a worst case scenario that we are passed the end date of the migration (18 months). The end result is 200 Registrars did not migrate the data. Compliance kicks in. They need to deal with 200 Registrars mediation is 6 months(complete guess). Total migration time 24 months. Do we need to factor this in? Does it add anything? How compliance will deal with this is outside the scope of the IRT in my opinion. Though Maguy and her team might want to start thinking about this. Best, Theo Geurts On 20-6-2016 16:36, Fabien Betremieux wrote: > Dear IRT Members, > > In advance of our meeting planned tomorrow, please find attached our updated > scorecard (in clean and redline versions) per discussion in last week¹s > meeting and over the mailing list since then. > > We will use the clean version to guide our discussion tomorrow. In the > meantime, please let me know if you would like to propose edits to the > scorecard. > > Thank you for your attention > -- > Fabien Betremieux > Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager > Global Domains Division, ICANN > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list > Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-im > pl-thickwhois-rt

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Open Items 5/6 - Inter-registrar Transfers
by Fabien Betremieux Aug. 15, 2016

Aug. 15, 2016

Dear IRT Members, In his recent email below, Theo is raising a number of questions related to the use case where a loosing registrar has transitioned to thick and the gaining registrar is still thin and not ready to handle thick registrations: - would registries support the proposal that registry-level contacts be deleted if a gaining registrar is not yet ready to handle thick registrations ? - are other registrars foreseeing issues such at those presented below by Theo ? In addition to the above questions, our scorecard includes an open question related to the validation of contact data upon transfers during or after the transition: what validation rules should apply to transfers requiring the creation of new contacts (registrar-based ROIDs needed) when data is missing for these contacts ? We are seeking IRT members input to determine if there should be specific requirements in the policy language to account for these situations. Thank you in advance for your discussion of these topics. Best Regards Fabien -----Original Message----- From: theo geurts <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 10:16 PM To: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux(a)icann.org>, "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] The thing that should not be >One of the Metallica tracks i never liked much. Anyways. > >Domain transfers with contacts at the registry to a registrar that >cannot deal with it. >It would create two different sets of contacts, one at the registry, one >at the registrar. When the registrant updates the data it would be >updated at the registrar level but not at the registry level. > >This will create issues, or to be more precise, this is going to be a >train wreck. > >FRANCISCO's solution: if a registrar is not yet ready to manage contacts >in the registry, one thing they could do if they are the gaining >registrar in transfer when they accept the transfer, they immediately >remove the contacts from the registry so that you don¹t have stale >contacts in the registry. >Question: if the contact is no longer at the registry, but only at the >registrar, are we going to reverse the issues? There is some rather >specific language in IRTP C, will this create issues? > >Our dev team thinks they can implement the above solution, however, we >did not discuss the amount of time involved. >The solution works if it is allowed at the Registry level. > >Assuming this is allowed (still, an if) then we do not know how it will >affect registrars. Up till now, we assumed this was some simple >migration. With the above in mind, not so much in my opinion. To give >you guys an example, we used to be a wholesale registrar nowadays we >make our money from our registrar gateway platform. >So if we gonna make a few changes, it will affect not just us as a >registrar but a boatload more. So we have a different architecture than >other registrars. This just being an example on how registrars set up >their backends, we are not unique. > >Thanks for reading this. > >Theo > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick
by Chris Pelling Aug. 10, 2016

Aug. 10, 2016

I agree with Roger except for the delay accreditation part, but certainly will not agree with Steve on numbers being released, percentages maybe but actual numbers I would not see a reasoning for that. Sent from Chris on the move ________________________________ From: theo geurts <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> Sent: 10 Aug 2016 19:51 To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Roger D Carney'; gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick I agree with Roger. I am not sure if I agree with Steve. The suggestion bout the progress expressed in percentages is fine, but why would we want these numbers be public? Beside some domain bloggers creating click-bait headlines, like :"will registrar X make the deadline or will they be de-accredited? Transfer your domains now!". I currently do not see why they should be made public, though I am open input. Thanks, Theo On 10-8-2016 20:06, Metalitz, Steven wrote: > > I agree with Roger that weekly and consolidated reporting would be a good idea. Would it be feasible to also provide as a denominator the total number of registrations sponsored by that registrar in the registries in question, so that progress could be expressed in percentage terms? These numbers should also be made public periodically. > > > > Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation > > T: 202.355.7902 | met(a)msk.com > > Mitchell Silberberg & KnuppLLP | www.msk.com > > 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 > > > > THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. > > > > From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Roger D Carney > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:24 PM > To: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org > Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick > > > > Good Morning, > > > > The migration data path should be left to the registrars discretion and not necessarily based on renewal dates. I would propose that starting at the beginning of the transition, Verisign can provide a weekly list of thin registrations to each registrar (and possibly ICANN) of domains that do not have contacts assigned and maybe a consolidated report showing Registrar progression. > > > > The reduced validation rules need to apply until all registrations are thick. > > > > Post transition, if domain has no ROIDs the domain is auto-deleted at the domain expiration date automatically by the Registry. > > > > Post transition completion date, ICANN will revoke your Registrar Accreditation 90 days after transition if you are not making noticeable progress on remaining thin registrations. > > > > > > Thanks > > Roger > > > > > > From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Fabien Betremieux > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 4:47 PM > To: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org > Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Open Item 7b - Coordination/Incentive for Registrars Migration to Thick > > > > Dear IRT Members, > > > > As Staff is working on drafting the implementation plan, including potential measures that could be implemented or suggested to facilitate and encourage Registrars to complete the migration of registration data from thin to thick, we would like to pick IRT members brains about the type of measures they believe would or would not be effective for themselves and others . > > > > To date, several ideas have been floated in IRT discussions: > > Using renewal date of a registration as a pacing mechanism to migrate registration data > Setting up financial incentives plans similar to what some ccTLDs have done to promote the adoption of DNSSEC > Not replicating the migration in batch implemented during the migration of .ORG from thin to thick > > Can you think of other effective (or non effective) measures ? > > > > Thanks in advance for your discussion of this topic. > > > > Best Regards > > Fabien > > > > From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of theo geurts <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> > Date: Monday, June 20, 2016 at 5:32 PM > To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Updated Scorecard of Transition Implementation Path Discussions > > > > Thanks. Fabien, > > I think it is wise that the comment from Steve Metalitz on the last call is also reflected in 7B. That once the PDP is sent to the Registrars with an effective date becomes an obligation for Registrars to comply with. > > This itself does not solve the issue, but it does raise the question how ICANN Compliance is gonna deal with this and how it could possibly affect the timeline. The dynamics being different compared to .ORG. > > Let me explain my thinking here. Assume in a worst case scenario that we are passed the end date of the migration (18 months). The end result is 200 Registrars did not migrate the data. Compliance kicks in. They need to deal with 200 Registrars mediation is 6 months(complete guess). Total migration time 24 months. > > Do we need to factor this in? Does it add anything? > > How compliance will deal with this is outside the scope of the IRT in my opinion. Though Maguy and her team might want to start thinking about this. > > Best, > > Theo Geurts > > On 20-6-2016 16:36, Fabien Betremieux wrote: >> >> Dear IRT Members, >> >> >> >> In advance of our meeting planned tomorrow, please find attached our updated scorecard (in clean and redline versions) per discussion in last week’s meeting and over the mailing list since then. >> >> >> >> We will use the clean version to guide our discussion tomorrow. In the meantime, please let me know if you would like to propose edits to the scorecard. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your attention >> >> -- >> >> Fabien Betremieux >> >> Sr. Registry Services & Engagement Manager >> >> Global Domains Division, ICANN >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list >> >> Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list > Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt

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Open Items 3f/g - Contact validation rules
by Fabien Betremieux Aug. 10, 2016

Aug. 10, 2016

Dear IRT Members, I believe there was no subsequent discussion following the email from Theo below. Are other registrars sharing the concerns/proposals ? Are registries in a position to respond to these ? Thank you in advance for your discussion. Best Regards Fabien -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of gtheo <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl> Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:22 AM To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Contact validation rules review. >Hi Guys, > >Let's get technical ;) > >Contact validation rules. > >-Name, organization, address 1-3, city, state. > >According to the rules , max length is 64, some Registries do indeed >limit this to 64. however the EPP standard is 255. > >I suggest Verisign sets this to 255, as it is very likely we will >encounter addresses longer than 64. I have seen addresses in India that >look like this: "#46, 1st floor, 4th Main road MLA layout, behind the >stadium, take the stairs right next to the cafeteria". > >I am not going to guess how things are organized in other parts of the >world, again we are talking really old data and one can only suspect >that Registrars been using the EPP standard. > >-Email > >My interpretation here is that there is no support for IDN TLD's as it >must end with a 2-63 char string. > >There is use for brackets regarding the domain name []. Usually used to >email an IP address. The regex actually prohibits this, but if you want >to support this then you support both brackets or no brackets, the >current specification lists them as individual optional brackets. > >In the user part, the following characters are supported ! # $ % & ' * + >- / = ? ^ _ ` { | } ~ >We actually do not support those as most registries do not support them >and we ran into some issues when we did support them back in the day. >That being said + is somewhat used, for example, Gmail to tag mail >(user+tag(a)gmail.com) > >So all in all nothing major that cannot be adjusted in time and some of >it can be ignored if decided otherwise, some not, idn email support for >example. > >Best regards, > >Theo Geurts > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt mailing list >Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt

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[CANCELLED] IRT Meeting (1 of 4) - Tues. 9 Aug 2016 18:00 UTC
by Aysegul Tekce Aug. 9, 2016

Aug. 9, 2016

Dear Colleagues, Please note that our meeting which was originally scheduled for 9 August is CANCELLED. Thank you, Aysegul Tekce Registry Services & Engagement Manager ICANN – Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers Istanbul, Turkey T: +90 212 999 6227 From: <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Aysegul Tekce <aysegul.tekce(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday 28 July 2016 at 13:04 To: "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] IRT Meeting (1 of 4) - Tues. 9 Aug 2016 18:00 UTC Dear Colleagues, The first Thick Whois Implementation Review Team teleconference for August is scheduled for Tuesday 9 August 2016 at 18:00 UTC for 1 hour (other time zones: http://tinyurl.com/twirt-9aug16) Remote participation: Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/thick-whois-irt/ You can join by dialing one of the access numbers below. 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