April 2014 - Gnso-ncph-leadership

Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] ICANN board seat #14 election
by Rafik Dammak April 10, 2014

April 10, 2014

Hi Marylin, as it is 6:30am here, I am trying to be sure that I understand correctly the proposal . it seems you are suggesting there that separate calls with candidates are only aimed for CSG and not for the entire NCPH? a common NCPH calls with candidates sounded better and fair approach. sure, we should send note to John to keep him updated and yes we can send it by the beginning of this week. of course, you and me we can discuss directly about the note . Rafik 2014-04-11 6:22 GMT+09:00 Marilyn Cade <marilynscade(a)hotmail.com>: > As it is 11 p.m in Europe, I am responding ONLY as FYI, but not replacing > Wolf-Ulrich as lead on this. > > The request is for separate calls with each candidate at this point from > CSG. > We did not discuss how NCSG/NCUC/NPOC proceeds, as that would be out of > scope for us. > > > Avri and Bill have both accepted calls /individual with CSG. > > We are in the process of scheduling with each candidate, and I return this > to Wolf-Ulrich on that note. > > Rafik, as you recall, you and I were tasked to meet with John Jeffrey. > > I am wondering if we might draft [I can draft for your review] a note to > John that is just a schedule update. Stage One: outcome;Stage Two: ends > tomorrow; outcome. > Calls with Candidates. > Stage Three : closing date. > > That seems in the spirit of how you and I left our informal discussion > with John. > Is that okay with you and then you can review within your NCSG/NPOC/NCUC > and I can with CSG, and then we send, perhaps Monday or tuesday? > > M > > > ------------------------------ > CC: avri(a)acm.org; bc-excomm(a)icann.org; sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org; > marilynscade(a)hotmail.com; gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org; > harris(a)cabase.org.ar > From: rafik.dammak(a)gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] ICANN board seat #14 election > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 06:15:48 +0900 > To: wolf-ulrich.knoben(a)t-online.de > > > Hi Wolf-Ulrich, > > Thanks for this proposal, > Just to clarify, are you suggesting to have one call for NCPH(CSG + NCSG) > with the two candidates in the same time? If yes, I think that we can agree > on that . > > hope that next time ,CSG and NCSG can discuss together about such setting > in more earlier stage. > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > > > > > Le 10 Apr 2014 à 06:25, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben(a)t-online.de> a > écrit : > > Dear Avri, > > the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for > ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform > you about on behalf of the EXCOM: > In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding > candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then > would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH > (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). > > This call should be used > > - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN > related issues > - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH > > Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the > global requirements of the NCPH at best. > > I would appreciate your confirmation. > > A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Bill Graham. > > Best regards > > Wolf-Ulrich > on behalf of CSG EXCOM > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list > Gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership > >

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ICANN board seat #14 election
by WUKnoben April 10, 2014

April 10, 2014

Dear Avri, the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform you about on behalf of the EXCOM: In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). This call should be used - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN related issues - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the global requirements of the NCPH at best. I would appreciate your confirmation. A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Bill Graham. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich on behalf of CSG EXCOM

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Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] ICANN board seat #14 election
by WUKnoben April 9, 2014

April 9, 2014

Storno! This was a wrong message and happened just due to the late hour. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: WUKnoben Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 11:31 PM To: gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org Cc: Cooper Elisa ; 'Marilyn Cade' ; Rosette Kristina ; Metalitz Steve ; sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org ; Tony Holmes ; Harris Tony ; Novoa Osvaldo ; John Berard ; bc-excomm(a)icann.org Subject: ICANN board seat #14 election To the NCSG representatives within the NCPH: We would very much appreciate you could agree to this plan and join the separate calls with Avri and Bill. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: WUKnoben Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 11:25 PM To: Avri Doria Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org ; Cooper Elisa ; 'Marilyn Cade' ; Rosette Kristina ; Metalitz Steve ; sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org ; Tony Holmes ; Harris Tony ; Novoa Osvaldo ; John Berard ; bc-excomm(a)icann.org Subject: ICANN board seat #14 election Dear Avri, the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform you about on behalf of the EXCOM: In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). This call should be used - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN related issues - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the global requirements of the NCPH at best. I would appreciate your confirmation. A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Bill Graham. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich on behalf of CSG EXCOM

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Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] ICANN board seat #14 election
by WUKnoben April 9, 2014

April 9, 2014

Storno! This was a wrong message and happened just due to the late hour. Corrected version will be sent soon Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: WUKnoben Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 11:27 PM To: Graham Bill Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org ; Cooper Elisa ; 'Marilyn Cade' ; Rosette Kristina ; Metalitz Steve ; sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org ; Tony Holmes ; Harris Tony ; Novoa Osvaldo ; John Berard ; bc-excomm(a)icann.org Subject: ICANN board seat #14 election Dear Bill, the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform you about on behalf of the EXCOM: In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). This call should be used - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN related issues - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the global requirements of the NCPH at best. I would appreciate your confirmation. A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Avri Doria. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich on behalf of CSG EXCOM

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ICANN board seat #14 election
by WUKnoben April 9, 2014

April 9, 2014

To the NCSG representatives within the NCPH: We would very much appreciate you could agree to this plan and join the separate calls with Avri and Bill. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: WUKnoben Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 11:25 PM To: Avri Doria Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org ; Cooper Elisa ; 'Marilyn Cade' ; Rosette Kristina ; Metalitz Steve ; sdelbianco(a)netchoice.org ; Tony Holmes ; Harris Tony ; Novoa Osvaldo ; John Berard ; bc-excomm(a)icann.org Subject: ICANN board seat #14 election Dear Avri, the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform you about on behalf of the EXCOM: In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). This call should be used - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN related issues - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the global requirements of the NCPH at best. I would appreciate your confirmation. A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Bill Graham. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich on behalf of CSG EXCOM

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ICANN board seat #14 election
by WUKnoben April 9, 2014

April 9, 2014

Dear Bill, the CSG EXCOM just met on a phone call to discuss the ongoing election for ICANN board seat #14. We decided the following which I’m honoured to inform you about on behalf of the EXCOM: In case the 2nd election round should not be finished with one succeding candidate (according to the rules commonly agreed within the NCPH) we then would like to invite you to meet with representatives of the entire NCPH (CSG EXCOM + corresponding NCSG reps). This call should be used - to better know and clarify candidates’ positions on various ICANN related issues - to deeper explore common grounds between the candidates and the NCPH Our suggestion for a call with you is April 14 or 15 at a time meeting the global requirements of the NCPH at best. I would appreciate your confirmation. A separate corresponding invitation is sent to Avri Doria. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich on behalf of CSG EXCOM

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an announcement from Mikey -- i'm retiring from ICANN
by Mike O'Connor April 7, 2014

April 7, 2014

dear all, just a quick note to let you know that i am retiring from ICANN. right now. how about that? it’s spring here at the farm and i’ve realized that it’s time for me to redirect my attention to things closer to home and heart. as you can see by the number of mailing lists this note is addressed to, i’ve spread myself too thin. somewhere along the line i burned myself out. i never was very good at seeing this “burnout" thing coming. oops... as to the “immediately” timeframe — well, i’m burned out. which means that the prospect of ICANN-related work just leaves me cold. so rather than drag myself (and you) through some half-baked transition period where i do an even worse job than i’ve been doing lately, i’m just making a clean break of it. it will turn out fine. you’ll see. as of this note i’m setting down all the trappings. GNSO Councillor, ISPCP support, the working groups, all the leadership-development and newcomer-orientation projects. i’m not throwing them down, just placing them gently there for somebody else to pick up and run with. this is the place where i’m supposed to write about how i’ll miss you all. but i’m not going to do that. through the miracle of this Internet thing, i plan to stay connected to you and maintain all those friendships that have developed over the years. i’m just stopping the work, not the relationships. maybe some day i’ll even dip my toe back into a working group or two. but not right away. right now that goes on the Too Hard pile. here’s a link to a pictorial tour of the farm. http://www.aprairiehaven.com/?page_id=23369 see that bench? that’s where i’ll be sitting, thinking of you. come visit. Marcie and i will show you around. onward, mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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Election - round 2
by Rosette, Kristina April 7, 2014

April 7, 2014

All, I've attached the email I received from Glen with the Round 1 ballot results. (Apologies for the delay. I've been offline since 5 PM EDT on Friday.) I've authorized her to proceed with Round 2 pursuant to the timing we'd agreed on in Singapore and to use the same ballot text. However, please let me know as soon as possible if you'd (a) prefer different ballot text (and, if so, what text you propose); and (b) like a cover note to be sent with the ballots (and, if so, what cover note you propose). Many thanks. Kristina From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 8:05 AM To: William Drake Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] trying to get unstuck on the Board-election process thanks Bill, let me pivot to the leaders of the CSG on this list - i think Bill's reasoning is sound, this is for us to sort out. CSG leaders, please engage soon - these decisions bear on the nomination process for the reasons already discussed. i've already telegraphed my support for releasing the Councilors since i suggested the idea. since i'm a Councilor i'm a little uncomfortable lobbying too much at this point. could we try to have a direction sorted out by the end of the day Monday (UTC) so that candidates know the framework we'll be working under? i picked that day because we're in a weekend, but don't want this to linger too long so we can still hit Glen's proposed schedule. i'll kick the conversation off by coming up with a draft set of options (feel free to edit): - Candidates: - one per SG - open field - Councilors released: - immediately - after first round - after second round - never mikey On Mar 8, 2014, at 5:28 AM, William Drake <william.drake(a)uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch>> wrote: Hi Mikey On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)haven2.com<mailto:mike@haven2.com>> wrote: one option we might consider is reducing the elapsed time for rounds of voting so we could squeeze in a third round before the Council meeting. there's this "Internet" thing that might help us get that done. if people are game, Glen and i can come up with a slightly tighter 3-round voting schedule and push it back to you all for approval. Hopefully not necessary but maybe advisable number of candidates a key puzzler, this. i couldn't track down documentation that enforces a "one per SG" rule, so i'm interested in hearing more. i'd observe that a "one per SG" approach does seem to put us on a course toward deadlock, but the "open-field" approach introduces a dilemma - if an SG puts up more than one candidate, they risk splitting their vote and "losing" to an SG that doesn't. I don't recall that there is such documentation and agree a "one per SG" approach would seem to put us on a course toward deadlock, especially given that NCSG no longer has board appointed Councilors. Of course, since they're not formally directed I suppose some NCSG Councilor could still decide to vote against a NCSG candidate, but if the fate of the process hinges entirely on that prospect it's a mighty biased system. i can only speak for my constituency here, but the way the ISPCP is chartered i'm constrained to vote based on "the interests and views of my constituency." Bill, your comment about Councillors being fully empowered as electors right from the start raises a topic which goes on the "really interesting, but not enough time to discuss/change this time around" pile for me. If there's direction just at the constituency level we could at least theoretically have someone get to 8 votes. If there's one per and direction at the CSG level what's the scenario for getting to 8? however one "tie breaking" strategy would be to go through a couple of rounds of voting and, if it's still deadlocked "release" the Councilors to be independent electors. that would put pressure on constituencies to be a bit more engaged in their work, as otherwise the job gets handed to Councillors. NC councilors are released now. If a third round looming disaster is what would be needed to achieve parity ok, that's for you guys to sort out. Best, Bill PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com<http://www.haven2.com>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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